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It would be cool to agree to split California in two, only to ratfuck the republicans who supported the proposal by carefully gerrymandering it into two solid blue states.
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Weren't people just recently horrified at the concept of Republicans packing the court?
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Dec 5, 2017 18:08
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The real lock in is make PR a state, maybe make Guam a state. For some reason I think it would require an amendment to subdivide California into two states. We should combine the Dakotas while we're at it.
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Dec 5, 2017 18:08
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I look forward to a future with a hundred SCOTUS justices and every US county becoming its own state.
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Dec 5, 2017 18:09
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In the midst of state restructuring confusion Alabama attempts to merge with itself.
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Dec 5, 2017 18:12
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Rinkles posted:Weren't people just recently horrified at the concept of Republicans packing the court? Politics is a contest between opposing interests. It’s really clear that nothing the dems do will stop the GOP from pursuing their agenda with zero regard for ethics. There’s nothing to be gained from keeping the gloves on here.
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Shifty Pony posted:Right. His business deals have been so sketchy and he's so desperate for money that I thought maybe he had turned to Trump to arrange stay-afloat funding (and the true source of that funding). Seems like Kushner's financial information would be pertinent to the investigation because Kushner keeps "forgetting" financial ties to overseas organizations on his security clearance forms. I would go as far as to posit that he's such a complete and utter dipshit that he doesn't understand all the aspects of the business deals he's in. He really is the perfect example of someone being born fortunate and failing upwards....Probably why Trump and him fit so well. They're both utter failures compared to the guys that had to lay the foundation for them even to exist. And it's not like Fred Trump and Charles Kushner didn't have help from someone who came before them either but at least they were able to make hay. Donnie and Jared are, ostensibly even inside the context of their own family histories...utter and complete failsons.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:In the midst of state restructuring confusion Alabama attempts to merge with itself. Roy Moore votes against, but leaves open the possibility of merging with a newly formed state.
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The next Democrat that gets in to the White House unironically needs to make Erik Prince disappear for the good of mankind. Roland Jones posted:I wonder if anything in particular prompted them returning to Moore, or they just decided that they don't think it'll hurt them after all. Maybe after how close taxes were already and knowing they'll need to vote again (because the cocked everything up) they decided that they can't afford to lose the seat to Jones, even if it means being the pedophile party? It was always the GOP's plan to go back to supporting Roy Moore, just like they did with Trump after the Access Hollywood tape. Winning is the only thing that matters for them. Wait until the focus and fury dies down, then go back in and fully support them for the last push of the race because most voters ultimately won't give a poo poo beyond "my team won" a week later. farraday posted:https://twitter.com/TheBFRoom/status/938081586360315904 Oh cool, Kennedy's going to walk back his tolerance for gay people.  evilweasel posted:nope, just the consent of the california legislature. Dividing up a state in to multiple states requires the federal government to ok it as well. The GOP would never be ok with having two Californias because they wouldn't be able to rig the split in a way to be a net gain for themselves.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Remember when Trump was going to bring peace to the middle East? welp. if they do that it's intifada time :|
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evilweasel posted:he finds these people in alabama, duh turns out she's from ohio e: also turns out she was the founder of ReaganBook lmao https://www.thedailybeast.com/reaganbook-is-the-latest-conservative-fail boner confessor fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Rinkles posted:Weren't people just recently horrified at the concept of Republicans packing the court? WMDs are horrifying, but when one side is using them on you, its pretty understandable to want to respond in kind. Note: I'm not saying we should, but there's a reason people could be without being hypocritical about it. McConnell has already decided against overruling the parliamentarian (which he can do) because he knows that if he does, the filibuster is de facto dead and he doesn't want that. I firmly believe that his refusal not to do so is a tactical, not ethical, decision.
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ReidRansom posted:Roy Moore votes against, but leaves open the possibility of merging with a newly formed state. More likely they annex the Florida panhandle directly south of Alabama(again), and accidentally turn Florida irrevocably blue by taking lots of its most Republican voters.
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Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day O’Connor are better regarded by “moderates” and liberals than they deserve to be due to the terrible Scalia spawn that have followed. The state of the Court is in large part due to their incredibly reliable adherence to Republican objectives. Those two are pretty detestable too.
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Reading those arguments and statements by Kennedy, it is really really not looking good. gently caress.
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Dec 5, 2017 18:28
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Reading those arguments and statements by Kennedy, it is really really not looking good. gently caress. Like he's literally making a "tolerate the intolerance" argument and it's pissing me off something fierce. Hope the Colorado chapters of the Church of Satan find some way to make this blow up in everyone's faces.
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American Christians are the literal worst.
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In response to Robert Mueller violating President Trump's financial "red-line" Trump has announced airstrikes for tomorrow targeting a parking structure outside the FBI field office in Newark, New Jersey.
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novamute posted:In response to Robert Mueller violating President Trump's financial "red-line" Trump has announced airstrikes for tomorrow targeting a parking structure outside the FBI field office in Newark, New Jersey. Having been to Newark, that'd probably be a civic improvement project.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:American Christians are the literal worst. I believe they are now one of the most powerful, organized, and awful heresies in the existence of the Christian religion.
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axeil posted:Hm. There is none, which is why it is an extremely sketchy road to go down. I still tend to favor very specific and targeted court-packing: a law specifying that there shall be two new justices and that the law shall expire on Gorush's resignation or death, but it is still likely that would wind up in a cycle of tit-for-tat court packing or just make decisions where those two justices flipped it considered illegitimate by conservatives, and that is a price you can't avoid. The best solution by far is retaking the Senate in 2018 and Kennedy then resigning and refusing to confirm a new person, but that's not too likely.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Dividing up a state in to multiple states requires the federal government to ok it as well. The GOP would never be ok with having two Californias because they wouldn't be able to rig the split in a way to be a net gain for themselves. the federal government has to approve anything that involves new states, that goes without saying. the assumption is democrats have control and can admit new states without GOP votes.
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Angry_Ed posted:Like he's literally making a "tolerate the intolerance" argument and it's pissing me off something fierce. Hope the Colorado chapters of the Church of Satan find some way to make this blow up in everyone's faces. quote:But later, Kennedy asked Colorado Solicitor General Frederick Yarger, representing the state, about a statement by a member of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission who noted that religious beliefs had in the past been used to justify other forms of discrimination, like slavery and the Holocaust. It is, the commission member contended, “one of the most despicable pieces of rhetoric that people can use their religion to hurt others.” If we thought that at least this member of the commission had based his decision on hostility to religion, Kennedy asked Yarger, could the judgment against Masterpiece stand? Kennedy returned to this idea again a few minutes later, telling Yarger that “tolerance is essential in a free society.” But Colorado, Kennedy posited, hasn’t been very tolerant of Phillips’ religious beliefs in this case.
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My deepest fear between now and the new Congress getting sworn in is that RBG passes away. It'd be just swell if she gets replaced by a 45-year old who thinks that the Dred Scott decision wasn't that bad, actually, if you study the underlying legal principles.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Reading those arguments and statements by Kennedy, it is really really not looking good. gently caress. Isn't Kennedy the one who makes arguments he doesn't actually agree with just to see how people rebut it? Devil's advocate and all that
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Farchanter posted:My deepest fear between now and the new Congress getting sworn in is that RBG passes away. It'd be just swell if she gets replaced by a 45-year old who thinks that the Dred Scott decision wasn't that bad, actually, if you study the underlying legal principles. You are not alone in any way in this worrying. It has kept me up for months.
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axeil posted:Isn't Kennedy the one who makes arguments he doesn't actually agree with just to see how people rebut it? Devil's advocate and all that Farchanter posted:My deepest fear between now and the new Congress getting sworn in is that RBG passes away. It'd be just swell if she gets replaced by a 45-year old who thinks that the Dred Scott decision wasn't that bad, actually, if you study the underlying legal principles.
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axeil posted:Isn't Kennedy the one who makes arguments he doesn't actually agree with just to see how people rebut it? Devil's advocate and all that yeah, but Kennedy is also very libertarian so "let the free market decide" is something that has appeal to him while squashing government discrimination
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The fact that judges are a lifetime position seems to be a mistake just on the fact that it means the court will always be conservative just due to the rapidly increasing speed of social and technological advancement. I feel like that might have initially been a feature not a bug but at this point...
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mistaya posted:The fact that judges are a lifetime position seems to be a mistake just on the fact that it means the court will always be conservative just due to the rapidly increasing speed of social and technological advancement. historically judges moved liberal, actually, it infuriated the republican party so much that they have this insane vetting apparatus to make sure their judges won't become sane once on the supreme court that isn't needed for democrats because the reverse has basically never happened non-politics nerds would mostly have been shocked to know souter was appointed by a republican souter, o'connor, and kennedy were all republicans who very definitely were not what they were hoping for
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Amidst the mind-numbing horror of Twitter my feed showed me this: https://twitter.com/MrPaulDuane/status/937737135595184129
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evilweasel posted:historically judges moved liberal, actually, it infuriated the republican party so much that they have this insane vetting apparatus to make sure their judges won't become sane once on the supreme court that isn't needed for democrats because the reverse has basically never happened even roberts has drifted leftward over his tenure
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:even roberts has drifted leftward over his tenure yeah cause bush made the mistake of appointing someone unquestionably qualified, everyone respected roberts as a lawyer even those who hated his politics that's why you get the jokers like alito and gorush instead who aren't self-reflective enough to ever consider deviating from republican orthodoxy
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/938099236679405569?s=17 This is really going to be a disaster
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Dick Trauma posted:Amidst the mind-numbing horror of Twitter my feed showed me this: Finally, a journalist willing to ask the tough question we were all asking, instead of coddling the ruling class!
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Ok so what is the significance of us moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?
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And then the next year the government implodes and markets crash because no one adjusted spending to reflect reduced tax money in the government. Sure, we need another depression/government shutdown
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So Trump has announced that he is starting the 4th Intifada? And my idiot aunt and uncle are gonna claim this is good for 
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Dick Trauma posted:Amidst the mind-numbing horror of Twitter my feed showed me this: We regret to inform you that the cat is racist.
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Your Taint posted:Ok so what is the significance of us moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem? It's a giant rear end gently caress You to Palestine.
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