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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

People should probably stop giving Bryan Fuller jobs, because I really fail to see the value he provides on top of his unwillingness to ever finish what he starts.

I dunno how you can spend 10 million per episode of a single season of a tv show then throw a temper tantrum and quit a project when the production reasonably asks you to stop spending so much goddamn money on a low rated, middlingly acclaimed tv show.

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Lick! The! Whisk! posted:

I really fail to see the value he provides

Pushing Daisies is one of the greatest shows ever made, and I'm still sad the writers' strike hosed it over. It was probably his most popular show that he stayed on (unless I'm remembering wrong, it had pretty drat good ratings for the first season) but everyone was kind of hosed over by the '08 strike.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

esperterra posted:

Pushing Daisies is one of the greatest shows ever made, and I'm still sad the writers' strike hosed it over. It was probably his most popular show that he stayed on (unless I'm remembering wrong, it had pretty drat good ratings for the first season) but everyone was kind of hosed over by the '08 strike.

I'm like 90% sure it got renewed BECAUSE of the strike, because they needed more scripted television and had none in development for obvious reasons.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




They had nine episodes for S1 written before the strike even started. Fuller then retooled the ninth to be a season finale rather than do the full season one order iirc. Then like many shows when it came back after the strike, it struggled in ratings and got canned.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

It was down to 7 millionish viewers by the season finale. Dunno what the 18-49 share on that was, but it was probably mediocre at best. I sincerely doubt the show would've gotten renewed sans strike especially considering it lost half of its viewers from the premiere in two months

I mean we don't know, but every indication looks otherwise

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Did all that $10 million go to paying Ian McDhane? Because the 4 or 5 episodes I saw didn't look anywhere near that price tag.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Lick! The! Whisk! posted:

It was down to 7 millionish viewers by the season finale. Dunno what the 18-49 share on that was, but it was probably mediocre at best. I sincerely doubt the show would've gotten renewed sans strike especially considering it lost half of its viewers from the premiere in two months

I mean we don't know, but every indication looks otherwise

Then please refer to

esperterra posted:

(unless I'm remembering wrong, it had pretty drat good ratings for the first season)

Either way, of Fuller's shows it was fairly popular and 100% a critical darling. I personally think it's safe to assume it would have gotten a third season, sans writer's strike, but who knows beyond that. The show may have been a diff beast entirely if season one wasn't cut short, anyway.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Josh Lyman posted:

Matt Lauer getting $25m/year is an absolute failure of modern business practices. He ABSOLUTELY does not add that much value to the Today Show.

You dont sell ads, your opinion is null and void.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Vikings is back and more violent than ever.

Ivar & Pals raid a church in York, murder drat near everyone, pour molten gold down a priests throat while he’s held down, and then drag his corpse all over the place while it’s tied to a horse.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




gently caress yes Vikings.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

The English seriously have to stop going to church during viking invasions

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Isn't that how it usually went down, though? Vikings would raid during church services, then later the Saxons/etc would attack the vikings during their weekly bath day.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Right, so why continue doing it when you know the Vikings just murdered king aelle and ecbert and have no signs of stopping.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Religion's a helluva drug I guess.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
God's gotcha back bro. :rolleyes:

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
I mean Jesus did win by TKO in the end, they all basically converted and their way of life died.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mulva posted:

I mean Jesus did win by TKO in the end, they all basically converted and their way of life died.

Yeah but they upgraded to atheism and socialism, got rich and sexy, sold cheap furniture to the world. Became everyones friend.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I gotta say I never saw the point of desecrating a corpse, it’s the equivalent to hitting a bush with a stick, doesn’t actually do anything

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Party Plane Jones posted:

Going north of 10 million per episode is absurd; American Gods is good but not approaching the highest cost per episode of television on the planet (13 million) good.

Is Game of Thrones the most expensive?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Only because Emelia Clarke and Jon Snow have HBO by the balls and can command any salary they want

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Snak posted:

There's no Longmire thread, right? S6e8: fuckin lol how did they hold off introducing Richie until almost the end of the season?! Meg clearly has a type, and the scene of Ferg first meeting him is gold.

I swear to god if Nighthorse turns out to actually be a villain, I will disown the show.
This season took everything I didn't like about last one and dialed it up to 11. I do like that someone slapping a label with your name on it on some drugs is enough to get you charged in this universe. My favorite part was when Walt admitted to Ferg that he's a terrible detective/cop but then he just kept on doing what he was doing.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Wheat Loaf posted:

Is Game of Thrones the most expensive?

GOT is around 10 million an episode; The Crown on Netflix had a 130m budget over 10 episodes.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Vegetable posted:

I gotta say I never saw the point of desecrating a corpse, it’s the equivalent to hitting a bush with a stick, doesn’t actually do anything

It makes the corpse's friends real mad.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Party Plane Jones posted:

GOT is around 10 million an episode; The Crown on Netflix had a 130m budget over 10 episodes.
I have no idea where all that money was spent. For a pretty good show, The Crown never looks very good.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Did everyone give up on Vikings or something?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mu Zeta posted:

The English seriously have to stop going to church during viking invasions

I think historically it was usually monasteries, wasn't it? Monks kinda live there 24/7.

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost
I watched to Rockefeller tree lighting on NBC last night for a little bit with my wife. Glad they stole all the roofies/anxiolytics/uppers/whatever from Lauer's sex dungeon to give to the rest of the Today show hosts. That or they are true professionals.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Rocksicles posted:

You dont sell ads, your opinion is null and void.
If Matt Lauer were replaced with someone cheaper, how much do you think it would actually affect ratings? Morning shows are total fluff bullshit. Anyone who has good chemistry with the other hosts can do it.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

HorseRenoir posted:

no one in America makes animated dramas for adults.

Netflix did several just this year and is actually budgeting for even more in the future because Castlevania and Neo Yokio performed well.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Guy Mann posted:

Neo Yokio performed well.

I honestly don't know how to feel about that.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

DivisionPost posted:

I honestly don't know how to feel about that.

https://twitter.com/Suicidal_Smoker/status/911402416343441408

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

precision posted:

okay yeah No Activity is fuckin' brilliant already and JK Simmons hasn't even shown up. The bit with Mantzoukas and Plemens debating the effectiveness of doing "crazy guy" was inspired.

You have to get All Access to watch it? gently caress.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Norwegian Rudo posted:

My impression is that Barry is more the production guy on this one. Neil LaBute is the creator and main creative guy. Kind of funny that he is doing a cheapo Canadian sci-fi show as he is mostly known as a super artsy theater writer.

Neil Labute? Ha, that dude haaaaates women, to a spectacular degree

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬




Pft that’s the new ‘less chocolate than the old one’ design. I deserve better.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
If you’re in the UK you can just get one of those Christmas branded big-rear end tubes of Jaffa Cakes instead. Way better than Toblerone

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

I mean, I believe it. I know how that Giant Toblerone bit went viral, it had to be at least somewhat successful. I’m just...whatever interest I had in it gave way to apathy long enough; it’s just obnoxiously hip. If it was cancelled, I wouldn’t bat an eye. But I’m weirdly glad it exists.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

It was just a very weird and relaxed short show.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Escobarbarian posted:

If you’re in the UK you can just get one of those Christmas branded big-rear end tubes of Jaffa Cakes instead. Way better than Toblerone

I still remember the disappointment when I found out the tube was just full of the normal sized packs.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

EL BROMANCE posted:

I still remember the disappointment when I found out the tube was just full of the normal sized packs.

Same :(

Neo Yokio was good and I would absolutely watch more. I didn’t really see it as very hipstery, despite having all the elements for it - it came off as pretty sincere about what it was doing to me.

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

InsensitiveSeaBass posted:

I watched to Rockefeller tree lighting on NBC last night for a little bit with my wife. Glad they stole all the roofies/anxiolytics/uppers/whatever from Lauer's sex dungeon to give to the rest of the Today show hosts. That or they are true professionals.
Anyone hosting at that level can keep their cool.

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