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Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

What is this trying to say?

Bombadilillo posted:

A thing always happened?
My take was that this kind of behavior is primitive and something you'd expect from the loving Stone Age -- and even then women would be shocked and appalled by it.
I see it as a callout of the behavior not an attempt to normalize it.

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gowb
Apr 14, 2005

Vib Rib posted:

My take was that this kind of behavior is primitive and something you'd expect from the loving Stone Age -- and even then women would be shocked and appalled by it.
I see it as a callout of the behavior not an attempt to normalize it.

This is the answer and you were much more polite about it than I wouldve been

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

Erenthal posted:

No, each biological or adopted child is entitled to an equal share of the inheritance. If the deceased has a will, say donating everything to their cat, each child is still entitled by law to 50% of the share they would have recieved of the full inheritance had there been no wil.

Is the parent allowed to spend it all, frivolously, just before they die? Like my boomer parents who lucked out and think they earned it and so now they're giving it all away to their new husbands/wives and the casino.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



Look I know only like 5% of political cartoonists can actually draw, but I could do loving better than this with my off-hand.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

Herblocking V

This week — inner cities. Last time we saw that Herblock strongly disapproved of the Black Power movement. Did that animosity extend to the rioters of the late 1960s?

Herblock posted:

5. ...To the City Streets

After the 1967 outbreak of disorders in many American cities, President Johnson appointed a commission to find out what had caused these violent disturbances and how similar eruptions could be prevented in the future.

The group charged with this task issued on March 1, 1968 — four months ahead of schedule, to be of benefit as soon as possible — The Report of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders.

No reader of that report can feel that racial injustices are confined to one section of the country, or that the problems of unrest in the cities can be met cheaply or easily, or simply by greater displays of force.

From the very beginning of its report, the Commission stated the problem in terms that showed a clear determination to "tell it like it is." And, as it mentioned in a section on the causes of violence, "...if we are heedless, none of us shall escape the consequences."

Let us read and heed:

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This is our basic conclusion: Our nation is moving toward two societies, one black, one white — separate and unequal.

Reaction to last summer's disorders has quickened the movement and deepened the division. Discrimination and segregation have long permeated much of American life; they now threaten the future of every American....

To pursue our present course will involve the continuing polarization of the American community and, ultimately, the destruction of basic democratic values.

The alternative will require a commitment to national action — compassionate, massive and sustained, backed by the resources of the most powerful and the richest nation on this earth. From every American it will require new attitudes, new understanding, and, above all, new will.

For any inclined to feel, "Ah yes, we understand; we'll have to do something about that someday," let us read on:

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Segregation and poverty have created in the racial ghetto a destructive environment totally unknown to most white Americans.

What white Americans have never fully understood — but what the Negro can never forget — is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it.

It is time now to turn with all the purpose at our command to the major unfinished business of this nation. It is time to adopt strategies for action that will produce quick and visible progress. It is time to make good the promises of American democracy to all citizens...

...There can be no higher priority for national action and no higher claim on the nation's conscience.

Citing some of these problems that most white Americans have never understood or have ignored, the Commission found that Negroes had fewer years of education than whites, and that education was in inferior schools. Moreover, the prospects for ghetto children have been getting even worse, as they've been falling farther behind white children with each year of school completed.

The educational disadvantages in turn contribute to the fact that a higher percentage of Negroes are unemployed, that they are three times more likely to be in unskilled or service jobs, and that they are more than twice as likely to be living in poverty. The Commission found that "16 to 20 per cent of the total Negro population of all central cities live in poverty in ghetto neighborhoods," and went on:

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Employment is a key problem. It not only controls the present for the Negro American but, in a most profound way, it is creating the future as well. Yet, despite continuing economic growth and declining national unemployment rates, the unemployment rate for Negroes in 1967 was more than double that for whites.

The concentration of Negroes in the cities and the exodus of whites to the suburbs dramatize our extremely split-level society in which an entire section lives in substandard conditions. The report points out that 98 per cent of all Negro population growth is taking place within metropolitan areas, with white populations declining in those areas and with 78 per cent of white growth in the suburbs. Discrimination has, of course, played a large role in this separation.

Here the Negro suffers a double disadvantage. Although the average Negro income is only 70 per cent of that for whites, and although Negroes are jammed into the less desirable city areas, they "pay more for worse housing" — housing that is "three times as likely to be overcrowded or substandard" than white urban housing. And it is still worse compared to housing in the white suburbs.

With a limited selection of places to live and with rent taking a larger proportion of the Negro's income, there is a special cruel greed in the practice of many slum landlords of breaking up apartments into smaller units for rent to Negroes at higher prices. This kind of pressure quite literally creates an explosive situation.

The Commission cited the factors of discrimination and segregation in employment, education and housing; the growing deterioration of facilities and services in the cities in which the Negro poor predominate, while the whites move out; and the ghettos which "converge on the young to destroy opportunity and enforce failure." All these, and particularly unemployment and underemployment, contribute to civil disorder.

"White racism," says the report, "is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II."

With so many unemployed and underemployed, what about our public welfare system? The Commission found that the present system saves neither money nor people. And it turns out that even this welfare system is, in its way, rather exclusive. Why? It excludes many needy who could be more productive if there were some decent base of support; it excludes the millions who are not aged, handicapped or parents of minors. And for those who are "in," the welfare program offers "assistance well below the minimum necessary for a decent level of existence, and imposes conditions that require a continued dependency on welfare..." The Commission then offered some goals for income supplements based on need, but with broader purposes:

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To provide, for those who can work or who do work, any necessary supplements in such a way as to develop incentives for fuller employment;

To provide, for those who cannot work and for mothers who decide to remain with their children, a minimum standard of decent living, and to aid in the saving of children from the prison of poverty that has held their parents.

But the disorders themselves: What about the riots? What about "law and order"? And who's responsible?

The Commission found that those 1967 disorders were not connected with any organized plan or "conspiracy." Besides discrimination, segregation, the ghettos and poverty, other factors contributed to the disorders. These included frustrated hopes, when legislation did not bring equal opportunities, and a climate tending to encourage "violence as a form of protest" — a climate "create by white terrorism... against nonviolent protest" and "by the open defiance of law and federal authority by state and local officials resisting desegregation" (in other words, some of the loudest champions of "law and order").

To these factors can also be added frustrations in achieving justice, and police actions which have come to represent, to many Negroes, white racism.

On the community, and on the police:

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Our investigation of the 1967 riot cities establishes that virtually every major episode of violence was foreshadowed by an accumulation of unresolved grievances and by widespread dissatisfaction among Negroes with the unwillingness or inability of local government to respond....

The abrasive relationship between the police and the minority communities has been a major — and explosive — source of grievance, tension and disorder. The blame must be shared by the total society.

So what about the future? The Commission found we have three choices: One is to continue present policies, which would "make permanent the division of our country into two societies; one largely Negro and poor, located in the central cities; the other predominantly white and affluent, located in... outlying areas." Choice two, which the Commission also found unacceptable, would provide for ghetto enrichment but continued segregation — still a divided country, and one which would not provide equal opportunity for Negroes. It opted for number three, "the only possible choice": ghetto enrichment plus programs to encourage "integration of substantial numbers of Negroes into the society outside the ghetto."

It recommended:

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Opening up opportunities to those who are restricted by racial segregation and discrimination, and eliminating all barriers to their choice of jobs, education and housing.

Removing the frustration of powerlessness among the disadvantaged by providing the means for them to deal with the problems that affect their own lives and by increasing the capacity of our public and private institutions to respond to these problems.

Increasing communication across racial lines to destroy stereotypes, to halt polarization, end distrust and hostility, and create common ground for efforts toward public order and social justice.

I think the term "white racism" which recurred in the report was misunderstood by many who do not think of themselves as active racists, certainly not night-riders, or even "white-backlashers" (of whom there are many who don't actually admit to race prejudice).

The white racism which has bred ignorance and all its attendant consequences among many Negroes has been the result of an ignorance on the part of many whites. They haven't known what life in the ghettos is like. They haven't acted to correct the situations that create impossible pressures, poverty, crime and violence. They haven't been aware of "what's happening" except when those conditions erupt in disorders. These whites then ask: Why don't "they" behave? or Why don't the police, by God, let them know we don't allow such goings-on?

What the Commission said and what those of us who live in the "better sections" had better remember is that "no American — white or black — can escape the consequences of the continuing social and economic decay of our major cities." The only course is "a commitment to national action on an unprecedented scale."

The report concludes: "The destruction and the bitterness of racial disorder, the harsh polemics of black revolt and white repression have been seen and heard before in this country."

"It is time now to end the destruction and the violence, not only in the streets of the ghetto but in the lives of people."

Amen to that.

The report he repeatedly quotes from is the Kerner Report, whose recommendations were immediately implemented summarily ignored. Now here be cartoons.

08-17-65

08-22-65

10-06-65 Think that even today, this would warrant a :drat:.

07-13-66

07-17-66

08-19-66

10-12-66

03-16-67

04-20-67

05-14-67

06-16-67 Sneak preview of next week.

07-13-67

07-18-67 Pretty much. :smith:

07-21-67

07-25-67

07-26-67

07-27-67

08-04-67

08-13-67

08-23-67

09-29-67

11-01-67 P-p-p-paid protesters! :argh:

02-28-68

03-05-68

03-27-68

04-18-68

04-23-68 Hey, it's this guy!

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Next week, Herblock on gun control.

Previous entries: the Johnson administration, the economy, the Vietnam War, civil rights.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

Ranter posted:

Is the parent allowed to spend it all, frivolously, just before they die? Like my boomer parents who lucked out and think they earned it and so now they're giving it all away to their new husbands/wives and the casino.

Spending it all in a casino or expensive trips in a personal spending way? Yeah, probably. But if you donate or give your money or property to others, the children can easily contest that in court and get those gifts reversed in order to get their rightful share.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
What if those people given money and property are their second wives/husbands (not your parent)? Gold diggers, basically.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


Whether Trump benefits from the tax plan or not depends on your perspective.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
These are some naive-rear end cartoons yo

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

Lurdiak posted:

Look I know only like 5% of political cartoonists can actually draw, but I could do loving better than this with my off-hand.

your off-hand need to do a linocut before the final judgment can be made

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Huh. Apparently Stannis can still get an "are you loving kidding me with that bullshit" reaction out of me.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on

You're right. Since a Democrat did something wrong, I should just ignore the Republican party's past and current stance on women's rights. Also ignore the Republican president who bragged about sexually assaulting women.

But yeah, I can't be smug about being morally superior to Republicans anymore because Franken did a bad? Hahahaha yeah right just watch me.

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

hi there, stupid question here... does garrison know trump is fat??

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Finally a Zelda I can relate too.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Dork457 posted:

hi there, stupid question here... does garrison know trump is fat??

He thinks he's owning the libs by drawing him buff because people make fun of him for it all the time.

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

Republicans posted:

He thinks he's owning the libs by drawing him buff because people make fun of him for it all the time.

hmm lemme work on something...

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Dork457 posted:

hi there, stupid question here... does garrison know trump is fat??

he claims that it triggers democrats when he draws trump handsome. so basically this comic

imo the more buff and handsome he draws trump, the more it emphasizes the difference between real-trump and garrison-trump, but hey, i'm not the artist

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001



gimme a break here

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

drat, an unironical #NotAllMen

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Feb 15, 2016

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Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

Is he asking for thermonuclear weapons?

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP


Is this the first cartoon in the thread to remark on a war crime tribunal suicide?
Because youd think poo poo like that would attract more opinions because its war drama as gently caress

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Okay, I legitimately can't tell if this is a scathing parody or painfully sincere. Like, showing someone praying for a pedophile in front of a golden idol representing a man who is the antithesis of what Jesus said you should be is a brutal attack, but at the same time I could see a lot of Christians unironically behaving this way or making something like this. I want to think it's parody, but some part of me feels sure that it's entirely sincere.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Oh hey, computer history! Something I know about!

Republicans posted:

So did this guy actually invent e-mail or did he "invent" e-mail the same way Al Gore "invented" the internet?

Yes I know Al Gore never said he did shut up.

Neither. The first informal 'drop a file where they'll find it' messages were in 1961 or 62 as CTSS started to be a thing at MIT, with the first formal intra-computer mail system in 1965, also on CTSS). The first inter-computer system was in 1971, either Ray Tomlinson's work on TENEX or something at MIT on MULTICS, at which point ARPANET was already a thing and was already the target environment, and the @ symbol was already used to notate that someone wasn't a local user. RFC 733, a direct ancestor of the current format for email was published in 1977, two years before Ayyadurai's work, and contains provisions for pretty much all of the things he claims make his work the 'real' invention of email.

That's not to say he didn't build one of the early email systems - he absolutely did, and some of the surviving documentation is of keen interest for how computing was starting to change businesses that weren't all about it - but a claim of 'invented email' is simply not supported.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Roland Jones posted:

Okay, I legitimately can't tell if this is a scathing parody or painfully sincere. Like, showing someone praying for a pedophile in front of a golden idol representing a man who is the antithesis of what Jesus said you should be is a brutal attack, but at the same time I could see a lot of Christians unironically behaving this way or making something like this. I want to think it's parody, but some part of me feels sure that it's entirely sincere.

Okay, I legitimately can't tell if your post is a scathing parody or painfully sincere. Like, showing someone posting about an obvious satire of the hypocrisy of Alabaman fundamentalists supporting Roy Moore and acting as if it's in any way unclear should be a brutal example of sarcasm, but at the same time I could see a lot of D&D posters unironically missing the point or willfully not getting it. I want to think it's parody, but some part of me feels sure that it's entirely sincere.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Roland Jones posted:

Okay, I legitimately can't tell if this is a scathing parody or painfully sincere. Like, showing someone praying for a pedophile in front of a golden idol representing a man who is the antithesis of what Jesus said you should be is a brutal attack, but at the same time I could see a lot of Christians unironically behaving this way or making something like this. I want to think it's parody, but some part of me feels sure that it's entirely sincere.

Signe Wilkinson is a left leaning cartoonist for sure.



EimiYoshikawa posted:

Okay, I legitimately can't tell if your post is a scathing parody or painfully sincere. Like, showing someone posting about an obvious satire of the hypocrisy of Alabaman fundamentalists supporting Roy Moore and acting as if it's in any way unclear should be a brutal example of sarcasm, but at the same time I could see a lot of D&D posters unironically missing the point or willfully not getting it. I want to think it's parody, but some part of me feels sure that it's entirely sincere.

:jerkbag:

Go away.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Dec 4, 2017

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zesty posted:

Signe Wilkinson is a left leaning cartoonist for sure.



Thanks; that's what I was thinking, but, as I said, I could honestly see people unironically doing that so I wasn't sure..

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Zesty posted:

Signe Wilkinson is a left leaning cartoonist for sure.




:jerkbag:

Go away.

Why would I do that? I mean, I just had a really nice lol in this thread just a few posts ago.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Zesty posted:

:jerkbag:

Go away.

Come on, Roland was being pretty dumb there.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Zanzibar Ham posted:

Come on, Roland was being pretty typical of this thread there.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.
I would just like to apologize if I made anyone feel bad, I was genuinely puzzled and questioning whether Roland's post was serious or some 5th layer satire for a good ten seconds, then I saw how their post about the comic could be really easily rewritten to apply to their own post, and thought it'd be a nice harmless chuckle for us all to share. I didn't mean any offense.

I'll try to be less insensitive in the future. Geez, that sounds like sarcasm, but it really isn't, I'm being genuine here.

Sorry.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm fine, personally. (Well actually I'm sick and on medicine that has me really drowsy really often, but whatever.) Just, yeah. Not used to relative subtlety in the comics here, so while I got the intended message I wasn't 100% sure; I've seen worse and more blasphemous takes made in complete seriousness by the right, and I didn't recognize who it was right away, so it wouldn't have surprised me to learn it was sincere.

Edit: Basically anywhere else, and I'd have taken it as satire right away. Here, though...

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Dec 4, 2017

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

JerikTelorian
Jan 19, 2007



Bad Reporter never fails to get a hearty chuckle from me. Panel 1 is excellent.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.
Panel 2 got a sizeable chuckle out of me, too. Honestly, Melania's christmas decorations have been the only good thing to come out of D.C. this year (indictments aside).

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

I didn’t even know Lauer had hair. :stare:

He looks like loving Scott Walker in that shot ahaha.

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