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paid money to post posted:I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there? they're called trackballs
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 06:16 |
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Josh Lyman posted:If you're gaming with a DPI above 800, you're doing it wrong. I don't have time to spend 5 minutes moving my mouse from one side of the screen to the other. If you're at 1440p; you need a DPI of around 1600 otherwise moving the mouse cursor is painfully slow. People were using 400-800 DPI in the days of 1200x1024 monitors, it stands to reason DPI would need to increase proportionately to screen resolution.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 06:19 |
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Josh Lyman posted:If you're gaming with a DPI above 800, you're doing it wrong. ufarn fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Trying to "shame" someone for the mouse DPI they prefer in desktop usage is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in this thread yet, wowee
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 20:03 |
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i've been using 5100 dpi for years, am i gonna die
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:28 |
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Yes, but probably not anytime in the near future.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 21:33 |
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Trying to "shame" someone for the mouse DPI they prefer in desktop usage is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in this thread yet, wowee I use 1600 dpi for desktop use with 1440p 27" monitors.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 22:39 |
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The Lord Bude posted:I don't have time to spend 5 minutes moving my mouse from one side of the screen to the other. If you're at 1440p; you need a DPI of around 1600 otherwise moving the mouse cursor is painfully slow. People were using 400-800 DPI in the days of 1200x1024 monitors, it stands to reason DPI would need to increase proportionately to screen resolution. I use 800 on a 1440p screen and it's perfectly fine, 1600 would be insanely twitchy. It's almost like different people like different settings
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 23:01 |
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Josh Lyman posted:I use 1600 dpi for desktop use with 1440p 27" monitors.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 23:27 |
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I have the same monitor setup but use 700 DPI, ergo I'm entitled to order you around like a serf
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 01:26 |
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I use 6400 DPI at 720p. I move my cursor by blowing on my mouse.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 04:06 |
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Disable surface tuning in the Logitech settings if you have it enabled I messed around with the surface tuning but nothing seemed to make a difference, but I found that turning the polling rate down from 1,000 to 500 stopped the jitteryness (is that a windows thing?) my mouse is set at 1150 dpi because that's what my last one was at and I don't wan't to redo the equation to get my counter strike in game sensitivity back to exactly what i'm used to, if I decide to go get re addicted to that
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 04:36 |
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my mouse dpi is whatever it is after i adjusted the buttons and sliders until it felt right
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 06:37 |
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Still not getting anywhere with Logitech support fuckers to replace my duff G603. So loving annoying, I actually like the mouse but it broke within a few days of getting it and needs replacing. Bought September, broke October. consumer law in the UK is fairly strong but there's no point taking action on a £50 device.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 12:13 |
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knox_harrington posted:Still not getting anywhere with Logitech support fuckers to replace my duff G603. So loving annoying, I actually like the mouse but it broke within a few days of getting it and needs replacing. Bought September, broke October. Shouldn’t you be able to get a refund from the store?
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 12:41 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Shouldn’t you be able to get a refund from the store? Well yes, but I bought it straight from Logitech as I get a discount, and they are not playing ball.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 13:43 |
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knox_harrington posted:Well yes, but I bought it straight from Logitech as I get a discount, and they are not playing ball. And this is where you stuffed up. If you live in a civilized country with consumer protection laws, don't buy things directly from US companies or US based retailers.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 16:08 |
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knox_harrington posted:Well yes, but I bought it straight from Logitech as I get a discount, and they are not playing ball. Please PM me your contact information and case number (if you have one) and I'll escalate.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 19:54 |
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The Lord Bude posted:And this is where you stuffed up. If you live in a civilized country with consumer protection laws, don't buy things directly from US companies or US based retailers. US company?
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 20:21 |
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Somebody said the feet that come with the g502 are garbage and they weren't wrong. After a short amount of use on a hard pad they started scraping badly and i could feel the vibrations through the mouse. I pried them off and stuck a set of 0.6mm teflon replacements* on them and it glides beautifully now. *https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hotline-Games-Logitech-G502-Mouse-Feet-2014-Edition-/121402762810 (the manufacturers ebay store) One thing to watch for is the instructions on the package say to place them over the original feet but this is only true for the 0.28mm skates, also the original feet have a layer of black foam between the top layer and the adhesive sticker so make sure to get under that when peeling them off (a decent pair of tweezers will help). They come with iso wipes to remove any glue residue and a nice microfiber cloth to clean your glasses with, nerd. The Lord Bude posted:I don't have time to spend 5 minutes moving my mouse from one side of the screen to the other. If you're at 1440p; you need a DPI of around 1600 otherwise moving the mouse cursor is painfully slow. People were using 400-800 DPI in the days of 1200x1024 monitors, it stands to reason DPI would need to increase proportionately to screen resolution. The idea in fps games at least is to lower your dpi and raise your sens to match it. for example 0.8 sens @1600dpi becomes 3.2 sens @400dpi that way your 360 distance stays the same (12.5 inches in this example). then swap it back to a higher dpi for desktop/mobas/mmos/rts or whatever, most mice let you set profiles for individual games so you don't need to gently caress around with dpi switch buttons all the time.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 21:28 |
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You have that exactly backwards. The idea in games is to INCREASE your DPI while proportionally scaling down your sensitivity. To do the opposite results in pixel-skipping
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 22:06 |
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I bought the new Microsoft Surface Precision Mouse. I can confirm that it is a good mouse.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 22:32 |
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Animal posted:I bought the new Microsoft Surface Precision Mouse. I can confirm that it is a good mouse. How good is it? I want to know if I should buy a $100 mouse.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 00:14 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:You have that exactly backwards. that's what i used to think too.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 00:30 |
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Naffer posted:How good is it? I want to know if I should buy a $100 mouse. Yeah I'd say its worth it. VERY comfortable. The material feels soft and premium. The buttons have nice tactile feedback. Weight is about perfect (for me). I love the button to switch the wheel between smooth and staggered scrolling. The tracking seems fine, I think this has been a solved problem for a long time now with high DPI gaming mice pandering to gamers placebo effect. I'm playing PUBG right now and its just fine. I don't notice any lag. I just won a game. I love the feature for switching between paired computers with the touch of a button, so I can bring it along with my Surface laptop and then switch back to my desktop PC and then my Macbook. And one last thing, it looks good in your desk, no pulsating RGB or gamer color bullshit, just a simple elegant industrial design.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 00:55 |
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A pleasant surprise for the Microsoft Surface Precision Mouse: the software is just as powerful as a gaming mouse without looking like vomit. You can make DPI adjustments, macros, the works. I thought it would be a barebones business use mouse but its just as capable as my last Razer.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 16:34 |
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b-b-but some of us like a dizzying array of pulsating lights on our desktop. (its me, i am a sucker for glowy purple things)
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 18:40 |
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It's 135g, which is a certifiable brick for reflex aiming. It would be sincerely surprising if it didn't use a variant of the office bluetrack laser they slapped in the IME, which means it's very liable to spin out for anyone using in the ballpark of 30cm/360. It would be interesting to hear if its wireless fidelity is anywhere near as good as Logitech's peak, however
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 18:52 |
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bandaid.friend posted:I've got a Corsair Scimitar, it's one of those mice with tons of buttons on the side for MMO games. The first one I got I returned to the shop because the scroll wheel's resistance was uneven all the way around and would often double-click on pressing JB HiFi is very good with returns, they replaced the mouse a second time. They gave me a slightly different model. The first two mice had yellow trim, this one has black trim. While googling my issues, I ran across a rumour the yellow ones weren't as reliable as the blacks. I don't know how much is down to chance, but having gone through two faulty yellows before getting a working black, I wouldn't buy a yellow one again
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 20:33 |
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Wait, Microsoft has finally unlocked Smooth Scrolling on their tech tree too? Yay, I'm no longer locked to Logitech mice exclusively
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 21:04 |
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I've got a couple of mouse maintenance questions for you guys. 1: How feasible is it to replace a microswitch for LMB or RMB? Specifically a Logitech G402. The G402 is my favorite programmable mouse so far and since it is already discontinued, I'm nervous about wearing out the LMB because of the about of Logitech M570's that myself and my extended family have clicked into the dirt. I want to be able to replace the main microswitches when they start to doubleclick. I'm very good at soldering and desoldering, so as long as a compatible switch can be sourced and soldered, I think I can do it. 2: How do I clean my mice that have soft, rubberized coatings or what do I do when they start to get sticky and why do they get sticky? My EC1 has been in a case for like two years and I pulled it out to find that the rubberized top felt sticky. I tried cleaning it with just a little soap and water but it didn't make a dent. I tried lens cleaning alcohol wipes, but that did nothing. I moved to wiping it with rubbing alcohol and that stripped the coating right off of the mouse. I feel like these coatings just break down after a few years, even if they aren't in sunlight. I won't buy any more rubberized mice, but I'd like to be able to clean the few that I already have without wiping the poo poo right off of them if I can .
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# ? Dec 5, 2017 23:43 |
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Lots of people replace switches. It requires piercing (or replacing) the feet on the underside of the mouse, unscrewing a few screws, removing the main PCB from the bottom case, desoldering the existing switch, and putting in a new one before reassembling the entire thing. G402 was not designed for internal components to be replaced, so it's not difficult but not easy (assuming you're competent/comfortable with soldering). There's probably a step-by-step guide somewhere. G402 is discontinued in the Americas, but there are still new units in the sales channel. It is still in production for Europe and Asia.
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# ? Dec 6, 2017 17:31 |
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Copper Vein posted:2: How do I clean my mice that have soft, rubberized coatings or what do I do when they start to get sticky and why do they get sticky? I had a cheapish shogun bros mouse and the (extremely thin) rubberized coating started turning brown. I figured it was dirt and tied to gently clean it with warm soapy water which stripped it right off just as effectively as iso :/ .The combination of heat, moisture and sunlight pretty much rotted it clean off.
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# ? Dec 6, 2017 17:47 |
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Goo posted:Please PM me your contact information and case number (if you have one) and I'll escalate. Replacement mouse has arrived today and is working well. Thanks for your help.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 22:20 |
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I got one of the MX Master mice over crazy shopping weekend for $50 and I find a lot of its features a little bit weird. Unlike the tilt to horizontal scroll which I'm used to from the MX1000, G500 and G502, it has a thumb scroll bar for horizontal scrolling. It's different and that's fine, but the default bind has you roll up/clockwise to go left, which seems totally backwards. You can invert it in the software, luckily. Also the thumb rest contains a gesture button which can be pressed to combine with moving the mouse in a direction to do a function. Kind of a nice way to add more functionality to the mouse without more buttons, but I didn't even know it was there until I looked in the software since it doesn't seem like anywhere a button should be. It's also a slow way to access something so it's definitely not targeted to gaming but productivity. The MX Master is also bigger than the G502 and feels a little bit heavier (no doubt because it's got a battery, microcontroller and transcievers for BT and 2.4ghz unifying receivers, battery charging circuit, etc). It's an interesting mouse because of some of these features, but I can't help but wonder if it will end up being one of those mice people grow to love because of them and then find them missing on a future iteration. It seems very pro-sumer targeted due to the multiple device syncing abilities and because its successor has software to support a Mouse Without Borders or Synergy style multiple PC control feature. I think if I did more CAD work and less gaming I'd probably be happier with it but for me it's just going to end up a work laptop mouse. I got it for myself mostly out of curiosity and also because I was considering one for my father as a Xmas gift, but he didn't really like it when I had him try this one. I think it's just too big compared to his N50 Lenovo wireless mouse.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 23:45 |
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Hello. I'm looking for advice on my next mouse. Sub $100 is requirement on cost. I have currently a corsair m65 pro, and it causes extreme pain in the tendons leading to my thumb. I have relatively large hands, so those crappy logitech wireless 10 dollars did the same. I use to have a bloody hand gaming mouse that did fine until the wires frayed and broke. I'm looking for 2+ buttons where thumb is. Additional macro buttons are cool, but the razer 12 button crap is crap. I've thought of the mx master since it's supposedly ergonomic in design, but I don't know how quality the laser in it is, since I'm accustomed to an optical laser mouse. Thank you in advance. (I'm basically asking, big handed people that have had problems with mice in the past, "what is your holy grail")
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 00:21 |
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Ezekial posted:Hello. I'm looking for advice on my next mouse. Corsair Glaive if you have crazy big hands, Razer deathadder if you have big hands, Logitech G703 if you have moderate to big hands. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Ezekial posted:Hello. I'm looking for advice on my next mouse. Corsair Glaiiiive
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 17:01 |
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Animal posted:Yeah I'd say its worth it. VERY comfortable. The material feels soft and premium. The buttons have nice tactile feedback. Weight is about perfect (for me). I love the button to switch the wheel between smooth and staggered scrolling. The tracking seems fine, I think this has been a solved problem for a long time now with high DPI gaming mice pandering to gamers placebo effect. I'm playing PUBG right now and its just fine. I don't notice any lag. I just won a game. Reviews say the mouse lags over blueooth sometimes: https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/accessories/microsoft-surface-precision-mouse?utm_source=notification Does yours have this issue or is it stupid reviewers with busted machines?
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So far I’m not experiencing that issue at all on my Surface Book 2 or my gaming desktop. I just finished the Destiny 2 campaign and the mouse never gave me any trouble. A few times it kind twirled around on quick movements (maybe three times) but I think it was more due to the reflective desk in the hotel room.
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