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canyoneer posted:https://gfycat.com/SaltyFrighteningAustraliancurlew Aint no John Wick
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ultrabindu posted:https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/936696987990331393 they mean no leaks from the mueller investigation the administration and their legal team learned about the plea deal on the news this morning with the rest of us lol
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Vidme is shutting down. Schadenfreude from them laying out why their service was a bad idea from the get go (shockingly, when you can't attract brand-safe advertisers, you don't get advertisers!), schadenfreude from every angry YouTuber who left (or simply threatened to). MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 23:26 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Not Operator posted:I feel like "That's not who I am," and all variations on it are good indications of how insincere an apology is. It roughly translates to "I'm not sorry for what I did, just sorry I got caught"
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canyoneer posted:https://gfycat.com/CarefreeWealthyGilamonster Still would have been an accident and a half. There was almost zero clearance on the other side of the pool. He still would have, at the least, splashed the moped...
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If you read this Twitter thread you understand why. https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/936602442996813824
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Wiggly posted:If you read this Twitter thread you understand why. Thanks, this hasn't been all over the news all day, I'm glad you showed me this.
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Wiggly posted:If you read this Twitter thread you understand why. This guy is really unreliable. If he's right it's usually a broken clock situation.
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Eeeeh. As much as I want to enjoy the schaden of trumps' dumbassery getting spanked, this has happened before. Someone important gets arrested, they plead guilty, we get all wound up, and nothing comes of it.
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Wiggly posted:If you read this Twitter thread you understand why. So what happens when Trump fires Mueller?
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Eeeeh. As much as I want to enjoy the schaden of trumps' dumbassery getting spanked, this has happened before. Someone important gets arrested, they plead guilty, we get all wound up, and nothing comes of it. ultrabindu posted:So what happens when Trump fires Mueller? read the thread its really good.
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I did read the thread, I'm just having a hard time getting excited about it. Every time I get my hopes up that something will happen, nothing does, so why should I get excited yet again?
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I did read the thread, I'm just having a hard time getting excited about it. Every time I get my hopes up that something will happen, nothing does, so why should I get excited yet again? Multiple credible sources are now reporting that Jared Kushner personally directed Flynn to meet with the Russian ambassador, and so at the very least he's in deep poo poo and could easily end up indicted very, very soon. And Kushner is way closer to Trump than the investigation has ever been, I mean it's just one step removed. If they can somehow prove that Kushner was directed to say those things to Flynn by Trump, or even just that Trump knew about it, that could mean impeachment. And this is Ivanka's husband we're talking about, Trump can't just say he's a nobody who's on the fringe of the administration. Now, the odds of any serious consequences for Trump himself are still fairly low imo, but certainly much higher than they were yesterday.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Eeeeh. As much as I want to enjoy the schaden of trumps' dumbassery getting spanked, this has happened before. Someone important gets arrested, they plead guilty, we get all wound up, and nothing comes of it. The dumbest thing about this is the 'lying to the FBI' bit. There's nothing improper or irregular about the incoming administration's NSA pick talking to the Russian ambassador, or other ambassadors, at all. Basebf555 posted:Multiple credible sources are now reporting that Jared Kushner personally directed Flynn to meet with the Russian ambassador, and so at the very least he's in deep poo poo and could easily end up indicted very, very soon. Why? Unless Kushner also lied to the FBI about this (which admittedly would be possible because these people are apparently dumb as gently caress), "meeting with the Russian ambassador" is not only not illegal, it's entirely expected for important members of an incoming administration like the NSA. For that matter, Trump could just pardon Flynn (and I'm kind of surprised he actually hasn't already done so).
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sneakyfrog posted:a private citizen, setting up back channels with representatives of a foreign power, without registering as a foreign agent with state at the very minimum with the intention of influencing american opinion or policy is literally by definition espionage. It's literally not, and the incoming NSA meeting with the ambassador of a foreign power is pretty much the opposite of a "back channel." That's a front channel. The entire *purpose* of the Executive administration is to "influence American policy." Like, that's literally the job of the executive branch. A "private citizen" doesn't get daily security briefings from the current Executive branch, but the incoming administration's staff absolutely does. It's not like inauguration day rolls around and it's "Welp, you're President now, good luck." There's a lot of groundwork that happens before then. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 01:03 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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Phanatic posted:For that matter, Trump could just pardon Flynn (and I'm kind of surprised he actually hasn't already done so). Accepting a pardon means that you have to enter a plea of Guilty for the crime you're being pardoned of. It also means that you cannot invoke your 5th amendment rights involving testimony because you can't incriminate yourself in a crime you've been pardoned of.
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Phanatic posted:The dumbest thing about this is the 'lying to the FBI' bit. There's nothing improper or irregular about the incoming administration's NSA pick talking to the Russian ambassador, or other ambassadors, at all. Of course, the content of the meetings matter. And we know that the meetings were about figuring out a way to delay certain UN votes related to Israeli settlements. So, well in advance of Trump actually taking office, his team was conspiring to undermine the current foreign policy that the current President was enacting(the administration supported voting for a resolution condemning the Israeli settlements). Incoming administrations have cursory meetings with ambassadors, where they discuss logistics and exchange pleasantries and other bullshit. That's not what this is, and Kushner could absolutely go down for it, especially since he's almost certainly already lied about it either to Congress or the FBI. Also, don't make the mistake of taking this in a vacuum, independent of everything else. We also know that Don Jr. was communicating with Kremlin connected people in an effort to get, at best, opposition research on Clinton. So these are all things Mueller is now forcing Flynn to cooperate about, and the fact that they're giving him a deal means there's a high likelihood that he knows much more than we found out today. Basebf555 has a new favorite as of 01:07 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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Kurieg posted:Accepting a pardon means that you have to enter a plea of Guilty for the crime you're being pardoned of. It also means that you cannot invoke your 5th amendment rights involving testimony because you can't incriminate yourself in a crime you've been pardoned of. Both of these things are simplifications. The first is just plain wrong: you can be pardoned of crimes you haven't even been charged with. Ford pardoned Nixon for any and all crimes he might have committed; Nixon didn't have to enter any guilty pleas. Second, just because you've been pardoned of a single Federal crime doesn't mean that you can't incriminate yourself in other crimes. Read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/02/if-youre-pardoned-can-you-be-compelled-to-testify-about-your-crime/ Schadenfreude: Goons in the schadenfreude thread being really, really sure they know how the loving law works.
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Phanatic posted:It's literally not, and the incoming NSA meeting with the ambassador of a foreign power is pretty much the opposite of a "back channel." That's a front channel. The entire *purpose* of the Executive administration is to "influence American policy." Like, that's literally the job of the executive branch. tbf some of the timelines indicate this was prior to the days when the courtesy briefings for a potential president elect happened but hey im not an expert, ive just had a few security clearances and i had a lot of briefings that tell you what you totally cant do.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Eeeeh. As much as I want to enjoy the schaden of trumps' dumbassery getting spanked, this has happened before. Someone important gets arrested, they plead guilty, we get all wound up, and nothing comes of it. https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/936605167977484288 Malachite_Dragon posted:I did read the thread, I'm just having a hard time getting excited about it. Every time I get my hopes up that something will happen, nothing does, so why should I get excited yet again? 
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Powaqoatse posted:all of you forget that we're in 2017-Trump now, the timeline where ＮＯＴＨＩＮＧ ＭＡＴＴＥＲＳ And I'd guess this won't either, but to act like it shouldn't matter is just dishonest. It should matter, but it probably won't. But there's always hope.
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Phanatic posted:It's literally not, and the incoming NSA meeting with the ambassador of a foreign power is pretty much the opposite of a "back channel." That's a front channel. The entire *purpose* of the Executive administration is to "influence American policy." Like, that's literally the job of the executive branch. "incoming NSA" is not an official title. He's still breaking the Logan Act, all incoming executive branch personnel are unless they're in the government already.
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Powaqoatse posted:all of you forget that we're in 2017-Trump now, the timeline where ＮＯＴＨＩＮＧ ＭＡＴＴＥＲＳ it amazes me how long it has taken a lot of people to understand this He doesn't care what people think He never will
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Grem posted:"incoming NSA" is not an official title. He's still breaking the Logan Act, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 Edit: Unrelated, NBC is refusing to pay Matt Lauer for the remainder of his contract: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362852-nbc-will-not-agree-to-any-payout-for-matt-lauer-report Phanatic has a new favorite as of 01:21 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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Memento posted:it amazes me how long it has taken a lot of people to understand this One of Trump's worst personality traits is that he does care what people think. You're just not one.
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Basebf555 posted:And I'd guess this won't either, but to act like it shouldn't matter is just dishonest. It should matter, but it probably won't. But there's always hope. That's exactly it. Nothing is going to come of this. The dumbass advisor will be replaced with another, stupider advisor. Don't get me wrong, I want this to hurt trump and his cronies, but I'm tired of getting my hopes up.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:That's exactly it. Nothing is going to come of this. The dumbass advisor will be replaced with another, stupider advisor. Don't get me wrong, I want this to hurt trump and his cronies, but I'm tired of getting my hopes up. The adviser you're talking about though is Trump's son in law. That's really the thing that separates this from the other stuff so far. It's not quite as easy for him to just throw him under the bus as the others.
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Basebf555 posted:The adviser you're talking about though is Trump's son in law. That's really the thing that separates this from the other stuff so far. It's not quite as easy for him to just throw him under the bus as the others. Yeah, this is bigger and closer to the center than it has been. poo poo like this is a process, you have to work on it and wear them down. It's like watching a boxing match and giving up because the 15th jab in a row wasn't a knockout punch. This isn't likely the end for Trump, but it is a pretty major thing, and it's actually only the 2nd or third tjing to come from Muellers actual investigation.
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What I find mind-bogglingly, pants-shittingly crazy about this whole situation is that, regardless of whether anything comes of this investigation, regardless of whether anyone in the Trump administration/campaign colluded with Putin's Russia to help Trump win the election. . . it's still an established fact that Putin's Russia helped Trump win the election. Whether it was at Trump's request or not. This foreign leader whose interests on the world stage are, in many ways, in direct conflict to America's interests thinks that Trump being president of America is good for him/his country. Whether he wants to utterly destroy the West or merely weaken America to help increase Russia's power overseas, he thought that electing Trump will help do that. That is loving terrifying.
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DontMockMySmock posted:What I find mind-bogglingly, pants-shittingly crazy about this whole situation is that, regardless of whether anything comes of this investigation, regardless of whether anyone in the Trump administration/campaign colluded with Putin's Russia to help Trump win the election. . . it's still an established fact that Putin's Russia helped Trump win the election. Whether it was at Trump's request or not. This foreign leader whose interests on the world stage are, in many ways, in direct conflict to America's interests thinks that Trump being president of America is good for him/his country. Whether he wants to utterly destroy the West or merely weaken America to help increase Russia's power overseas, he thought that electing Trump will help do that. That is loving terrifying. That's not the baffling/crazy/scary part. The baffling/crazy/scary part is the enormous number of people going to outrageous lengths to justify and defend the situation. A brief perusal of D&D shows that, even among the obviously left-leaning crowds in the threads I frequent, a disturbing number of people have been violently hostile to anyone implying that, actually, Russia may have lately been meddling in American politics a tad more than the usual amount. It turned into one of those issues where people were trying to top each other in expressing just how stupid that idea was, and how smart and sane and calm they are for not buying into it.
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Basebf555 posted:And I'd guess this won't either, but to act like it shouldn't matter is just dishonest. It should matter, but it probably won't. But there's always hope. agreed, it very much should matter but experience tells me it wont ill be the first to celebrate trump's untergang if it ever comes
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Basebf555 posted:The adviser you're talking about though is Trump's son in law. That's really the thing that separates this from the other stuff so far. It's not quite as easy for him to just throw him under the bus as the others. Getting rid of him would remove the only thing standing between Trump and Ivanka.
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