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cowofwar posted:So a doctor has to live like a grad student and put half their salary in to their debt repayments for five tears before it’s payed off and they can live like a king, so what? At that point, for certain specialties, it's a better financial decision to be a nurse, PA, or NP. A Pediatrician Infectious Disease or Endocrine doc in NYC gets paid like $130-150k starting. That's at age 31 or 32 if they go straight through medical school. If they have $500,000 in debt, they wont finish paying off that debt until 40 or 45.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What could they have that might be damning? deutche bank is the only bank in the entire loving world that will lend to trump, and presumably they're interested in finding out why and if they're just a conduit for russian oligarchs if trump org relies on loans that are controlled by russian oligarchs then they have massive leverage over him and paints the picture of how he has been controlled by russia
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What could they have that might be damning? Two fewer zeros than Trump claims.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Wouldn't they use some secret Swiss bank for that? Swiss banks also have agreed to divulge account information to U.S. investigators now. There are no more secret accounts like that.
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GWBBQ posted:Conyers retiring today.  Now let's see the same from Franken.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Wouldn't they use some secret Swiss bank for that? the us government got UBS's nuts in a vise and started spinning a few years ago and basically all of the swiss banks then suddenly decided they didn't want any more american customers (for any of their secret stuff). the US controls too much vital parts of the global banking network to risk pissing off the DOJ so once the DOJ got pissed off, they got out of that business
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evilweasel posted:he finds these people in alabama, duh Did you know that Oregon was founded as a white utopia???
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sean10mm posted:Every Mueller investigation story is like this: WampaLord posted:
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glowing-fish posted:Did you know that Oregon was founded as a white utopia??? i did but as a northeasterner that just lets me lord over the wrong coast when they try to act superior
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Your son can gently caress off. Dynastic poo poo needs to die. I like how he thinks his endorsement is something any politician might want. You just got hounded out of office for being a creeper, why would anyone trust your judgement?
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Gort posted:I like how he thinks his endorsement is something any politician might want. in a house district, it's very likely it is. local machine politics are a very real thing in house districts that are very strongly one party
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Sweevo posted:Two fewer zeros than Trump claims. Honestly, that would probably hurt him more than any indictment. He can lawyer up and outlast most anything and his supporters don't care. But if they found out he had significantly less money than he claimed, suddenly he's not this great businessman. It's highly unlikely to be true, but the low end estimates of Trump's net worth after liabilities were 300 million dollars.
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cowofwar posted:So a doctor has to live like a grad student and put half their salary in to their debt repayments for five tears before it’s payed off and they can live like a king, so what? e: Lote posted:At that point, for certain specialties, it's a better financial decision to be a nurse, PA, or NP. A Pediatrician Infectious Disease or Endocrine doc in NYC gets paid like $130-150k starting. That's at age 31 or 32 if they go straight through medical school. If they have $500,000 in debt, they wont finish paying off that debt until 40 or 45. And remember, I only focused on doctors because they're the ones the GOP might actually be interested in working with. Social workers, therapists, and nurses are already scum in their eyes. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Ravenfood posted:No, dumbass, its because we're already having trouble finding GPs because nobody in med school wants to do it or thinks its financially viable. Removing one of the things that might help people go into those specialties is a bad thing. So is restricting access to med school to already-wealthy people, for what should be obvious reasons. Yes, eventually they do end up well-off, but I'd rather have actual loving doctors around to work in actual loving hospitals instead of having everyone pour into fancy clinics for rich white people, and I'd rather not push the best and brightest of the field that direction either. also i really don't have a problem with doctors being paid well. doctor training is no loving joke, and it's something that is unambiguously good for society. you want to get mad at people who get paid well for doing nothing useful for society, wall street is right there nobody has ever said "you know what we need less of? doctors" but we could use about 50-80% less well-educated intelligent people getting diverted to gambling on wall street
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evilweasel posted:i did but as a northeasterner that just lets me lord over the wrong coast when they try to act superior Have you ever considered that smug white liberals are the REAL racists? And that you can earn woke points by loudly repeating this fact?
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Lote posted:At that point, for certain specialties, it's a better financial decision to be a nurse, PA, or NP. A Pediatrician Infectious Disease or Endocrine doc in NYC gets paid like $130-150k starting. That's at age 31 or 32 if they go straight through medical school. If they have $500,000 in debt, they wont finish paying off that debt until 40 or 45. That's astounding. You can get $150k in NYC for normal-rear end jobs. The young doctorin I've heard about is more like "$300k in debt, $350k first year after residency or fellowship" which seems like a much saner number. I guess you just need to go into money specialities.
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Sir Lemming posted:So does Trump setting up a shadow government mean he doesn't believe Obama did that? I'm so confused He's setting up a shadow government to combat Obama's secret government. To normal people this is a sign of mental insanity
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Twerk from Home posted:That's astounding. You can get $150k in NYC for normal-rear end jobs. The problem is people need those less well paying specialties regardless of what is lucrative. Demand doesn't just drop for those types of doctors, and there is already a shortage.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Honestly, that would probably hurt him more than any indictment. He can lawyer up and outlast most anything and his supporters don't care. But if they found out he had significantly less money than he claimed, suddenly he's not this great businessman.
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glowing-fish posted:Did you know that Oregon was founded as a white utopia??? Of all the posters out there you might be the one with the least claim to the moral high ground in a discussion of how you shouldn't smugly claim your region is morally more pure than other regions
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Twerk from Home posted:That's astounding. You can get $150k in NYC for normal-rear end jobs. medicine is very odd in that the pay scales negatively to cost of living: the shittier the area and the lower the cost of living, the higher the pay. nyc doctors are probably the lowest paid doctors in the country. that's in contrast to almost every other sort of job where the higher the cost of living, the higher the pay. the reason is that doctors have to be spread out over the entire country, you can't have all the doctors in new york like you can with all the corporate lawyers and wall street people
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Twerk from Home posted:That's astounding. You can get $150k in NYC for normal-rear end jobs.
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Twerk from Home posted:That's astounding. You can get $150k in NYC for normal-rear end jobs. Depends on where you want to live. California and NYC are very in demand places. Doctors there make much less or need to commute to the suburbs. Very few medicine, family practice doctors or pediatricians are making $350k out of residency, and if they do, it's in a very rural area. Only in the very competitive sub-specialties like Surgery, Cardiology, or Dermatology do you see $350k starting in a major city. It also depends on which medical school you go to. The most expensive one is Georgetown or George Washington in DC. Tuition alone is $60,000 per year. Lote fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Deutsche was fined at the beginning of the year for turning a blind eye on suspicious transfers of money out of Russia (to the tune of billions of dollars). I don't remember exactly what it was, but I only read about it a few months ago because of some (probably tenuous) connection to Trump.
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evilweasel posted:medicine is very odd in that the pay scales negatively to cost of living: the shittier the area and the lower the cost of living, the higher the pay. nyc doctors are probably the lowest paid doctors in the country. It's really one of the few well-paying professions that is based off of strict supply/demand - absolutely necessary to have - must be local, cannot be outsourced - huge barriers to entry - used by everyone Entirely possible that you can end up as the only -ologist in a 100 mile radius in places. It's less of a case of money and more that someone who went through med school doesn't want to spend the rest of their lives in Bumfuck, IL, population 150.
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CyberPingu posted:Yeah he sent the request in 7 weeks ago so i assume he already has all the information he needs from them. Likely not because it shows Russian ties, but because it shows all those "great deals" he's bragged about in the past were really just poo poo deals that cost double or more than he claimed
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glowing-fish posted:Did you know that Oregon was founded as a white utopia??? Not to mention that here in the NYC area we have no shortage of brain dead townie 'republican' shitbirds, they're just a slightly different brand of spectacular racism that has a very strong white sub-ethnic slant to it. Some of the Italians from NYC I've met put any hillbilly racist KKK bro to shame....and I've lived in both the north and south.
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evilweasel posted:deutche bank is the only bank in the entire loving world that will lend to trump, and presumably they're interested in finding out why and if they're just a conduit for russian oligarchs Was Kushner actually involved with Trump-co or were his real estate dealings completely separate?
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Not to mention that here in the NYC area we have no shortage of brain dead townie 'republican' shitbirds, they're just a slightly different brand of spectacular racism that has a very strong white sub-ethnic slant to it. its important that we have our share of republican shitbirds to horrifically outvote them so less of our votes are wasted and to scorn them in person
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evilweasel posted:god i hope this hearing is public, federal judges getting very very angry, as long as its not at me, owns Isn't avoiding a media spectacle what this whole thing is about?
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evilweasel posted:god i hope this hearing is public, federal judges getting very very angry, as long as its not at me, owns What are the potential repercussions for violating a gag order?
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evilweasel posted:deutche bank is the only bank in the entire loving world that will lend to trump, and presumably they're interested in finding out why and if they're just a conduit for russian oligarchs Their US operation is also shady as gently caress and got hit with a bunch of violations of the Bank Secrecy Act and anti-money laundering regulations a few years back I think. I think there was a public settlement. May have been someone else though.
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Shifty Pony posted:Was Kushner actually involved with Trump-co or were his real estate dealings completely separate? he has his own company which, i believe, he has run into the ground so severely that the only hope of them staying solvent was if a rich foreign sovereign wealth fund wanted to invest without, and i quote, "an expectation of profit" but for some reason every time they think they've got one on the line, the press starts asking questions like "so what is it, exactly, you're looking to get out of this" and the money scuttles off to find a less well-lit hole
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There Bias Two posted:What are the potential repercussions for violating a gag order? Ask Jonathan Pollard how it worked out.
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There Bias Two posted:What are the potential repercussions for violating a gag order? you have personally pissed off a federal judge who is busy ruling on your bail conditions where they have virtually unfettered discretion especially once you prove you're untrustworthy, so getting your bail revoked and spending a year+ in the slammer you'd have instead spent wearing suits in your nice house
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