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I am pretty glad 17 and 18 are finally starting to do more. They had no excuse doing as little as they did before last week, what with the literal infinite energy and all.
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What the years have made strange for them all... Maybe Goku was the drug all along.
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Dec 3, 2017 20:28
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Burkion posted:Their ki may be actually artificial. Ki is a natural energy so the energy they produce MIGHT NOT BE KI?????????? the actual in universe explanation is that you're not giving your fighting energy when you supply a spirit bomb but your life energy. which is why goku needed the entire earths energy to defeat majin buu of course super completely contradicts this
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Dec 3, 2017 20:32
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apart from the parts that are not robot, they are robots who run on electricity and you can't ask a calculator to not make you want to go to bed
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Dec 3, 2017 20:41
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seiferguy posted:Couldn't the androids with their infinite energy give Goku some of that power like Freeza did? Old Kai outright said Goku is intentionally fighting while at his breaking point to try to trigger Ultra Instinct, getting more energy kinda defeats the point of that.
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Dec 3, 2017 20:57
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Do they even know how to transfer ki to somebody else? They aren't martial artists as such; would they be able to without training if they weren't built with the capacity?
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Dec 3, 2017 21:00
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Rand Brittain posted:Do they even know how to transfer ki to somebody else? They aren't martial artists as such; would they be able to without training if they weren't built with the capacity?
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Dec 3, 2017 21:01
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:Frieza isn't a martial artist either, but he can do it. And you know that's something he's never done in the past. I mean he experienced it first hand when Goku did it to him. Freiza is as naturally talented as it gets so I wouldn't put it past him to know it from that brief experience. It's basically how Cell learned Instant Transmission, too.
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Dec 3, 2017 21:07
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:Frieza isn't a martial artist either, but he can do it. And you know that's something he's never done in the past. Frieza mastered ki control while in Hell and as mentioned Goku did it to him.
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Dec 3, 2017 21:15
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a cartoon duck posted:Old Kai outright said Goku is intentionally fighting while at his breaking point to try to trigger Ultra Instinct, getting more energy kinda defeats the point of that. Oh god, what if Goku becomes unable to hit Ultra Instinct because of zenkai boosts. Saiyan BS template is not compatible with new system updates, please fix.
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Dec 3, 2017 21:21
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Stairmaster posted:the actual in universe explanation is that you're not giving your fighting energy when you supply a spirit bomb but your life energy. which is why goku needed the entire earths energy to defeat majin buu Has it? He got powered up from it but no one said you can't use life energy for strength.
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Dec 3, 2017 22:16
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CharlestonJew posted:I think the "ideal" of UI is that you can just have it active naturally all the time, but Goku hasn't mastered it yet so he can only really attain it when pushed to his breaking point So again, you can still build a tolerance to throwing yourself into so many do or die situations that your instincts just can't break through the shell because you've built it back up too strong. How are you supposed to permanently remove the shell then to have it always on?
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Dec 3, 2017 22:24
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Crabtree posted:So again, you can still build a tolerance to throwing yourself into so many do or die situations that your instincts just can't break through the shell because you've built it back up too strong. How are you supposed to permanently remove the shell then to have it always on?
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Dec 3, 2017 22:29
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Momomo posted:Has it? He got powered up from it but no one said you can't use life energy for strength. in fact thats entirely what Tien does with his TRIBEAM
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Dec 3, 2017 22:34
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Tien is going to be the next person to master UI by purposefully almost killing himself
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Nessus posted:Probably by like, training and meditating rather than trying to do it all in an hour long battle tournament. Well then I guess U11's gonna win.
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Momomo posted:I'm pretty sure this is backwards. They said Namekians broke small pieces off of the Super Dragonballs and that is how they were able to start creating them. I loving hate this and I hope it gets retconned or something. Its like the lamest idea that the writers of DBS could've come up with and makes the Namekians way less cool and unique. "Uh, how do we explain what the Namekian Dragon Balls are, now that we have these Super Dragon Balls? Like, how are they connected?" "Umm...I guess Namekians just stole them or something, I dunno.  "I'm partial to the idea that Zarama* created the Super Dragon Balls and then split himself into a bunch of Namekians who populated Universes 6 and 7. That would explain why they can fuse together and divide themselves into multiple copies naturally: because they were originally all one being. I'm still holding out hope that that's what we find out later on, but i dont hold my breath for it. *edited because i got the name wrong Blue Star fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Dec 4, 2017 |
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with the end of U2 and U6 I think the tournament is about to get serious, since U2 and U6 were challenging but also comic relief
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Current leaderboard: Really points out how little we have left now, with next episode having U4 take on U7, what is U3 even doing right now
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Dec 4, 2017 00:32
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42 knockouts from U7 alone? Christ, I hadn't realized how fast their numbers were climbing.
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Blue Star posted:
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Dec 4, 2017 00:36
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I think she means that Zalama guy.
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Kild posted:uh? Oops, i meant the other one that started with a z Raxivace posted:I think she means that Zalama guy. Thats the one.
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I'm just happy Mr.Piccolo is still in this tournament. He's still in a tier above krillin at least
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pik_d posted:Current leaderboard: I don't even remember the last time we saw someone from U3 besides Pepsiman and the robot that attacked 17 while he was fighting U2.
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Dec 4, 2017 01:05
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didn't notice goku had overtaken vegeta in elims, drat
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Vegeta is driven more than he's ever been in this tournament, fighting not only to save himself and the family he loves, but the world of his apprentice. So it's about time for him to bitch our hard, but at least he's had a good showing. Good on ya Veggie.
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Manatee Cannon posted:didn't notice goku had overtaken vegeta in elims, drat Goku got 5 in the last two episodes while Vegeta stood there like the Second Fiddle he is and watched.
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I can't wait til we find out Freeza's been last hitting all of U7's kills before they poof to get credit for the elimination for the MVP at the end.
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Dexo posted:I can't wait til we find out Freeza's been last hitting all of U7's kills before they poof to get credit for the elimination for the MVP at the end.
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Fartbox posted:I'm just happy Mr.Piccolo is still in this tournament. He's still in a tier above krillin at least Same. It's a shame how low expectations are for Piccolo these days. I would have at least liked a "Wow, you're pretty strong. How many other Namekians are you fused with?" "Two, but one was already me. Let's go with one and a half."
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Blue Star posted:I loving hate this and I hope it gets retconned or something. Its like the lamest idea that the writers of DBS could've come up with and makes the Namekians way less cool and unique. I get your point, but think about it this way: the Universe 7 Namekians, a completely mortal race with no godly qualities whatsoever, managed to, without any outside help (like, say, the Dragon Radar) find at least one Super Dragon Ball, break it (the Dragon Balls are not easy to break, considering they've survived the entire series, and the Super Dragon Balls must be even tougher), take the broken piece and somehow completely reverse engineer it into a whole new set of Dragon Balls. Not only that, they then took their recreated godly technology and used it to raise a selected few of themselves into deities. The Namekians not only copied the gods but became gods themselves (a few, that is, like Kami and Guru). The only other race we've seen that could reach apotheosis were the Saiyans and even there they could only use a god's power, instead of any other useful skills the deities held, and furthermore they're deities for limited amounts of time. The Namekians obtained near-limitless creation power, reaching or surpassing the Kaioshin, the Gods of Creation themselves (not in canon, of course, but they certainly have proven themselves far better at their job) and created permanent deities out of mortals. The Namekians may genuinely be even more awesome after the Zalama retcon.
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the idea that the namekians took pieces of the super dragon balls or w/e doesn't make a whole lot of sense (where did kami's dragon balls come from? he said he made them from scratch to remind him of home...), but as with all of toriyama's shifting perspective on how things work, I just accept the explanation he came up with that I like the most as truth it's not like it'll ever come up again but you know it'll be a different explanation again if it does
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Dexo posted:I can't wait til we find out Freeza's been last hitting all of U7's kills before they poof to get credit for the elimination for the MVP at the end. I suspect at the end Freeza's going to request that the wish goes to the winner of a fight between whoever is left in that universe. It would explain why he's been nudging Goku to work himself to the bone. Also it would be a fun reversal of the Resurrection: F plot, with Freeza now taking extra care not to exert more energy than he absolutely needs to.
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The Namekian Zalara thing is awesome to me, because these D&D motherfuckers were slick enough to steal bits from seven planet balls, make their own balls, and I just assume that the original nameless Namekian had been given emergency shards from the seven Namek balls before being sent off by the disaster to make the Earth ones a- ... Wait a second Piccolo/Kami have the same origin story as Superman how loving many times has he gotten away with this
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Dec 4, 2017 02:05
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Considering the clothes beam (something they have been show to use even as recently as the latest ep) I have always assumed that by examining the shards from the Super Dragonballs the Namekians just learned how to create them from scratch by themselves. Considering the dragons they summon are connected to the creator's life force, that would imply they're just part of the Namekian's body.
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You know give U3 credit where due, even without U7s Protagonist Power they're still currently throwing down in 2nd place
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Momomo posted:Considering the clothes beam (something they have been show to use even as recently as the latest ep) I have always assumed that by examining the shards from the Super Dragonballs the Namekians just learned how to create them from scratch by themselves. Considering the dragons they summon are connected to the creator's life force, that would imply they're just part of the Namekian's body. But then why didn't Gohan's clothes disappear when Piccolo died?
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