Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Loxbourne posted:

Ah, the "secret agents for big publishing" conspiracy theory is back. Where would we be without citizens' imaginations?

I don't believe they believe it, I believe they feel that they SHOULD believe it like a good little cultist.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 18:50

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# ? May 21, 2024 11:52

Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

SCtrumpHaters posted:

He says that every 6 months.

Any of you FUD sippers (colloquial term) have anything to say aobut this being the best anniversary sale ever? Its not even over yet.

I'm a fud packer

# ? Dec 4, 2017 18:51

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

OhDearGodNo posted:

It�s why I made it- more of a quick response to the common quip from shitizens.

A hero we all need.

OhDearGodNo posted:

It�s not hard to see this getting exponentially worse as they dump iteration upon iteration on it. Even if SQ42 were to release, they will have a huge number of problems associated with every patch.

No, it's not. They're tacking on new production pipelines with the abandon of someone who's planning to leave in a week.

Loxbourne posted:

Ah, the "secret agents for big publishing" conspiracy theory is back. Where would we be without citizens' imaginations?

You're either with them or you aren't. It's a very easy world to imagine because any dissenter is _obviously_ a goon Smart alt.

Solarin posted:

I'm a fud packer

I'm a FUD packer's mate, and I'm only packing FUD because the FUD packer's late.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 18:52

Toops: Nov 5, 2015; -find mood stabilizers
-also,

Daztek posted:

those all had big studios already, CIG started from scratch and needed 4 years to build their studios so development of Squadron 42 only really started in 2016, furthermore

Star Citizen Defense Playbook:

Timeline Criticisms:

CIG had to build a company from scratch, including hiring, building studios around the globe, etc.
R&D doesn't count.
All those games had engines already made. CIG is building their engine from scratch. It is called "Star Engine."
Those other games actually started development and R&D way before those dates, don't you know anything?
Star Citizen already has way more content than any of those games.
Star Citizen is doing something that literally no one has ever attempted before. Ground-breaking innovations take time.
Those games are bad because money-grubbing publishers forced them out the door before devs could make them into something good. Star Citizen doesn't have publishers, and no deadlines, so this means Star Citizen will be better.
This new era of gamers are impatient little bitches. I don't mind the wait, I have patience. I keep pledging so Chris Roberts will have as much time as he needs to recognize his vision.

Bugs, Lack of Content Criticisms

Star Citizen is more transparent than any other company, ever. You're seeing how the sausage is made.
There is way more content than they are showing us because they don't want to spoil it.
What are you talking about? I just spent <X> hours playing the game it's great/runs great/no bugs/perfectly smooth/amazing.
You obviously don't understand game development. Bugs like this are totally normal for a game in this stage of development. Have you ever heard of Alpha??
Don't be a part of early access if you can't handle some bugs.
All of those things you just listed are on the schedule, they will be delivered in <patch number>
They are doing a lot of the ground-work tech / pipelines that will pave the way for faster content creation later.
Oh, they already have the tech for <most of new feature that came out of nowhere>, it's not much effort to add.

Funding Model, Sales, Marketing Criticisms

Star Citizen is doing something different. They are bypassing the greedy publisher model only cares about profit and kills innovation.
Nobody is forcing you to pledge.
I backed the game because I believe in Chris Roberts's vision, it's the game I've always dreamed of playing.
All the ships that can be bought can be acquired in-game, therefore not pay-to-win.
The game does not have subscriptions. You can subscribe to help pay for weekly content which gives us insights into game development never before seen.
You're not buying land! You're buying the ability to claim land. Huge difference.
It's not a scam. They have offices all over the world and the game is playable right now.
CIG is not in any kind of financial trouble, just look at the funding tracker.

General Rebuttals

Why are you even commenting if you hate the game so much? What kind of sad person just goes around tearing things down?
Oh look, another Derek Smart alt trying to spread lies and mis-information about Star Citizen because he's jealous.
Known troll/goon. Downvote and move on.
How many AAA games have YOU released?
You are entitled to NOTHING.
Even if the game never comes out, I�m proud to be a part of it, at least Chris is trying.

e: added a couple, including the all-important �You are entitled to NOTHING.�

Toops fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Dec 4, 2017

# ? Dec 4, 2017 18:57

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

Toops posted:

Star Citizen Defense Playbook:

Timeline Criticisms:

CIG had to build a company from scratch, including hiring, building studios around the globe, etc.

R&D doesn't count.

All those games had engines already made. CIG is building their engine from scratch. It is called "Star Engine."

Those other games actually started development and R&D way before those dates, don't you know anything?

Star Citizen already has way more content than any of those games.

Star Citizen is doing something that literally no one has ever attempted before. Ground-breaking innovations take time.

Those games are bad because money-grubbing publishers forced them out the door before devs could make them into something good. Star Citizen doesn't have publishers, and no deadlines, so this means Star Citizen will be better.

This new era of gamers are impatient little bitches. I don't mind the wait, I have patience. I keep pledging so Chris Roberts will have as much time as he needs to recognize his vision.

Bugs, Lack of Content Criticisms

Star Citizen is more transparent than any other company, ever. You're seeing how the sausage is made.

There is way more content than they are showing us because they don't want to spoil it.

What are you talking about? I just spent <X> hours playing the game it's great/runs great/no bugs/perfectly smooth/amazing.

You obviously don't understand game development. Bugs like this are totally normal for a game in this stage of development. Have you ever heard of Alpha??

Don't be a part of early access if you can't handle some bugs.

All of those things you just listed are on the schedule, they will be delivered in <patch number>

They are doing a lot of the ground-work tech / pipelines that will pave the way for faster content creation later.

Oh, they already have the tech for <most of new feature that came out of nowhere>, it's not much effort to add.

Funding Model, Sales, Marketing Criticisms

Star Citizen is doing something different. They are bypassing the greedy publisher model only cares about profit and kills innovation.

Nobody is forcing you to pledge.

I backed the game because I believe in Chris Roberts's vision, it's the game I've always dreamed of playing.

All the ships that can be bought can be acquired in-game, therefore not pay-to-win.

The game does not have subscriptions. You can subscribe to help pay for weekly content which gives us insights into game development never before seen.

You're not buying land! You're buying the ability to claim land. Huge difference.

It's not a scam. They have offices all over the world and the game is playable right now.

CIG is not in any kind of financial trouble, just look at the funding tracker.

General Rebuttals

Why are you even commenting if you hate the game so much? What kind of sad person just goes around tearing things down?

Oh look, another Derek Smart alt trying to spread lies and mis-information about Star Citizen because he's jealous.

Known troll/goon. Downvote and move on.

How many AAA games have YOU released?

Bookmarked for later use

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:00

Toops: Nov 5, 2015; -find mood stabilizers
-also,

Daztek posted:

Bookmarked for later use

I probably missed some, but that's the Minimum-Viable-Response-List (MVRL).

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:01

Loxbourne: Apr 6, 2011; Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

SomethingJones posted:

I don't believe they believe it, I believe they feel that they SHOULD believe it like a good little cultist.

I think it's so popular because it explains away something painful - they keep hearing the same scorn and disdain. The same arguments. They go out to spread the word on reddit or forums or wherever and they run right into people laughing and calling it a cash grab and bringing up the framerate and the clipping issues and P2W balance and the absurd pricing. Arguments a good citizen has already dismissed from his mind long ago.

Either Star Citizen has such obvious unaddressed flaws that anyone can see them on a cursory glance, or there's a vast conspiracy to spread lies and FUD that's always one step ahead of the faithful, handing out talking points.

No contest, right?

A backer looks out over the ramparts and tells himself what he sees is an organised, marching horde who all turn as one to mock him on the command of a hidden Dark Master. What he's actually seeing is a load of entirely unconnected passersby suddenly staring at this guy and wondering why he's wearing a clown suit.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:01

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Nyast posted:

So what's up with the alleged 3-dozen layoffs ? I thought a blog or more news was incoming ?

You fell for the thread version of selling space land.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:02

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Toops posted:

I probably missed some, but that's the Minimum-Viable-Response-List (MVRL).

You've some solid material up there for an updated SC bingo card.

I guess this one is still mostly relevant with the exception of SC being in development for so long that people aren't laughing at TOR anymore.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:04

Kilmers Elbow: Jun 15, 2012

Chris Robert's Proud Backers.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:05

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:06

Loxbourne: Apr 6, 2011; Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Toops posted:

Excellence

An excellent post from an excellent poster.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:08

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Mirificus posted:

"What is the definition of a libellous statement, Alex"

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:12

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Matt_Daymun has to be a troll account.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:13

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

Beexoffel posted:

This is very good

But where's the original stimpire version :argh:

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:19

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

Griefing a Star Citizen server with cargo

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousVictoriousSnakeKappaRoss

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:27

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I guess no one at CIG ever heard of bookmark bombs.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:28

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Daztek posted:

Griefing a Star Citizen server with cargo

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousVictoriousSnakeKappaRoss

It sickens me he could have had a Hull-C to carry his rape victims.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:32

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Combat Theory posted:

This is very good

But where's the original stimpire version

Need more stamina.
This was just a tribute / attempt.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:36

SCtrumpHaters: Oct 28, 2017; by Nyc_Tattoo

big nipples big life posted:

Matt_Daymun has to be a troll account.

Hes a famous permabanned poster

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:37

SCtrumpHaters: Oct 28, 2017; by Nyc_Tattoo

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7hisyt/interesting_reviews_for_cig_as_an_employer_to_say/
Bunch of secure citizens here

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:38

intardnation: Feb 18, 2016; I'm going to space!

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

I'm gay.

that explains the cob

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:39

Wise Learned Man: Apr 22, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

Bofast posted:

Star Citizen - From dreams to dust

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Stupid Crowdfunding Accomplishment Mausoleum > Star Citizen: Assets to ashes, dreams to dust

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:42

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

SCtrumpHaters posted:

Hes a famous permabanned poster

niggerstomper58?

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:42

VictorianQueerLit: Aug 25, 2017

Mirificus posted:

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:48

SCtrumpHaters: Oct 28, 2017; by Nyc_Tattoo

big nipples big life posted:

niggerstomper58?

I said poster not legend

# ? Dec 4, 2017 19:53

Zzr: Oct 6, 2016

PederP posted:

In my son's social sciences class they got asked to give examples of out-of-the-ordinary internet communities for study (and the teacher asked them to please not pick 4chan). As the good boy he is, he mentions "the fans of that scam game, Star Citizen", which was immediately met by "that's not a scam! what proof do you have?" from someone in his class. Turns out he's got a cultist in his high school class. I'm prepping him to mention Derek Smart in any remotely relevant context. This could be good.

It's a perfect opportunity to read stimpire.txt in front of his class.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:03

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

You could also spice up his science class by discussing the worst kinds of electricity.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:04

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Toops posted:

Star Citizen Defense Playbook:

Timeline Criticisms:

CIG had to build a company from scratch, including hiring, building studios around the globe, etc.

R&D doesn't count.

All those games had engines already made. CIG is building their engine from scratch. It is called "Star Engine."

Those other games actually started development and R&D way before those dates, don't you know anything?

Star Citizen already has way more content than any of those games.

Star Citizen is doing something that literally no one has ever attempted before. Ground-breaking innovations take time.

Those games are bad because money-grubbing publishers forced them out the door before devs could make them into something good. Star Citizen doesn't have publishers, and no deadlines, so this means Star Citizen will be better.

This new era of gamers are impatient little bitches. I don't mind the wait, I have patience. I keep pledging so Chris Roberts will have as much time as he needs to recognize his vision.

Bugs, Lack of Content Criticisms

Star Citizen is more transparent than any other company, ever. You're seeing how the sausage is made.

There is way more content than they are showing us because they don't want to spoil it.

What are you talking about? I just spent <X> hours playing the game it's great/runs great/no bugs/perfectly smooth/amazing.

You obviously don't understand game development. Bugs like this are totally normal for a game in this stage of development. Have you ever heard of Alpha??

Don't be a part of early access if you can't handle some bugs.

All of those things you just listed are on the schedule, they will be delivered in <patch number>

They are doing a lot of the ground-work tech / pipelines that will pave the way for faster content creation later.

Oh, they already have the tech for <most of new feature that came out of nowhere>, it's not much effort to add.

Funding Model, Sales, Marketing Criticisms

Star Citizen is doing something different. They are bypassing the greedy publisher model only cares about profit and kills innovation.

Nobody is forcing you to pledge.

I backed the game because I believe in Chris Roberts's vision, it's the game I've always dreamed of playing.

All the ships that can be bought can be acquired in-game, therefore not pay-to-win.

The game does not have subscriptions. You can subscribe to help pay for weekly content which gives us insights into game development never before seen.

You're not buying land! You're buying the ability to claim land. Huge difference.

It's not a scam. They have offices all over the world and the game is playable right now.

CIG is not in any kind of financial trouble, just look at the funding tracker.

General Rebuttals

Why are you even commenting if you hate the game so much? What kind of sad person just goes around tearing things down?

Oh look, another Derek Smart alt trying to spread lies and mis-information about Star Citizen because he's jealous.

Known troll/goon. Downvote and move on.

How many AAA games have YOU released?

You are entitled to NOTHING.

Even if the game never comes out, I�m proud to be a part of it, at least Chris is trying.

e: added a couple, including the all-important �You are entitled to NOTHING.�

That is all, replace r/starcitizen with this.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:05

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

PederP make sure you provide an ample amount of G0RF charts and the jpeg factory Album to little goon. Also cat pictures

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:06

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Scruffpuff posted:

The thing that separates the land sales is how fundamentally divorced it is from the original concept of a space shooter game, and how far it is from implementation compared to just selling another ship they won't build. The land sale requires just scads and scads of completely nonexistent features, not planned or designed in any way, certainly not coded. That's the most suspicious part of it from my perspective.

It's like CIG has shifted again from selling the game CR originally envisioned, then they started selling new feature creep and that changed the game's direction, and now the "planned" game is being designed around what they think they can get away with selling.

This is all part of their gradual shift from �trying to make a game to make money� to �making a game to make money� scene, where in the latter heavily starts feeling scammy.

They are years away from even a decent space game, a decade away from a good space and ground game that has at least as much content as any Mass Effect game. Over a decade away from a point where they can somehow organize an mmo with player land owning mechanics with actual functionality.

They may as well start selling buildings and businesses like factories on land and in space. They are making things up in the worst possible way: by marketing.

They have already gone down the road of land sales, so they can just go anywhere from there. Nothing is off limits. Anybody even making estimates needs to consider �and what can the sell that can�t possibly exist next?� before they make a guess, because the CIG way has no scruples.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:11

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Dusty Lens posted:

You could also spice up his science class by discussing the worst kinds of electricity.

Bonus points if one his classmates was born on July 14th. Imagine doing that live demonstration.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:12

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Colostomy Bag posted:

Bonus points if one his classmates was born on July 14th. Imagine doing that live demonstration.

They don't allow them to play with mercury anymore. Not succumbing to mercury poisoning was character building back in my day.

Deskeletonisation equipment might be fine.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:24

Golli: Jan 5, 2013

Colostomy Bag posted:

Bonus points if one his classmates was born on July 14th. Imagine doing that live demonstration.

<ahem>
Here is my report on the Star Citizen community of backers. They are the community that wrote this. I will read it to you verbatim, and let you decide.

stimpire.txt

/mic drop

A+++++++++

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:25

SPERMCUBE.ORG: Nov 3, 2011; Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

SCtrumpHaters posted:

Hes a famous permabanned poster

FUDstomper42

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:32

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Golli posted:

<ahem>
Here is my report on the Star Citizen community of backers. They are the community that wrote this. I will read it to you verbatim, and let you decide.

stimpire.txt

/mic drop

A+++++++++

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:33

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:37

BeigeJacket: Jul 21, 2005

Mirificus posted:

Next time one of you replies to Matt Dahmun refer to Braben exclusively as 'David Braben OBE'.

It's the most minor of titles, but it'll send him crazy. Crazier.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:40

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

Did the same over the weekend given winter is supposed to arrive this week. Only in my case it was a Stag AR, Marlin Model 60, and my Walther P22 with a can. The Walther is the hardest to shoot well. Lots of air in those sights. The Stag AR is accurate enough, I have a 5MOA red dot on it so not set up to be a precision weapon, but the Model 60 is dead on accurate even with a cheap 4x scope.

I used to do my long range shooting with the M1903, but I'm to the point where I can't see the bullseye at 100 yards without magnification anymore.

Yeah it was a lot of fun. I�m not like a sharpshooter or a sniper. If I can blow up a can at 50-100 yards I�m usually pretty tickled.

I�d like to be able to hit further, but I�m bad at getting zeroed in on a distance target and usually I can�t even find what I hit with a shot, so it�s just tough to get there. But I�m not out there doing competitions or anything.

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:40

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# ? May 21, 2024 11:52

Foo Diddley: Oct 29, 2011; cat

Mirificus posted:

SPACE AND PLANETS AND WALKING AND SHIPS WITH INTERIORS have never been done before and you have NO HONOR and NO RIGHT to an opinion if you think otherwise

# ? Dec 4, 2017 20:42

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