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You could also probably just cut the bottom out and replace the whole piece with new project pine or something. Make it sound like such a pain in the rear end they don't make you do it.
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Combining the best suggestions I'd say, sand high spots down flush, fill any lows with putty, and cover with either a woodgrain laminate sheet, or real veneer for something nicer. Wood veneer would need finishing with oil or varnish.
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Nov 29, 2017 19:05
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Huxley posted:Make it sound like such a pain in the rear end they don't make you do it. DingDingDing.
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Nov 29, 2017 19:55
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I'm surprised it rotted so bad. When I forget about a bag of potatoes they just shrivel up and start growing alien tentacles. Call in a contractor and have them quote it, then show the owner the massive quote and they'll accept a cheap and easy solution without much fuss.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:09
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I pulled the trigger on my first new plane: the Veritas Router Plane with optional fence. Mmmm Here's to the nicest tool I've ever owned.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:33
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Sweet, just scored a Stanley 45 with a full #1 and #2 box of cutters for $110. Problem solved.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:04
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I've not bought any tools, but I did make one:  This is kind of the first real woodworking thing I've made, plywood and screws doesn't count. Not sure what to make next, probably a box but I think I need a couple of proper chisels, the mortice was a right pain in the arse.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:29
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You cut a through mortise for that mallet without using any chisels?  My mallet was done the lazy way -- three layers of 4/4 boards sandwiched together, with the middle layer being two separate boards with a gap in the middle where the handle goes.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:44
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No no, I have chisels but they're not great, most woodworking I've seen use chisels with beveled edges, mine are halfway between that and straight sided mortice chisels, neither one nor t'other
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Nov 29, 2017 22:50
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I have a bunch of power tools, but the only woodworking hand tools I have are a small saw and some files. If I am going to have one inexpensive (less than $50) hand plane around, what should I look for?
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Nov 29, 2017 22:54
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I need to drill a self-trapping screw in an enclosed space and there's not enough room to angle the drill up, is there any attachment that'll screw perpendicular with gears or something?
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Nov 29, 2017 22:58
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I need to drill a self-trapping screw in an enclosed space and there's not enough room to angle the drill up, is there any attachment that'll screw perpendicular with gears or something? Yep. https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Right-Angle-Drill-Adapter-DWARA50/203867866 
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Nov 29, 2017 23:02
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I need to drill a self-trapping screw in an enclosed space and there's not enough room to angle the drill up, is there any attachment that'll screw perpendicular with gears or something? You can put a driver bit in a 1/4 inch socket on a ratchet if it's just a one off job.
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PBCrunch posted:I have a bunch of power tools, but the only woodworking hand tools I have are a small saw and some files. If I am going to have one inexpensive (less than $50) hand plane around, what should I look for? A stanley number 5 and a little block plane are the classic answer.
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PBCrunch posted:I have a bunch of power tools, but the only woodworking hand tools I have are a small saw and some files. If I am going to have one inexpensive (less than $50) hand plane around, what should I look for? What do you want to do with it? If you just want a plane to learn and play around with, yeah Stanley No 5 is the way to go. You can find pre-WW2 models in good shape on eBay for under $50 easy if you're patient. If you want a plane to clean up your machine work, you may want a smoothing plane (No 3 or 4), or there's loads of types of joinery planes for cleaning up your joints. Toolmaking winter continues. Last weekend I made a new wedge for my rabbet plane out of an apple branch from my friend's back yard. This was my first time working from a log. It was pretty fun, but the workholding was real hard to arrange, lots of shims and clamps jamming it against my bench hook. It was at 10% MC after sitting for a few months.  And I made a marking gauge over the past two evenings. It's pretty ugly, especially the wedge, but it functions. I haven't had a chance to really use it yet. There's another style where the wedge goes perpendicular to the beam. I'd like to try that style, since it looks easier to use one-handed, but I didn't want to mortise all the way through the long direction of the fence.  cakesmith handyman posted:I've not bought any tools, but I did make one: This is pretty high up on my todo list. ColdPie fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Anybody have Opinions on crib hardware? Googling tends to give me complete kits, with all the rail hardware and etc, which I don't need. The rest is turded up by replacement parts for factory cribs, and a bunch of articles about how some specific kind of crib is a baby guillotine in waiting, or something. The main/only source for parts is this place whose site is dogshit with tiny photos and few prices. I need whatever brackets sit between the two legs of the thing, and the gate that raises and lowers. Old forum threads indicate Rockler used to sell plans and hardware but this no longer appears to be the case. It's really surprising how difficult this is becoming.
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You're trying to build a drop side crib? You're probably having trouble finding products because they were banned in 2011 for killing babies.
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Yeah, it's come up a few times but cribs are regulated more than I expected. https://onsafety.cpsc.gov/blog/2011/06/14/the-new-crib-standard-questions-and-answers/ has the details I think.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:03
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Slat width/spacing is a big change in the past 10 years of cribs as well. You can only buy wide, flat slats (as opposed to straight dowel or turned) and they're never more than about three finger-widths apart.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:48
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Building a crib was one of those things I dreamed about doing whenever I finally had a baby on the way, but I have convinced myself that there is no way I'm doing that. Cribs are super regulated, and if anything ever happened to my baby in the crib I made, I would never stop blaming myself for it.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:56
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For me it wasn't so much the regulations, that swayed me away, because I can certainly build something sturdy and to spec. It was the fact that a crib is a pretty short live piece of furniture, only in use for a few years, maybe a dozen with multiple children then put away in storage. I focused my efforts on building a chest of drawers that doubles as a change table, I put a nice message inside and hope she'll be able to use it for many years.
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Meow Meow Meow posted:For me it wasn't so much the regulations, that swayed me away, because I can certainly build something sturdy and to spec. It was the fact that a crib is a pretty short live piece of furniture, only in use for a few years, maybe a dozen with multiple children then put away in storage. I focused my efforts on building a chest of drawers that doubles as a change table, I put a nice message inside and hope she'll be able to use it for many years. This. We have a baby on the way in January. Most of my recent efforts have been around remodeling her nursery, but I'm about to start on a book case for her room. I decided it made a lot more sense to build stuff I know she'll use for many years than just a few.
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Dunno if I think cribs have to be shortlived, my kids used the same one I did, and my older sister used it before me. No fancy baby killing features on it though.
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You know that cardboard box your portable table saw came in? Well, learn one weird tip a stay at home woodworker figured out about cribs. Government regulators hate him!
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Mr. Mambold posted:You know that cardboard box your portable table saw came in? Well, learn one weird tip a stay at home woodworker figured out about cribs. Government regulators hate him! You joke, but...
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Well hell.
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I don't personally see anything wrong with building a crib if you posess the ability to do some research, but in the end I can't imagine building furniture for an infant anyways. You're probably barely sane at that point from trying to keep a tiny person alive and don't need to be worrying about woodworking. Make them stuff when they're 2-3+ and might care about it and remember it. It's way more rewarding and much less worrying. I love seeing my neice using the kitchen helper(s) and toybox I made. Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Yeah suck it marvel, we had mother boxes way before you did.
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I remember someone making a crib that when the kid grew out of it the long sides became the ends of a proper bed.
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cakesmith handyman posted:I remember someone making a crib that when the kid grew out of it the long sides became the ends of a proper bed. I bought one that does just that. Except it's just a head board. It had adjustable height for the crib mattress too. It also came with a toddler bed front for three different sizes of bed.
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So how do cribs work these days, then? The sides don't move at all? That's not really a viable option for this project. I make custom bondage and fetish furniture, this "crib" will contain a full size mattress and the occupant hasn't been an infant for quite some time
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Hahahaha, I have nothing to add but that inquiry took an amazing turn.
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Four totally static sides with wide slats and narrow gaps held together with long hex bolts and barrel nuts. Structurally, if it were me building a baby fetish crib, I would be designing the entry more along the lines of "topless dog crate" than baby crib. At that size having a swing down side could still be dangerous (because the swinging part will weigh 100 pounds and absolutely crush some fingers). Plus hardware will be cheaper. Unless the form of the thing is hyper important to the client (ie, it HAS to look like their childhood crib or whatever), in which I would get some liability waiver in writing. I would still situate the swing-down on the foot edge of the bed for weight concerns, though you can probably get away with dowel for rails. I hope you're building it on site haha.
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cakesmith handyman posted:I remember someone making a crib that when the kid grew out of it the long sides became the ends of a proper bed. That was me, my brother and I made it for our sister and her first kid six or seven years ago. The high back of the crib is the headboard and the low front is the foot board. It was also a toddler bed that had a half side rail that replaced the front of the crib. Still have the plans if anyone wants them.
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Javid posted:So how do cribs work these days, then? The sides don't move at all? That's not really a viable option for this project. I ... need to see pictures.
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Plot twist.
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Tres Burritos posted:I ... need to see pictures. In which your mattress is on the floor, your gate isn't liable to kill anybody, your hardware costs $20 and your materials quote on 1" dowel causes your client to lower the crib's height by half.  You can drill straight through your framing lumber for your dowel, which I've done making a safety rail over some stairs. You also would need to account for clearance on the latch side. Anyway, I'm done working for the day and can't leave for another half hour if anyone wants me to rough sketch some more fetish gear.
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Tres Burritos posted:I ... need to see pictures.   She also ordered one of our "standard" bed, which looks like so:  She wants the drop side, so I'm going to exhaust every option on that, but if it's just impossible, it'll probably have to be a gate like on our under-bed cage line:  Huxley posted:In which your mattress is on the floor, your gate isn't liable to kill anybody, your hardware costs $20 and your materials quote on 1" dowel causes your client to lower the crib's height by half. No poo poo, the dowels alone are 200% of the cost of the entire rest of the lumber for this, so far.
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Look at me pitching my hobbyist level poo poo at a professional. I would still try and find a way not to let that gate go all the way to the floor.
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Javid posted:No poo poo, the dowels alone are 200% of the cost of the entire rest of the lumber for this, so far. I've seen dowel-cutting jigs that didn't look too complicated; if you need a lot of dowels I don't think it's out of the question to consider cutting them yourself rather than buying them off the shelf. If I recall correctly, one of the jigs was basically drilling an angled hole through some 1/8" or 1/4" sheet metal, which made an edge that was sharp enough to cut wood. Mount a stick of wood on a drill, set the end in the hole, turn the drill on, and press the wood through the hole.
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