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Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Dog.

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Glaive17
Oct 11, 2012

What is there left to discover about donuts...?
Pillbug

Tendronai
May 7, 2008

My worst nightmare. It's a dream I have. I'm in a square cell, glass walls, just me and a little castle.
Shinjiro, Koromaru, Yukari.

If we really want to talk about how much P4/5 improved mechanically over P3, we finished the Tower link on 9/13. That means the only thing left to do at nights for the rest of the game is talk to the party, maybe walk Koromaru, head to Tartarus, or go to the arcade and abuse the stat games since money stopped being a thing to worry about months ago. Base P3 didn't let you walk the dog and Tanaka was a day link, so you could be out of night stuff to do by mid August.

Poltergrift
Feb 16, 2014



"When I grow up, I'm gonna be a proper swordsman. One with clothes."
Shinji, Koromaru, Junpei.

I like to imagine that Mr. Edogawa doesn't have eyes. There's just a blank expanse of filmy skin where the sockets should be.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Some of these S. Links it feels like they meander for the middle like 6 ranks and then sprint off towards the end. Like they had the start and some of the end, but no clue how to pace them across 10 distinct scenes. Sports guy's link felt like it went nowhere then suddenly had sweeping changes in the last 2 links. Monk too, to a more minor extent since the whole thing of the link was you reminding him of his son. Student Council guy feels like the same scene 4 times. Fuuka's TRY MY COOKING quagmire.

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

dog and robot

What else is there, really?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
All you need is a boy, a dog and a robot

lightace
Jul 13, 2016
Aigis, Koromaru and Shinji

slink_bot
Aug 1, 2016
Junpei, Shinjiro and Mitsuru

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Yeah, the writing in the S. Links here makes Makoto out as a terrible person and that the people around him are better off without him.

I vote we bring Shinjiro, his dog, and Yukari to level her up.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I'm assuming this doesn't come up in the game beyond the mentions it's already gotten, so here's a scene from the movie of Shinjiro feeding Koromaru.

Also, bring along Aigis.

Awww, what a good scene! :3:

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

Shinji, Aigis, Junpei

Team Physical.

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


Aigis, Yukari, and Koromaru.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

ajkalan posted:

Shinji, Aigis, Junpei

Team Physical.

Physical, physical, I wanna get physicaaaal

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

ajkalan posted:

Shinji, Aigis, Junpei

Team Physical.

This is a good team and I like it.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
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  Yukari: ||||||
  Junpei: |||||||||
 Akihiko: |
 Mitsuru: ||
   Aigis: |||||||||
Koromaru: |||||||||||||||
     Ken: |||
Shinjiro: |||||||||||||
Koromaru and Shinji have a pretty distinctive lead here. 3rd place is a straight tie between Junpei and Aigis, though. :v:

Black Balloon
Dec 28, 2008

The literal grumpiest



Take the robot.

Poltergrift
Feb 16, 2014



"When I grow up, I'm gonna be a proper swordsman. One with clothes."
In that case, I'll change my vote for Junpei to one for Aigis. Sorry, buddy.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

no one, they all suck

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Bring Shinjiro, Koromaru and Aigis. Which means Makoto will probably have to handle healing, but that's nothing new when this game is considered.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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Actually, I have to bring a proviso to my vote. This is the part of Tartarus where you find the Sleeping Table on floor 135, right? gently caress that guy. Don't listen to us when you fight him, just bring whoever works best.

Petiso
Apr 30, 2012



Blue Labrador posted:

I think the game would be improved if at the end of every social link the character in question made the decision to cut Makoto out of their life for being a toxic influence.

amigolupus posted:

Yeah, the writing in the S. Links here makes Makoto out as a terrible person and that the people around him are better off without him.

If you think about it, this is the only game where it makes sense that you don't speak ever again to people you have maxed the social link with.

Earnestly
Apr 24, 2010

Jazz hands!
The thread couldn't handle the tie between Junpei and Aigis

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
I was expecting more posts about the P3 dancing game that's going to exist now, honestly

Earnestly
Apr 24, 2010

Jazz hands!
Spoiler: the p3 protag learns some loving style in p3 dancing. It's released in 2018 and p3 toon place in 2009, so it only took nine years.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Frankly, I'm not entirely sure that stylish blue-haired boy isn't some sort of imposter. P3 Protag not being some sort of weird gloomy depressive goes against everything I know.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Does the P3 protag act that way in the movies?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Mraagvpeine posted:

Does the P3 protag act that way in the movies?

For most of the first and even the second movie, he could not be more apathetic about life if he tried.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Mraagvpeine posted:

Does the P3 protag act that way in the movies?

He's pretty :geno:, barring moments where he comes through to save his friends or something, until around the end of the second film where he starts having the concern that getting rid of the Dark Hour means going back to a normal, boring life that leaves him with nothing in common with everyone else.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Earnestly posted:

The thread couldn't handle the tie between Junpei and Aigis

The secret is that grinding everyone without actively fighting things is really slow (and of course needs babying so people don't die constantly) so even though I did get the next update recorded I just, uh, sorta ignored playing any more afterwards and haven't gotten back to it yet. :saddowns:

Probably could've also written it, but some holiday thing happened and made people get in the way?

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Dragonatrix posted:

Probably could've also written it, but some holiday thing happened and made people get in the way?

Man, if we wanted to deal with real people we wouldn't be playing social_life_simulator_3 :argh:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!


So, it sure seems like we got pretty much all the plot stuff for the month dealt with now that Junpei's done moping around.

Changing Seasons / Sun



Three left, huh? And the next one won't come for another three weeks.
Man, why can't they just come all at once?
That would be tough.
Haha. That's true.
But, with more people now, it should be easier to defeat them.
I can't wait for the next full moon.



Nice brisk day, and I think Kenji finally realised what his S.Link is. "Not good" is an understatement, to be fair.

...Well, let's see where this rabbit hole leads.

Troubled



Are you in trouble?
R-Right... I-I...



D-Dude! I-I don't know what to do...!



oh no such a tragedy

Emiri is being transferred to a school in Kyushu... Wh-What should I do, dude?
You should talk to her.
Yeah, man, that's what I thought!



But she's, like, totally avoiding me...
It's like, all of a sudden, she won't take my phone calls or reply to my text messages...
She's probably only doing this to protect me, but still...

> Kenji seems like he's going to cry.

I can't just sit here and do nothing...
I gotta think of a plan... I need your help, dude...

> Kenji has disclosed his troubles to you.

> Your relationship is stronger now!





> You decided to return to the dorm.

As far as Kenji's scenes go, this one is probably one of the more boring and uninteresting really. Kinda disappointed, since its lost the "charm" it had before.

Iwatodai Dorm



However, she's still uncomfortable talking about Personas...
It might take a while before she's ready.
Oh well.
We still have three Shadows to worry about, so I'll concentrate on that.
They'll be sorry they ever set foot into this world.

We've still got like 3 weeks, just under, before the next full moon which is plenty of time really. We don't need to focus overly much on training that hard.

...I'll probably do it offscreen a bunch anyway, but that's more for convenience than anything else.



...which is a shame. As Student Council President, I have invested a lot of time organizing it.
So, I hope we can still have the festival, but...
I guess all we can do is trust in Providence...



I used to think he was a bit of a womanizer...

That's because he is. Or at least was.

...but now he seems like such a gentleman.



The only reason he is still alive is because he has knowledge in self-preservation.
That quality makes him quite valuable in battle.



So, I'm gonna give her some space.
It's gonna be hard. But, what can I do...?



Y'know, I was kinda tempted to go to Tartarus tonight. Turns out that's not happening, because Koromaru wants to take a walk, and we can bring Shinji with us!

Joy





Well, what happens, happens...

> You spoke quietly with Shinjiro...



...You used to live here, huh?
Well, c'mon... Let's go home.



It's a bit of a shame that we can't quite keep up with my plan to just marathon Kenji for a couple days now. Monday, Tuesday, Friday...

Changing Seasons / Sun



Gossiping: Yukari is going to dress up as a maid for a cafe in the Culture Festival!
Listening: Wait, are you serious!? Why? What happened?
Gossiping: She drew the short straw in the Archery Club! She's gonna be pissed, but that's all the more reason to check out the cafe!

> The first bell has rung.

See, stuff like this makes it really obvious that whole "typhoon" thing isn't going to amount to anything important. They're spending time letting us know about just how anime and dumb this festival is gonna be.



So, today's a Wednesday. We can't do quite as much during the daytime here than you'd think. We still have plenty to do, don't get me wrong, but it's gotten much more limited than before. So, student council is actually seeming worthwhile!

Joy



It's actually kind of nice not having those hyenas around.
Hyenas?
I see the way they look at me.

> Hidetoshi seems troubled.



...As you can see, the meeting's over, so you can leave if you want.
But, I just got here...
I see...



If you're not in a hurry, can you spare a few minutes?
A man without position, honor, or education... What can he cling to as he struggles through life?
"Sincerity," a man once told me.
...Do you want to know what happened to that man?





But when a magazine learned they were hiding something, the execs pointed the finger at the script writer.
They said it was the writer who had concealed the truth; he was made into a scapegoat.



In today's society, the weak are preyed upon by the strong. You can't survive on sincerity alone!



But, to do that, I'd need enough power to make my vision a reality.

> Hidetoshi is opening up to you.

> Your relationship is stronger now!





> You decided to go back to the dorm.

Hey, look, Hidetoshi kind of has a personality now that exists and isn't overtly obnoxious. Good for him! It only took more than half the S.Link (technically).

Iwatodai Dorm



We have to stop the Shadows at any cost.

Yeah, that's true. We're pretty close to done, though; only 3 more of the Arcana Shadows to go, remember...



Why me!? It's just not right!
I agree.
I'm so embarrassed! I feel like running away!



I'm not sure if it's going to hit us or not, though...



I probably wouldn't have gone to it anyway.
I really don't like being around a lot of people right now.

The game is making it seem so much more likely than not that the typhoon isn't going to matter, but it still keeps getting brought up anyway. And there's just enough doubt about it creeping in...

On the other hand, Culture Festival.



That crap doesn't interest me.

So, anyway, it's a Wednesday and our evenings are awfully limited in general now. We've pretty much cleared out everything we can do at night, so...

The Voice Someone Calls



We're gonna be going to Tartarus, tonight. We'll be bringing this team with us this time around, and boy howdy is this the Hard Mode composition. Actively no one here has anything really resembling worthwhile support and no active healing outside of items.

Makoto can compensate for that easily enough, sure, but that's a giant waste of your wild card.


tartarus_0d04



I dunno what it is with the modern Persona games having a Yellow Area, but at least this one is more of a muted gold than the bright piss yellow bloom mess that Persona 5 has.



Tziah is actually pretty simple, compared to the earlier blocks. Its name just means "drought" in Hebrew, and its also from the Kabbalistic traditions as the name of the sixth world.



Theres not really much to Tziah as an area that we haven't seen before, but that's not gonna be a surprise at this point. Tartarus just sorta isn't very exciting on its own merits. At least Tziah is rolling out the red carpet for us.



On the 118th floor, Fuuka finds where the boss fight is gonna be. We started Tziah on 115, so the fight is pretty dang early and quick huh?



And we managed to find some armor that's totally obviously just for Junpei.

...And that's about it as far as things in the first stretch of Tziah. Yeah, really.


Mass Destruction / Wiping All Out



So, what about new Shadows? Well, we have Champion Knights turning up here from the previous block of course.



And, naturally, a new area means the cards can go upto rank 6 now too. The EXP gains from this are getting pretty drat wacky, since its basically 220% with a Rank 6 Wands.



As for Shadows that are actually new? Hey look, it's a Maya. Hey look, it's terrible! Can only do Strike damage and gets dunked on hardcore by Elec and Wind. Has such a low HP amount that its not ever gonna get a turn... Sure is a Maya alright.



Constancy Relic is... significantly less threatening than some other Relics we've seen. That she wastes one spell slot on Re Patra is especially baffling to me. Media is cute but worthless now. Garudyne is almost a threat since she has 31 Magic. A Fire weakness is especially bad at this point. It's tied with Elec in weaknesses that are easiest to exploit for obvious reasons.



Blue Sigil is... not that scary, really. Ice is only bad for Akihiko, and he's not scraping the lower end of the party at this point so he's likely not gonna see use. The Sigil itself being weak to Dark is laughably unfortunate for it.



Tranquility Idols are pretty easy to deal with, honestly. Mamudo is very easy to have, now as is Mudoon. Koromaru having Dark spells himself makes them really simple. Hama(on) isn't as threatening as it seems, really.



Killer Drive is very similar to the Idol in that it's weak to an instant death element and that's... really absurdly bad for it. Oh well, I'm not complaining. Power Charge + Gigantic Fist WOULD be dangerous if it ever had a chance to matter. Oops!



And, yeah, the Red Shadow here is pretty common and I'm glad for that because it's sort of almost a fun one.



..Just don't Rush and/or have a Physical oriented party. Guess what half of that we fall into!



The Hakurou Musha is a new type of Shadow, oh my! That he's weak to both Expel AND Dark seems like its easy to exploit (and it is) but the low rates of the easily usable spells at this point balances it out. Power Charge + Zan-Ei could be really dangerous on a New Moon, but its something that'll only catch you out once.

That said they have 42 Strength and 43 Agility so it IS bad to get hit by.



They give pretty dece EXP for sure, though, and we need 3 of their drops for Elizabeth.



And, hey, when getting the last one Fuuka hits level 41 and learns a new skill. It does exactly what it says on the tin, really. It's a 15% heal so it scales pretty decently, though by the time it matters much, HP damage from regular Shadows isn't going to be a thing that kills you.



...That's it for new Shadows here. Yeah, there's not really much in this bit of Tziah.


The Poem For Everyone's Soul



They're perfect for use with a katana.
Not many things are both beautiful and functional, as these are.
Please accept your reward.



The reward certainly isn't super-great. 200k is nice and all but its either not enough to matter or its just more to add to the pile. A bit of an awkward one, that. I'm sure some folks'd get use out of it though.



I, uh, I can't say I was expecting this to happen when I was taking advantage of our newly maxed Tower Link. Cu Chulainn's the second Tower persona and the first one that has Power Charge available (hence why Setanta got it super, super early in Portable I guess!). And then he skill changed to get early Samarecarm (revives someone with full HP). Sure, okay. Probably won't use it though.



So, hey, let's fight a bunch of tanks. With a spear!

...Getting some Civ memories all up in here.


Chariot Arcane Turret x3 (Portable)

Master of Tartarus / Danger Zone



Technically, Fuuka is right. The Arcane Turrets here are pretty noteworthy!



See, they're immune to Fire and Elec and resist Slash/Strike/Pierce. They're "weak" to Ice and neutral to Wind.

Nothing particularly noteworthy there, right? Sure, but! Unless I'm forgetting something (maybe) the Arcane Turret is the last boss with a weakness. So, uh, there's that.



There isn't much that the Turrets can do that we haven't seen before, really. Marakunda is new insofar as its a multi-target debuff which I'm sure they needed with their 1000SP that the each have.



They also have Eerie Sound to try and spook everyone... but with a whopping 13 Luck it doesn't work all that well!



But, hey, we have Cu Chulainn and he comes with Vile Assault. Y'know how Ken has Cruel Assault which does bonus damage to downed enemies? This is that but Even More.



Did I mention these things resist Pierce? Yeaaaaah, that goes super-well for them I'm sure. This'd basically one-shot one otherwise (they have 1000HP each).



Anyway, uh, if they get turns they can use it to Mind Charge like everything else has been able to.



They have a couple of Dynes which sounds scary...



...but they have 20 Magic so its really kinda not.



Just, uh, don't be weak to Elec or Fire.



Because they can ALSO use Vile Assault! And wouldn't you know it, the Chariot things have decently high Strength (45).



And that's it. That's all they can do. Yeah, uh, not much of a threat there all told. Just a bit of a long fight because they don't take much damage and there's 3 of 'em. Whatever.


End



I'll certainly not turn down getting a couple Balms of Life though. YHVH knows these things could be handy, in theory, at some point ever.

Possibly even the next time we come to Tartarus! But, uh, for now we'll just get back to the daily life of a high school boy.

Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 13, 2018

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


Dragonatrix posted:



And we managed to find some armor that's totally obviously just for Junpei.

Why is Junpei wearing dog suits? You probably meant Koromaru

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Yukari posted:

Why is Junpei wearing dog suits? You probably meant Koromaru

:thejoke:

What is it with these games and maids :doh: it's creepy.

Also is it possible to include some spell/attack descriptions when you get new ones? I have no idea what Scarecam does.

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


MysticalMachineGun posted:

:thejoke:

What is it with these games and maids :doh: it's creepy.

Also is it possible to include some spell/attack descriptions when you get new ones? I have no idea what Scarecam does.

Samarecarm revives a person at full HP in comparison to Recarm which only gives them 50% HP.

Galick
Nov 26, 2011

Why does Khajiit have to go to prison this time?
SMT spells are written in an odd way - every spell has a base (Agi, Recarm, etc.) and then a prefix that -generally- specifies number of targets, and a suffix that almost always specifies power. (Mar)Agi(Lao) for instance is an all targeting Agi spell with medium power.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Galick posted:

SMT spells are written in an odd way - every spell has a base (Agi, Recarm, etc.) and then a prefix that -generally- specifies number of targets, and a suffix that almost always specifies power. (Mar)Agi(Lao) for instance is an all targeting Agi spell with medium power.
...except that the mid-tier all-target fire spell is actually called Maragion, for reasons not known to man nor beast.

It usually works this way though!

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
It's usually Maragion, in English translations, yeah but sometimes its left as Maragilao (Portable does that, even, for example) presumably for consistency even though Maragion just sounds and flows better. A lot of the MT spell names are just made more sensible in official translations, anyway, since they're often two words. To use this same line, Maragi is a contraction of Maha Agi, for example.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Also is it possible to include some spell/attack descriptions when you get new ones? I have no idea what Scarecam does.

Ah, yeah, sorry 'bout that. Just editted that one in.

At this point, I've done so many SMT LPs that the chance of this being someone's first just... sorta slips my mind sometimes. I keep meaning to do that just in case, but mistakes are made. :shobon:

Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jan 19, 2018

Epicmissingno
Jul 1, 2017

Thank gooness we all get along so well!
And then there's Recarmdra, which is kind of like Recarm but also a class of spell unto itself. It kills the user and revives and fully heals all their teammates, and I'd be very surprised if it's even in this game since it's likely that none of the non-Makoto party members could learn it and Makoto using it would cause a game over.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Dragonatrix posted:

It's usually Maragion, in English translations, yeah but sometimes its left as Maragilao (Portable does that, even, for example) presumably for consistency even though Maragion just sounds and flows better.
I...played Portable, and no memory of it being Maragilao. Clearly it's been a while. :ohdear:

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StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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Epicmissingno posted:

And then there's Recarmdra, which is kind of like Recarm but also a class of spell unto itself. It kills the user and revives and fully heals all their teammates, and I'd be very surprised if it's even in this game since it's likely that none of the non-Makoto party members could learn it and Makoto using it would cause a game over.

There's one or two generic shadows that get it, I think. Makoto can use it too! It lowers your HP to one rather than killing you, but even so I've never used it, because that's still a terrible loving idea.

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