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As I was writing it I was thinking about the Always Sunny scene where they keep asking "who's the mark?" and "who are we versus?"
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I don't know how subtle exactly it is for the age group because I was in my 20s when it first aired, but in Filmore!, which is a buddy-cop series set in a middle-school that takes it's junior law enforcement (literal hall monitors) overly seriously, the Principal is named Principal Folsom. When the kids are being sent to the principal's office to be expelled or otherwise punished, in the metaphor they are going to Folsom Prison. 
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think Landa needs to feel like he's winning, and everything, every interaction, every conversion he needs to be beating someone or outsmarting them or manipulating them in some way. He revels in hunting humans, and he revels in toying with them before he kills them. The fun part is we've all known people like this, and they are absolutely insufferable. Now imagine one with a license to kill.
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Olive! posted:What's his SA username? Landa always goes Godwin on people. 
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The entirely of Landa's character is contained in that clip from earlier. Look at how delighted he is at guessing the background of Aldo's mission correctly, and then look how his face falls when he realizes that Aldo is just a rube in a uniform and he hasn't been matching wits with an equal adversary. (Which is also the point where he should have realized Aldo is anything but certain to honor a gentlemen's agreement.)
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Any theories on Landa's seeming affection towards his radioman that the Basterds kill? That's the only person Landa appears to care about. Or was he just afraid he was going to share the same fate?
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Krispy Wafer posted:Any theories on Landa's seeming affection towards his radioman that the Basterds kill? That's the only person Landa appears to care about. Or was he just afraid he was going to share the same fate? Nah, if they were gonna shoot him they wouldn't have bothered with the cuffs or keep talking to him at all imo. He's a man of his word and is shocked that Aldo is breaking parts of the deal he made with Aldo's superiors. Landa: "You'll be shot for shooting a prisoner!" Aldo: "Don't think so, I'll get a chewing out, I've been chewed out before. But they don't give a gently caress about him, they want you." (Paraphrased)
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Samovar posted:He did a drat good turn as Rictus Erectus. It was perfect in every way?
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Landa's basically a case of not realising what kind of movie he's in. Or how much people have come to really, really hate the Nazis. He thinks his daring adversaries will respect his chutzpah and... well, forgets he's a Nazi.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Landa's basically a case of not realising what kind of movie he's in. Or how much people have come to really, really hate the Nazis. He thinks his daring adversaries will respect his chutzpah and... well, forgets he's a Nazi.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Which in turn might be a clue about what the movie thinks of its heroically characterized Germans. Yeah QT (ew... worst abbreviation) had a ton of fun with it. I don't know if it's my favorite of his but it doesn't deserve the hate the nerds online give it.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Yeah QT (ew... worst abbreviation) had a ton of fun with it. I don't know if it's my favorite of his but it doesn't deserve the hate the nerds online give it. People hate Inglorious Basterds? It's Brad Pitt's finest role and taught me the things you do and don't do in a basement.
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Krispy Wafer posted:People hate Inglorious Basterds? Welcome to Trump's America. Where any movie portraying Nazis as bad is oppressive media and is flawed in its very thinking.
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I KEEP FORGETTING THAT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW. 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Yeah QT (ew... worst abbreviation) had a ton of fun with it. I don't know if it's my favorite of his but it doesn't deserve the hate the nerds online give it. I'm willing to say it is my favorite. The scene between Landa and Shoshanna where he orders her milk and she screams internally is maybe the best single scene of his career. Honestly Landa is probably some of the best synergy between writer, actor and character he's had.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I'm willing to say it is my favorite. The scene between Landa and Shoshanna where he orders her milk and she screams internally is maybe the best single scene of his career. That scene is doubly impressive when you realize that kosher whipped cream wasn't around yet, so that cream wasn't kosher. Cool whip and the like are kosher, but they weren't invented until after the war. That would have been actual whipped cream which would have been impossible to have been made in a kosher facility. She had to eat it in order to maintain her cover, but by doing so she was violating Kashrut dietary law.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Landa's basically a case of not realising what kind of movie he's in. Or how much people have come to really, really hate the Nazis. He thinks his daring adversaries will respect his chutzpah and... well, forgets he's a Nazi. Landa is also fundamentally a game theorist. He relies on putting people in positions where the only logical course of action is to give him what he wants. Unfortunately for him Aldo is more than happy to suffer negative consequences himself in order to see Landa get what's coming to him. Which is exactly where game theory falls apart.
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jabby posted:Landa is also fundamentally a game theorist. He relies on putting people in positions where the only logical course of action is to give him what he wants. Unfortunately for him Aldo is more than happy to suffer negative consequences himself in order to see Landa get what's coming to him. Which is exactly where game theory falls apart. He should've taken some basic behavioral economics. Experiments show people would rather gently caress over themselves + someone else rather than let the other person get preferential treatment.
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bamhand posted:He should've taken some basic behavioral economics. Experiments show people would rather gently caress over themselves + someone else rather than let the other person get preferential treatment. Yeah. When somebody's given a choice of either getting $1 while somebody else gets $10, or having both of them receive nothing, they almost universally choose the nothing option.
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gently caress that guy.
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MichiganCubbie posted:That scene is doubly impressive when you realize that kosher whipped cream wasn't around yet, so that cream wasn't kosher. Cool whip and the like are kosher, but they weren't invented until after the war. That would have been actual whipped cream which would have been impossible to have been made in a kosher facility. I'm far from being an expert in religious dietary law, but surely it is just something she would need to atone in some small way about later, or use as an experience to strengthen her ties to God? It's not like eating non-kosher sends her straight to hell or requires a blood sacrifice.
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bamhand posted:He should've taken some basic behavioral economics. Experiments show people would rather gently caress over themselves + someone else rather than let the other person get preferential treatment. rydiafan posted:Yeah. When somebody's given a choice of either getting $1 while somebody else gets $10, or having both of them receive nothing, they almost universally choose the nothing option. Yeah "Screw you, you don't deserve that" is the flipside of "gently caress you, got mine."
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Gromit posted:I'm far from being an expert in religious dietary law, but surely it is just something she would need to atone in some small way about later, or use as an experience to strengthen her ties to God? It's not like eating non-kosher sends her straight to hell or requires a blood sacrifice. quote:The principle of Pikuach Nefesh, the preservation of human life, takes precedence over just about every other Jewish law (the exceptions are worshipping idols, murdering and forbidden sexual relations). A Jew is not only allowed to break another Jewish law to save a life — he or she is required to do so. Same as not keeping Halal if you're Islamic. You can eat it if it means survival, you just have to make atonement afterwards.
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Similarly bullets covered in pigs blood wouldn't matter because it's not like they think it's magic liquid that corrupts their souls. Involuntary contact doesn't count.
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Memento posted:Same as not keeping Halal if you're Islamic. You can eat it if it means survival, you just have to make atonement afterwards. Gromit posted:I'm far from being an expert in religious dietary law, but surely it is just something she would need to atone in some small way about later, or use as an experience to strengthen her ties to God? It's not like eating non-kosher sends her straight to hell or requires a blood sacrifice. Absolutely, but it would catch her off guard. It was another of Landa's games.
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Memento posted:Same as not keeping Halal if you're Islamic. You can eat it if it means survival, you just have to make atonement afterwards. I thought Islam also had a rule "eat it if would cause offence to refuse, and just pray a little more later"?
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What if you have to worship another idol or you’ll be killed
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Escobarbarian posted:What if you have to worship another idol or you’ll be killed Wikipedia page on Pikuach nefesh posted:Sins that involve Chillul Hashem (the defamation of God's name) may not be committed even to save one's life. These include idolatry, blasphemy, or denial of God's existence. So if you keep to it, if someone puts a gun to your head and says "call god a motherfucker" then your obligation is to not do that and take a bullet to the dome.
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I mean yeah that's what martyrdom is.
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Escobarbarian posted:What if you have to worship another idol or you’ll be killed Don't worry about it; you'll be all right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadrach,_Meshach,_and_Abednego
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MichiganCubbie posted:Absolutely, but it would catch her off guard. It was another of Landa's games. It's not just that it's not kosher, it's implying that Landa remembers her from the dairy farm. Also, as a Jew, I don't think whipped cream is non-Kosher anyway. It's just cream and sugar, as long as it's not being paired with meat, it's totally fine.
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Yeah I was confused about that as well. My guess is that contemporary pre-made whipped creams would contain gelatin, but you can literally just stir heavy cream really fast and sweeten it.
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jabby posted:Landa is also fundamentally a game theorist. He relies on putting people in positions where the only logical course of action is to give him what he wants. Unfortunately for him Aldo is more than happy to suffer negative consequences himself in order to see Landa get what's coming to him. Which is exactly where game theory falls apart. I mean, the whole point of the Basterds is that they're expendable and off the grid to the point of willing to be suicide bombers and their entire shtick is war crimes to terrorise and brutalise the Nazis. It's a kind of warfare that's as old as time but established states still can never quite wrap their heads around, and the Nazis are all about their rules and decorum.
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The Basterds and Linda are two sides of the same coin: both collect "trophies", both love the thrill of the hunt, both are doing something they love/excel at regardless of doctrine/party-line, both are conniving and malevolent, etc., etc. Sure, one is brash and reckless while the other is calculated and orderly but their similarities far outweigh their differences. It's almost as if that was some kind of film-making trope.
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Memento posted:Same as not keeping Halal if you're Islamic. You can eat it if it means survival, you just have to make atonement afterwards. I had a Jew tell me the one exception is cannibalism, can't do that to save yourself. But I haven't looked it up to be sure.
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Rewatched The Two Towers Extended Edition tonight. While I'd hold Fellowship as the best adaptation of LOTR, Two Towers is by far the best movie in the trilogy from a cinematic standpoint, and I say that including the changes made to Faramir's character.The undercurrent in the film concerning the devastating effects of war cannot be praised enough. One thing I noticed this time around was that the boy Aragorn takes the sword from, Haleth, says he is Hama's son. As in, the Hama who had been eaten earlier in the film by a warg. But what I do want to talk about is Faramir. The biggest criticism of the film is the side trip to Osgiliath, and I understand that from a book purist's perspective. However, it does not bother me, because I can see that Jackson wanted to draw a parallel between Rohan and Gondor, and tie that into Faramir's parallels with Boromir. Now in the books, Faramir rejects the ring immediately, proving that men can and are still an honorable race that can withstand the corrupting power of evil. In the film, he is tempted, and nearly fails, but finally resolves to let the hobbits go. I actually like the struggle Jackson gives to Faramir in the movie, as I believe that showing his ability to overcome his selfish desires rather than rejecting them outright gives him more depth. Thematically, it makes both him and Boromir closer, but it also mirrors the fate of Rohan, as Theoden spends the entire film resigned to death, until he finally snaps out of his fatalism and resolves to make a stand. There is also the case for him paralleling Eowyn's role in the film, as both are second children and have issues with their father figures. While Theoden's relationship issue comes from his own fatalism and desire to keep Eowyn safe, Denethor is actively hostile. But what is important is that both father figures create a reaction in their children, and a desire to prove themselves. And by the end, both Faramir and Eowyn are made better by making their own decisions and learning to live beyond the whims or well meant smothering of their father figures. It is just a goddamn good movie, and unlike Return of the King, it feels like it deserves to be four hours long. King still has great moments, but it dives into excess way too often, and is where I officially mark the point that Hollywood began the obnoxious trend of dragging out single story films into two-part snorefests. Arc Hammer has a new favorite as of 05:14 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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WampaLord posted:It's not just that it's not kosher, it's implying that Landa remembers her from the dairy farm. The pastry has meat in it I presume.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The pastry has meat in it I presume. Apple strudel? What kind of apple strudel you been eating?
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I could see there being lard, but yeah I don't know where that's coming from.
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