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ceaselessfuture posted:A question for you math nerds out there: If you're above the soft cap with buffs with both the dagger and the sword, then the dagger is worth at least 200 more ATK, starting at just above the cap. If you're below the soft cap with buffs with both the dagger and the sword, then the dagger is worth at most 51 more ATK at just below the cap. If you're below the soft cap with the dagger and above it with the sword, it gets a little complicated but the dagger is worth somewhere between those two values.
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FFVIII 200 CM clear entirely thanks to Squall Elephant Ambush posted:I need help with faster and more reliable Bismarck clears. You need a more greedy setup if you want to go fast. You have a defensive RW, a full healer and Edge who is basically a support with that damage output. Remember the faster you clear the less damage you'll take and less healing you'll need. Also your magical options are stronger than just Lightning but she should work too. -Shantotto's USB is incredible so that's the easy way out. -Ashe is great and helps with your healing. Palom's BSB is secretly super strong. a Desch is fine too. -Ensure that Lightning has Thunder God's Might as RM if you're entrusting her, SBs have long rear end cast times and fast entrust strats aren't viable without fastcast+. -Vanille is fine. Just use Curada and the BSB entry, don't use CMD1 which is garbage. LD Y'shtola is way better though. Dual cast those Curadas all day. Even better is using Yuna as a healer if you decide to use mages since her BSB buffs the team further. Have Yuna use Curada.
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bilperkins2 posted:The one that got furthest: What skills and RM's do you have on everyone? It seems like you don't have any support. I had a pretty similar set up to you but instead of a second white mage with burst, I had onion knight with his burst and curada and attack breakdown on him. Cid raines also just had wrath and magic breakdown to use as needed. Everyone had damage boosting materia except my healer and onion knight who had mako might and dr mog. Protectga can also work instead of attack breakdown, but you do need some physical mitigation to survive energy bomber. Magic breakdown is also pretty much a necessity. You might also be focusing too much on keeping rinoa alive. If you have any other single target mage bursts, those might be better than Rapha. Just not having stuff hit rinoa should be sufficient unless you don't have any other mage dps. OK can provide the other faithga stack. In my successful attempt I only had to target rinoa with a heal maybe like one time and I never even bothered with shell or regen. With cid raines, edea, and rapha, you should be able to put out enough dps to beat him before or at least soon after rinoa dies. If rinoa dies it's not the end of the fight right away. You even have a last stand going for you with Relm BSB if she nukes you. And you can still get mastery on the fight. FruitPunchSamurai fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Keeping Adel debuffed is massively important to make the incoming damage reasonable. If you have Vaan BSB this is basically the perfect place for it. Otherwise you just want to get as much damage as you can because if you try to go with turtle tactics you will not win.
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bilperkins2 posted:I for some reason can't beat Adel in CT. I've tried a few party combinations: Just taking a quick look at what you have I'd maybe try these: Magic: Raines w/BSB memento mori and a breakdown Edea w/BSB memento mori +? Rapha w/BSB breakdown +? Tyro w/USB RW wall and breakdowns Relm w/BSB heal/shell Physical: Tidus w/USB, BSB2 Minifilia w/SSB and breakdowns Tyro w/USB, off-heal or breakdowns Eiko w/BSB Another dps/breakdown? Echoing what others have said, stacking the debuffs was very important.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I need help with faster and more reliable Bismarck clears. This is more theoretical from me since I can pretty consistently clear it sub 30, but I have Shantotto CSB and USB. 1st, can you clarify, Garnet BSB 1 or 2? The imperil lightning and atk/mag buff one is decent (not great though), and since she just got Bard 5 access, she could really make this team with the Allegro con Moto ability. If you have 2, I'd suggest trying another hastega, like Tyro USB3, stacking the two and using Tyro as a Curada spammer. Give that a shot with maybe Desch and Ashe. Anyway, feel free to experiment and fail a lot with all of those DPS characters, at least there's no penalty. You have quite a few options.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:FFVIII 200 CM clear entirely thanks to Squall All of your suggestions slowed me down lol  If I give Lightning the TG Mode RM then she loses the 30% Sword damage RM and she can never hit 99999 on the OSB even after enLightning. It starts out at like 64K and then goes up to 80K tops after a few uses. The highest ATK I can get with my current gear is 587 which doesn't quite get me there with Shout and OK BSB. She has Cloud USB sword fully Rosetta'd, an 8* Lulu LMR as her armor (lol) for extra ATK, and the Nemesis 35 ATK accessory. This also means she has no water resist. That's not a huge deal because Y'shtola is pulling her weight better than Vanille. I really want to go back to +Sword damage RM and +lightning gear to hit 99999 but like you said that trades off for the speed of TG Mode early in the fight. Edge is in a similar boat. I need him to build meter fast to always have a Last Stand on deck but that means he can't use his ninja ability damage RM. With the ninja boost RM he does 9999 with every Swift Bolt but he builds meter more slowly even after ability buffs. With Ace Striker he only hits for 6500-7000. Am I just doing something hilariously wrong here? Is my stat and damage math off? Am I just an idiot using a sub-optimal strat? All I do is build meter with Lightning, Ramza, and OK. OK leads off with BSB and Ramza Wraths with Battleforged into Shout, then they both Wrath a bar and give them to Lightning. Then they Wrath a bar each and reset OK BSB and Shout. Y'shtola sometimes needs an extra bar here and there but it's usually not a big deal as long as Bismarck doesn't spam Savage Breach Blast. Edge spams Swift Bolt and pops Last Stand when needed. Oh yeah and he also calls Wall at the beginning and in the middle and calls Enkidu for an extra heal when needed. iamsosmrt posted:This is more theoretical from me since I can pretty consistently clear it sub 30, but I have Shantotto CSB and USB. Garnet's BSB is the summon one. It doesn't seem too good but I listed it because you guys know better than me about what's good. The only thing holding me back from trying mages is the fact that I need to max hone the witch lightning ability and I'm not sure I want to spend the orbs right before the FFTA banner. I also have ninja abilities I need to hone. I also don't think it would be a whole lot faster. I use a similar team for Fenrir with Edea BSB for dps and the fastest time I can get with that team is 42 seconds. I don't think using up all those hones for a similar result is worth it if I can just tune my current physical team to get a consistent time around 45 seconds. That's all I really want. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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You don't really need to hone hell thunder, just use Shantotto's burst instead of her ultra. Or don't use Shantotto at all, you have plenty of other mage options.
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Man I’m extra hyped for FFTA because it’s also the first banner in a long time where I have zero dupes on it. Probably gonna do up to two, maybe three pulls on it. I have Shout and Tailwind for Ramza so literally anything else for him would be awesome.
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It's sort of a weird event for me because I enjoyed the heck out of FFTA but never cared much for FFT. So getting something for Marche or Montblanc would be pretty awesome while anyone else I'd just be kinda meh about. Although I do have Gaff's SSB and BSB so continuing to have a complete rear end in a top hat knight would be cool I guess.
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Elephant Ambush posted:All of your suggestions slowed me down lol Just try Ashe and Desch with Yuna, OK and a Bard 5/ACM and see what happens, ok?
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jebeebus posted:Man I’m extra hyped for FFTA because it’s also the first banner in a long time where I have zero dupes on it. Probably gonna do up to two, maybe three pulls on it. I have Shout and Tailwind for Ramza so literally anything else for him would be awesome. I have 400 mythril saved up and I'm going loving ham on this poo poo if I have to. I mostly want Ramza LMR and Shout 2: Electric Boogaloo but that Marche USB looks incredible as well and I'll take anything for Montblanc because he's a Moogle. Meliadoul BSB would be alright because I'm short on earth stuff and I'm missing a couple Agrias relics. I think her LMR is on this banner too so I'd love to have that since she was my first LD and it's kinda meh and her LMR would make it a lot better. iamsosmrt posted:Just try Ashe and Desch with Yuna, OK and a Bard 5/ACM and see what happens, ok? Yeah I'll try that tomorrow. I tweaked my Lightning team and got a couple 45-ish second clears with good RNG. I'm happy for now but I'd like to see what a mage team can do. My only bard with ACM is Edward. I also have Papalymo SSB which does the same thing but better so I'll probably use him instead. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Despite Desch being Desch, he's got a really awesome BSB. He self-buffs and the C1 cycles quickcast just like Raines. He won't be quite on the same level since he doesn't self buff nearly as much, but for a lightning weak fight he will absolutely do good work.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I have 400 mythril saved up and I'm going loving ham on this poo poo if I have to. I mostly want Ramza LMR and Shout 2: Electric Boogaloo but that Marche USB looks incredible as well and I'll take anything for Montblanc because he's a Moogle. Meliadoul BSB would be alright because I'm short on earth stuff and I'm missing a couple Agrias relics. I think her LMR is on this banner too so I'd love to have that since she was my first LD and it's kinda meh and her LMR would make it a lot better. I’m nearing 400 as well. Ramza’s LMR would be amazing, and I’m also hoping for USB so I won’t have to try again on FFT-2. But I’m gonna cap myself at three pulls max since the next FFT isn’t too far away. Of course I say this but we’ll see if my finger will actually listen to me.
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Shoenin posted:no more 5 mythril boooooooooooo That's a bummer but tbh I'm kind of okay with that, right now doing 20 magicites a month feels too much like a mandatory thing and I rarely ever actually *want* to do that many, especially since I forget about the mission until the end of the month.
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Im not okay with that I need the blue rocks <<
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Electric Phantasm posted:So the daily missions are going away again in JP Sounds like all Cid Missions are going away. Not sure what they'll replace it with, if anything. Probably something tied to the new Story Mode.
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They're keeping some existing CM; the ones tied to the Torments, for instance, are explicitly mentioned (the "re-featured limited" ones). Maybe only until they figure out how to rig them into the new system, but still.
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I just want everyone to know that I beat Apocalpyse Yojimbo with my only healing being a Penelo USB RW because Y'shtola got Silenced (THROUGH MAJOR RESIST) and I just kept on pushing buttons until I eventually killed him. Squall + Noctis is such a goddamn dream team.
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Yojimbo and his dog are dumb. I just ended up putting everyone in the front row because the dog laughs at silence resist accessories if you put anyone in the back row. That AoE is rough, and I’m not sure if I want to tackle the Apoc version. At least beating up the new Torment made me feel better.  With setups and breakdowns, Squall and Ayame didn’t even need to use their third bars. In fact, Squall pretty much took the dragon down from slightly below half health with a Cloud RW/EnIced BSB that was doing 46k a hit.
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Also I wanna say new Snowspell Strike is sick and I was doing 8k per hit on U++ Seymour with his Protect still up. I love.
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So I unlocked magicites 26 hours ago and I'm currently 4/6 complete. This is a ton of fun and I'm loving this poo poo. Wanted to brag about my Fenrir run because it was easily the sketchiest:  Lineup: OK - BSB - Entrust duty Raines - BSB - wrath/MM Iris - SSB/BSB/LMR Matoya - BSB - R2 C.Blizz/Protect Rinoa - BSB - R3 C.Blizz/Icicle Shot (lol) First attempt, Raines doing 4x1k damage, Matoya bsb entering for 10x2k and cmd1 for 4x3k, Rinoa entry for 8x4k, cmd1 4x5k. While enIced, Rinoa hit three CBs for 4x7k, but mostly I was doing very questionable damage. Only reason I won was because of entrusted Rinoa BSB spam at the end. Just goes to show not to ignore garbo relics if you really need a specific element!
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Hey congratulations! I hope these stay as fun for you as long as possible.
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Elephant Ambush posted:All of your suggestions slowed me down lol The goal is not to do OSB casts that cap damage but have a higher and faster overall damage output. Every hit you cap is wasted damage. Why are you not using your +lit gear you said you have? You're getting a ton of atk from shout and vof.
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 And JP Crystal tower is done. Gotta say it shouldn't surprise me but Squall and Terror Burnitmore are a horrifying combination if you just need to do a lot of damage quickly. Emperor didn't even have the time to get off one of his 99k Curajas. 
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I've been sitting on 300 mythril all month waiting for the tactics banner tonight and I am dying right now why can't it be 7pm already? i want to roll... 
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Mirthless posted:I've been sitting on 300 mythril all month waiting for the tactics banner tonight and I am dying right now We're all with you, man.
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I'm looking forward to Hydra, Bismarck, and Golem once I finally clear out my nightmares because Earth, Lightning, and Wind are easily my most stacked elements. I also got a pretty sizable collection of Holy and Dark stuff... but I'm pretty lacking in Fire, Water, and Ice. Earth: Maria (BSB) Dorgann (BSB/SSB, Earth Imperil) Bartz (BSB2/BSB3) Ingus (BSB, SSB2) Ward (BSB) Tifa (BSB, SSB) Lightning: Garnet (BSB1/BSB2/SSB, Lightning Imperil) Lightning (OSB/SSB2) Kain (BSB) Ashe (BSB) Wind: Zidane (USB/BSB, Fully Legend Dived, Wind Imperil) Luneth (BSB) Fang (BSB1/SSB) Ricard (BSB) Cloud (OSB) Fire: Locke (BSB/SSB1/SSB2, Imperil Fire) Steiner (BSB1) Yda (BSB) Elena (SSB) Vincent (SSB, LMR) Marach (SSB) Water: Tidus (BSB1, OSB) Rikku (BSB, SSB, Imperil Water) Paine (SSB1, SSB2) Bartz (BSB2, BSB3) Ice: Edea (USB, SSB1, SSB2) Laguna (SSB2, Imperil Ice) Squall (OSB) Josef (Unique/SSB) Holy: Edward (BSB/SSB, Imperil Holy) Agrias (OSB/SSB) Pencil (BSB2/SSB) WoL (BSB) Minfilia (USB/BSB/SSB) Curilla (BSB/SSB) CoD (BSB) Honorable Mention: Angeal (SSB) Dark: Sephiroth (USB) Edea (USB/SSB1/SSB2, Imperil Dark) Rufus (SSB, Imperil Dark) Gaffgarion (BSB/SSB) Gabranth (Unique)
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You might have some problems with Golem. He really doesn't favor physical teams. He's currently the only one of the first six magicites I have left to beat, and my physical wind tech is pretty good with Zack CSB/BSB, Cloud BSB2/OSB, and CidVII BSB/SSB. Aside from a 30k damage bubble he puts out every so often, he also uses protect. This means if you want to run physical you have to also make room for a dispel. Most people recommend using ninjas and mages for dps depending on what you have.
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KataraniSword posted:Sounds like all Cid Missions are going away. Oh wow, thats poo poo. I like the weekly Cid Missions. I might quit when that time comes here and if its not replaced by something similar.
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Well this is kinda lame... if only I had finished Nightmare just one day earlier this month lol. But more importantly... 6 hours to go!!!
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Meltdown Nightmare cleared!  Kaiser Dragon almost tried to pretend to be dangerous but I melted (heh) through him without much issue. That just leaves 2: Affliction Break and Valigarmanda.
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jebeebus posted:Well this is kinda lame... if only I had finished Nightmare just one day earlier this month lol. No stamina potions left? Or Mythril refresh your stamina. You'll lose one but get three, so better than nothing.
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Attestant posted:No stamina potions left? I'm guessing the problem is running out of keystones.
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Schwartzcough posted:I'm guessing the problem is running out of keystones. Oh yeah. I kinda keep forgetting those are a thing, because I let them pile up real high once, and haven't really gone below 10 since.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:never would i have thought losing the weekly magicite missions would be the breaking point for anyone Not those, I mean the story ones.
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Kawalimus posted:Not those, I mean the story ones. You can still challenge yourself by doing any fight with a full synergy team. The rewards for CMs aren't usually spectacular anyway.
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