|
Log082 posted:Just so everyone knows: WitP AE is on sale for $30.00 (!) I have never thrown money at something faster or with less thought than I just did
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 05:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 00:26 |
|
|
Kodos666 posted:well, the allied clocked in 117 ops-losses, some carriers must be either sunk or incapable of air-operations. None destroyed on field suggests the latter.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 05:57
|
|
|
I think some extremely groggy players manage to have the KB survive the war by basically abusing the hell out of the AIs worst habits. Grey's done well while keeping it fair!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 06:02
|
|
|
Maybe you could play like the Kaiser and keep them in harbor for the entire war?
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 06:06
|
|
|
Turns like this are all the sweeter for all the nonsense and drudgery this game puts you through.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 06:14
|
|
|
probably the only accurate take on warfare in a game, tho large amounts of boredom and drudgery, with the occasional burst of absolute terror
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 06:58
|
|
|
Well, we have to realize this was a glorious victory. It wasn't without loss...we lost some good men out there, and at times, the future seemed to be in doubt. And, I admit, we had losses. Mopre than we should have! But still, everyone will remember, this is the day the war changed, and that our ultimate victory would be assured. So, cheer up, everyone, because we....oh, wait, we're playing as the Japanese. Well, carry on.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 07:05
|
|
|
The great Marshall Islands turkey shoot
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 07:55
|
|
|
Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, this day was always going to happen. I have lasted a year and a half longer than real life Japan before getting my fleet carriers sunk, and they have done a lot of damage since. But there was no realistic way the Butai's were going to make it to the end of the war. The Kido Butai is still mostly undamaged! Unless you're foreshadowing here... 
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 09:10
|
|
|
Quickly, invade the Soviet Union
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 10:34
|
|
|
The KB still lives but drat at those airframe losses, but now is the time to take the offensive and regain momentum. The invasion of Pearl is now essential.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 12:59
|
|
|
Take Pearl Harbor!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 16:07
|
|
|
c'mon next update!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 16:13
|
|
|
RA Rx posted:Take Go big or go home. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 16:15
|
|
|
Jobbo_Fett posted:
For my next ship I'll take the Lexington II. (I'm doing this to jinx that ship. Expecting a new  in a few days.)
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 16:27
|
|
|
Aww yiss! I'd watch a movie about that battle!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 18:23
|
|
|
   The guns continue to do their work.  Somebody can still get planes into the air!  Our attack confirms all three Essex class afloat.   Things get quiet.  I have to report the loss of the Kaga. This is not surprising, as she was burning stem to stern yesterday – I just need to catch those US carriers and make good on my losses!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 18:43
|
|
|
All afloat, not on fire. gg, close
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 18:45
|
|
|
two_step
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 18:53
|
|
|
Diminuendo after the big battle, maybe this Spruance turned east as well?
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 19:51
|
|
|
"If we let in enough water it will extinguish the fires" - Chief damage control officer, IJN Kaga
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 19:56
|
|
|
This game always highlights just how impossible Japan's victory really was.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 20:39
|
|
|
TildeATH posted:This game always highlights just how impossible Japan's victory really was.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 21:09
|
|
|
Ograbme posted:The victory point section of the rulebook for Fire in the Sky concludes with "Whichever player wins the game, Japan loses the war". Considering the strikes launched today and their operational losses yesterday it would seem that the carriers have very few planes left to launch, so a strike with your battleship (without the Katori dear god) or cruiser task forces might be catch them while they are still relatively weak.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 21:37
|
|
|
I think we should forget this day happened and save scum the gently caress out of that battle.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 21:44
|
|
|
Ron Jeremy posted:I think we should forget this day happened and save scum the gently caress out of that battle. I'd be cool with an bonus post where he does that until he wins, just to see a) how many times it takes for that to happen b) what that would look like
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 21:58
|
|
|
Grey Hunter posted:Our attack confirms all three Essex class afloat.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2017 23:45
|
|
|
eyyyy damage control
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 01:53
|
|
|
Time for the
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 03:56
|
|
|
wiegieman posted:eyyyy damage control Preparing for fires reduces our
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 04:29
|
|
|
alright I caved and bought this game even though I literally have no idea what's going on. Banzai!
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 04:41
|
|
|
Well, those ships were living on borrowed time and we knew it. Grats on doing better than historical, I guess it's time to make the Allies suffer for their poor AI as long as possible?
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 04:59
|
|
|
For those of you picking up WiTP in the sale: Good basic guide written by a goon whose name I can't recall: https://pastebin.com/C7tri1w0 Yamato Damashii map mod (What Grey is using): http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3696410 Turn 1 set up up guide (Allies): http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2564541 Turn 1 set up guide (Japan): http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3253803 WiTP tracker: https://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/home Some general FAQ/New player help threads: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2260137 http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2576157
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 06:16
|
|
|
Ikasuhito posted:Go big or go home. Is it actually possible to land troops in California? What can high level players accomplish in this game?
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 07:05
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:Is it actually possible to land troops in California? What can high level players accomplish in this game? Pretty sure that triggers instant huge American armies that there's no way the Japanese player can defeat.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 07:16
|
|
|
It's pretty much literally impossible to hold any part of the mainland US for more than a week or two, but IIRC it can still be worth an invasion because you can permanently destroy specific critical factories or something.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 07:19
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:Is it actually possible to land troops in California? What can high level players accomplish in this game? It triggers an unmanageable number of American armies to spawn. Worth doing for some extremely gamey reasons, but so crazy and chancy that no one does it in a regular multiplayer game.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 07:20
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:Is it actually possible to land troops in California? What can high level players accomplish in this game? Yes, it's technically possible. The ultimate in cheese strategy - land troops in the locations on the west coast that have aircraft factories. When you control those hexes, the factories are converted into generic industry. While the allies still get non-factory replacement, it's greatly diminished for those plane types. Then you withdraw. The downside is that Patton spawns with a massive army. Holding positions in Continental US is impossible. I've only heard about this tactic on paper, though. I've never seen it talked about as if someone actually accomplished it. It would only really be possible after smashing up the AI a lot, and it would be easier to just go for autovictory with an Australian or Indian campaign against the AI. As for other cheese strategies: - Multi-day Pearl Harbor - Hit the American carriers on the way back from Pearl; their positions are known and their pathing predictable - Take Vancouver Island and start Strategic Bombing CONUS - Blitz Karachi via naval invasion and then patrol the Aden -> Karachi shipping route to clown the British reinforcements that spawn in Aden when you do so - Invade Hawaii by diverting troops meant for the Philippines - Total victory in China through careful ground force composition management (Grey's pretty close here but took too long) None of this is actually viable in Human vs Human though, except multi-day Pearl which is usually banned with house rules. Instead you get things like the Mersing Gambit, various bypasses to claim things like the DEI in the first few turns, Fortress Singapore, Fortress Palembang, huge gambles on operations like Hawaii Invasion, crazy fuel trains that give the KB a completely ahistorical reach even farther than Pearl and the Indian Ocean Raid, New Zealand conquest, fighting up to Bombay in India, fighting up to Adelaide and Melbourne in Australia, tens of thousands of late-war high-skill planes for Fortress Japan, Hokkaido invasion 1943, Vancouver Island landings, and the Niipon Panzer Corps. The craziest thing I ever read about was a successful Hawaii invasion and then turned it into Fortress Hawaii as the grave of dozens of American fleet carriers trying to take it back, but that was in the previous version of the game before Admiral's Edition.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 07:56
|
|
|
What's Niipon Panzer Corps?
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 08:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 00:26 |
|
|
RZApublican posted:What's Niipon Panzer Corps? Stacking up all of Japan's tank units in one place. Usually for a push across the Australian outback or through the Chinese heartland.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2017 08:16
|
|