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Traditional media is stupid and has a habit of letting itself get pulled around by the nose when Right Wing media decides to fabricate stories so it's probably a valid concern.
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Alter Ego posted:Eh, who cares. I haven't seen this story outside of Fox and Breitbart. Hewitt's editorial was on WaPo, tho.
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Radish posted:Traditional media is stupid and has a habit of letting itself get pulled around by the nose when Right Wing media decides to fabricate stories so it's probably a valid concern. Their contempt for Trump and the underlying fact that a) Mueller fired this guy for anti-Trump texts and b) the story hasn't shown up anywhere credible except as a "hey, look at how Fox is furiously humping this coconut" piece tells me that this probably won't be the case this time.
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Radish posted:Traditional media is stupid and has a habit of letting itself get pulled around by the nose when Right Wing media decides to fabricate stories so it's probably a valid concern. I just get a bad feeling about the story. Like, it's not mainstream yet, but it seems like something that could catch on and work. The Hewitt op-ed was WaPo, so it's not just on RWM anymore. Was wondering if I was being Arzy-ish about it. Edit: On cnn now: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html AhhYes fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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canepazzo posted:Hewitt's editorial was on WaPo, tho. It's an editorial; it doesn't represent the views of the reporters or the editors of the paper. And Hugh Hewitt is a known piece of poo poo.
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This is going to be fun: Three Obama tweets, no Trump posts make list of 2017’s most retweeted
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Alter Ego posted:Their contempt for Trump and the underlying fact that a) Mueller fired this guy for anti-Trump texts and b) the story hasn't shown up anywhere credible except as a "hey, look at how Fox is furiously humping this coconut" piece tells me that this probably won't be the case this time. Good. canepazzo posted:This is going to be fun: It's extra sad considering the bot army pumping up all his dump tweets. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Data Graham posted:How on earth is it not possible to outwit these people They have the votes.
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TyrantWD posted:Roy Moore winning is the best case scenario. If Doug Jones wins, McConnell hands out one less hall pass, and Luther Strange returns to the seat in 3 years. Moore on the other hand can serve as a Pelosi-like bogeyman to the half of the country that aren't right-wing lunatics.
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CyberPingu posted:It was a plot point in The Departed. It's a plot point in so many movies and shows because it's a very old and very common counter intelligence technique.
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canepazzo posted:This is going to be fun: Quality over Quantity. Edit: To be extra specific, Obama's tweets are good quality tweets and there are way fewer of them. Trump's are... not.
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I mean other than backstabbing & firing low-level staffers, what would a private counter-intel group be able to actually accomplish? lovely as Sessions may be, I'm having quite the conundrum trying to reconcile DoJ lawyers being prosecutorial toward intelligence/fed law enforcement because Trump's idiot squad say so.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I mean other than backstabbing & firing low-level staffers, what would a private counter-intel group be able to actually accomplish? lovely as Sessions may be, I'm having quite the conundrum trying to reconcile DoJ lawyers being prosecutorial toward intelligence/fed law enforcement because Trump's idiot squad say so. It's just an example of someone thinking that a job is really easy to do because they don't know what that job actually entails. So Trump thinks he can just set up an intelligence agency with no problem, because he had no idea what that means.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I mean other than backstabbing & firing low-level staffers, what would a private counter-intel group be able to actually accomplish? lovely as Sessions may be, I'm having quite the conundrum trying to reconcile DoJ lawyers being prosecutorial toward intelligence/fed law enforcement because Trump's idiot squad say so. It’s probably just something Trump is petulantly demanding without thinking, and technically it may be within his power to request so his staff is trying to figure out how to get him thinking about something else, or how to convince him that they did what he wanted. The answer is that it wouldn’t and couldn’t work, and nobody who isn’t a ratfucking snake would want anything to do with Trump at this point anyway.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I mean other than backstabbing & firing low-level staffers, what would a private counter-intel group be able to actually accomplish? lovely as Sessions may be, I'm having quite the conundrum trying to reconcile DoJ lawyers being prosecutorial toward intelligence/fed law enforcement because Trump's idiot squad say so. Given how they have been treating people recently, I would imagine that it is less of an active thing and more of a history-trawling squad. No one is perfect and they already have been tricking corps into firing employees for decade-old satire, because the Left has gone into overdrive with their purge. Its probably less of a criminal action organization and more of a PR hit squad, basically.
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Handsome Ralph posted:It's a plot point in so many movies and shows because it's a very old and very common counter intelligence technique. Frankly, it might just be indistinguishable from reality right now.
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https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/937975040632553472 Get. The gently caress. In.
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Your Taint posted:https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/937975040632553472 Yeah he sent the request in 7 weeks ago so i assume he already has all the information he needs from them. Surprised we havnt seen any Donnie meltdown tweets yet as he said he'd "End Mueller" if he went after his finances.
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JazzFlight posted:I'd love it if their plan is to tell everyone below them incorrect information, but instead of it being used to find a leak, it just continues to make everything hosed up because no one knows what's going on anymore. It’s like a game of “telephone” with middle-schoolers: by the time the message gets to the end, it’s nothing but the words “penis” and “boobs” shouted unintelligibly.
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I didn't see this posted: GOP bill would eliminate student loan forgiveness for public service Because of course they would.
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RiggenBlaque posted:I didn't see this posted: Most of the more recent GOP bills seem to be designed to create an underclass that can only escape poverty and/or get an education through military service. Which makes sense considering an armed services poll mentioned that education benefits are like 80% of the reason why servicemen and women are in the military to begin with.
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Your Taint posted:https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/937975040632553472 Still.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jY_bCvNZ0o
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Your Taint posted:https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/937975040632553472 Unfortunately I think Deutsche bank can just tell Mueller to gently caress off
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Withnail posted:Unfortunately I think Deutsche bank can just tell Mueller to gently caress off They have 50 us locations, they can’t ignore a subpoena .
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Withnail posted:Unfortunately I think Deutsche bank can just tell Mueller to gently caress off
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If he sent in the request 7 weeks ago shouldn't Trump have already fired him?
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Withnail posted:Unfortunately I think Deutsche bank can just tell Mueller to gently caress off the only reason a 7 week old request is a news story is that they've complied and been speaking off the record to that effect, Mueller has everything.
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Radish posted:If he sent in the request 7 weeks ago shouldn't Trump have already fired him? Unless Trump didn't find out 7 weeks ago
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TheKingofSprings posted:Unless Trump didn't find out 7 weeks ago Very likely. Mueller has proven very competent when it comes to keeping things under wraps. The Flynn stuff came out of nowhere.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Unless Trump didn't find out 7 weeks ago Anything the public knows is stuff that is already discussed and leaked by the WH or has been kept under wraps for a news story release.
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RiggenBlaque posted:I didn't see this posted: Idk if it's a bad thing. This year is the first year after a decade that people are eligible for student loan forgiveness and, surprise, loan companies find loopholes that prevent that from happening.
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Withnail posted:Unfortunately I think Deutsche bank can just tell Mueller to gently caress off Deutsche Bank has a pretty big business portfolio in the US for corporate banking, wealth management, etc. Pissing off the FBI is a pretty bad deal for them, considering that the FBI and DOJ could make running business in the US absolute hell for them. If the FBI finds that Donnie was laundering illegal funding from the Russians through DB, Mueller may be waving the word “RICO” in front of their faces and waiting for them to poo poo their trousers.
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"Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it seven weeks ago."
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RiggenBlaque posted:I didn't see this posted: Fun fact: this utterly fucks over resident physicians, especially those who are planning on being PCPs, general practitioners, hospitalists, intensivists, or, really, anything besides highly over-paid specialists. Med school debt is so high in part because it comes with the promise of high wages (and it does) but residents earn basically gently caress-all. Their hourly rate is absurdly low given what they do: while they make an average of 50k/year pre-tax, they're working between 60-80 hours for huge chunks of that time, giving them an hourly wage that's as low as 13/hr. That doesn't count the fact that they're often on-call and responsible to outpatient clinic pages without being able to bill for those hours. So, ability to pay at around 250k in med school loans, plus undergraduate loans, is somewhat limited, and everyone I know has to take income-based repayment at least during their residency. Yes, attending salary is quite a bit better: but some of the costs of med school are predicated on the fact that people are absolutely gunning for the high-paying positions. One of the hardest specialties to get into is plastic surgery because of the salary, while general practitioner, which is essentially the most important as far as health outcomes for the country go, get much less and so is very easy to get into. Its somewhat mitigated by the public loan forgiveness program: unless a plastic surgeon works in a burn ward (and not a private, lucrative clinic) they won't be eligible for the forgiveness, but GPs would be. Personally, I'd rather not have this weird system where we massively dissuade people from going into general practice right at the same time we're facing a significant shortage of GPs, but that's me. (Or maybe we should, since I'm an NP student and the NP system is growing so rapidly because of the lack of physicians) Also terrible for a ton of nurses, respiratory therapists, counselors, social workers, NPs, and probably several other sectors I think are crucial to a functioning healthcare system and society like teachers, obviously, but the GOP never pretended to care about them. They, at least in theory, pretend to care about the doctors. e: Blitz7x posted:Idk if it's a bad thing. This year is the first year after a decade that people are eligible for student loan forgiveness and, surprise, loan companies find loopholes that prevent that from happening. And no, I'm not on this plan. I chose not to take it because I wasn't sure it'd still exist when it became time to benefit, because even 5 years ago I trusted the GOP to be a bunch of backstabbing assholes. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Twerk from Home posted:What's the betting odds on Mueller being killed vs fired? 
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Roland Jones posted:I wonder if anything in particular prompted them returning to Moore, or they just decided that they don't think it'll hurt them after all. Maybe after how close taxes were already and knowing they'll need to vote again (because the cocked everything up) they decided that they can't afford to lose the seat to Jones, even if it means being the pedophile party? Well, the race in Alabama was going neck and neck which says to Republicans "no one cares", and Trump endorsing him leaves them little choice. The party of family values seems to not have an issue with kiddie diddling...unless it's the other side that does it
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