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mlmp08 posted:Yeah. One whose name I can’t recall was rather uniquely placed to have minimal competition and an awesome mix of climate, isolation, and food. Pretty easy to get along in such a location. Until you've hosed your paradise into a Malthusian hell
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aphid_licker posted:Until you've hosed your paradise into a Malthusian hell They got colonized and now only a couple families remain out in the bush facing food shortages. It was an interesting but depressing read.
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It’s like one of those little birds that takes a dust bath to get the parasites off!
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mlmp08 posted:They got colonized and now only a couple families remain out in the bush facing food shortages. It was an interesting but depressing read. Ok yeah, or someone else barges in and ruins it, that'll do it too.
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So far three nations have made a bid for the design for Canada's surface combatant project. They are: A Dutch design being backed by Alion (a defense multinational that was the primary designer of the Arleigh Burke class destroyers, among other things); A block of French and Italian firms backing the FREMM frigate; and another block lead by Lockmart fronting BAE's Type 26 frigate. also Irving wants to sell Arctic patrol ships abroad but the fact that they are so expensive raises doubts about this.
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James C. Scott just published a book — Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States — arguing against the valorisation of city-states and early instances of civilisation. There's a nice review in the latest LRB available for free here.
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Nebakenezzer posted:So far three nations have made a bid for the design for Canada's surface combatant project. They are: All good choices for the surface combatant imo, although I was hoping for the Burke III/Sejong but those are too large and heavily armed. Also lol at Irving thinking they could be globally competitive at anything. Frigging Poland is more of a shipbuilding power than we are.
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orange juche posted:I mean there is going to be some sand ingestion into the engines with that cloud, not enough to stop the flight, but I still wouldn't want to have to post flight that aircraft. Ingesting small amounts of sand helps it built up an immunity to larger amounts of sand. 
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Warlord ism on the margin of empire is an extremely old problem my dudes.
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A CalFire contractor is flying a red, white, and blue CH-47 around McClellan today. I heard it before I saw it, and my immediate thought was that the noise couldn't possibly be from a police chopper, air ambulance, or even a Huey.
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Cat Mattress posted:Random airpower picture I don't see anything, what is it?
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Nebakenezzer posted:So far three nations have made a bid for the design for Canada's surface combatant project. They are: quote:“Our team is really excited to get on with the next phase of this acquisition,” Rosemary Chapdelaine, vice president and general manager of Lockheed Martin Canada RMS (Rotary and Mission Systems), said in an interview with Defence Watch. RIP Type 26
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aphid_licker posted:RIP Type 26 *adds a zero to every price* Whew Canadianization took a while! hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Random airpower picture Is there a panel missing here, or is it just stuck in invisible mode?
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priznat posted:Also lol at Irving thinking they could be globally competitive at anything. Frigging Poland is more of a shipbuilding power than we are. I mean yes it's kind of their thing? Check out where Solidarnosc came from.
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Dead Reckoning posted:A CalFire contractor is flying a red, white, and blue CH-47 around McClellan today. I heard it before I saw it, and my immediate thought was that the noise couldn't possibly be from a police chopper, air ambulance, or even a Huey. There's an outfit called Columbia Helicopters that sort of made the Boeing tandem-rotors their thing. Ended up buying the type certificates for a couple of them. Not sure how many other civilian operators there are.
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feedmegin posted:I mean yes it's kind of their thing? Check out where Solidarnosc came from. They’re pretty minor too compared to China and SK and Japan, was my gist. All of europe produces a tiny sliver of tonnage that any one of those countries do. Irving would not even exist if it wasn’t for life support from the government.
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feedmegin posted:I mean yes it's kind of their thing? Check out where Solidarnosc came from. That stuff is gone afaik. That 1990s deindustrialization was a bitch and a half.
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hobbesmaster posted:*adds a zero to every price* You forgot to multiply the development time by 3.
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Hermsgervørden posted:Is there a panel missing here, or is it just stuck in invisible mode? That's a legacy capability held over from the F-15: 
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Cat Mattress posted:Random airpower picture I’m guessing SSgt Lacroix didn’t have a good day.
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Canadianizing: make all the signs bilingual and install taps of molson canadian and labatt blue in the officer’s mess.
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hobbesmaster posted:I’m guessing SSgt Lacroix didn’t have a good day. I wonder how much a replacement panel costs with the fancy composites and stealthy RAM coatings.
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priznat posted:Canadianizing: make all the signs bilingual and install taps of molson canadian and labatt blue in the officer’s mess. Don't forget to write all manuals in French, translate to English and then back to French again for funsies.
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What's the little key or whatever sticking out on the top, left edge of the missing panel?
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Fearless posted:Don't forget to write all manuals in French, translate to English and then back to French again for funsies. Also exactly half of the units used in construction and fitments will be in metric and half in imperial.
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Well good news for military funding looks like $1.5T just got pulled from the next ten years' budgets.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:What's the little key or whatever sticking out on the top, left edge of the missing panel? On second thought, this seems to be the single point refueling panel, which means it gets opened and closed a lot. It appears to be hinged on the top, so I bet we're seeing the hinge mechanism.    edit:Some googling indicates it was a Kadena bird that lost the panel in flight. http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/2017/12/01/kadena-f-35a-loses-panel-in-flight/ wkarma fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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aphid_licker posted:RIP Type 26 So a Type 26 that'll end up costing more, and with more capabilities stripped for being to expensive than even the British version will end at. 
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Not exactly cold war but the script on this is too stereotypical '40s not to share: https://youtu.be/3PL2HFLRMI0 quote:Those tanks look kinda tough, don't they? I guess you think you wouldn't have much of a chance up against those babies.
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simplefish posted:Not exactly cold war but the script on this is too stereotypical '40s not to share: Anyone else got Devo playing in their head now?
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Greetings friends! Please allow me to barge into your thread and ask a dumb question, I posted it else ware and was told you folks would be in a much better position to answer: How quickly could the US air force bomb something to pieces if it needed too? Lets say some potentially apocalyptic event happened in a major city, say LA, and the only way to save the country was to utterly devastate a good sized area immediately. The "rules" It has to be N O W!! Non nuclear Chemical weapons are ok if its quicker COMPLETE removal of life is required, no consideration for civilians caught in the area, the size of a few city blocks but rapidly expanding. Appreciate muchly the help!
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You can’t do “nothing lives” bombing at the city level with conventional weapons.
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Indulge me, lets say they wanted to "give it a go"
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504 posted:Greetings friends!  I know you said non nuclear but whatever
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504 posted:Greetings friends! Immediate and multiple overlapping nuclear strikes is the only way to approach 100% kills over a given area if time is a critical factor. Conventional bombing just isn't powerful enough, and chemical weapons are too haphazard. The surest way is to quarantine the area and turn many thousands of your soldiers into war criminals, but if it absolutely has to be right loving now, and the consequences of not going nuclear are worse than the consequences of freaking out the other nuclear powers and irradiating your own countryside, then it's time to start dropping The Bomb.
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A.o.D. posted:if it absolutely has to be right loving now, and the consequences of not going nuclear are worse than the consequences of freaking out the other nuclear powers and irradiating your own countryside, then it's time to start dropping The Bomb. That's a good point, thanks for bringing that up.
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The biggest non-nuclear murder weapons are thermobaric stuff. You'd need a lot of them to sterilize a city, and you might need to start with more conventional bombs to destroy structures that could shelter people from the pressure waves.
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504 posted:That's a good point, thanks for bringing that up. History seems to be full of examples of cities and forested areas getting massive bombardments of HE and incendiary weapons for days/weeks at a time using artillery and aircraft of every kind to remove some defending force. It always seems to turn out with a significant portion of the defenders still dug into the rubble waiting.
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