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Filthy Monkey posted:Appreciate it sir. Just wanna make sure you're aware that when it says Specialist it doesn't necessarily mean "good at pushing" or "push hero". Nazeebo's strength comes from a power jump at 7 and 10, but mostly 20. You'll often see Nazeebo's "go afk" in lane because they're working towards their Vile Infection quest at 20 so it might seem like Nazeebo's strength is his ability to push lanes and do siege damage. I think it's important to have a lot of focus on building stacks but Nazeebo is way too strong to not participate in objectives barring some 20 minion push from an off lane.
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Nazeebo can also kinda just fire and forget. Dumping his Q and E on a fresh lane and then mounting up to another one or to participate in the objective is a good habit to get into. Even if you haven't filled your stacks, you've still helped push the lane out.
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Yo is performance based MMR coming out tomorrow? Catch me in Hero League getting Gold because of dummies though.
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Dick Burglar posted:I really like most of that new Zarya skin but the awful Warcraft-y BOOM TITTIES POPPIN OUT boobplate really turns me off. ngl did not see a zarya skin in that entire video. Macaluso posted:Overwatch characters I can see them adding in the future: Doomfist, Sombra, Mei, Orisa, Reinhardt, Winston, Symmetra, Moira and Zenyatta. Of those, I think Winston would be the one that people would hate the most cause his jump would piss people off. Maybe Doomfist would have a similar problem. Mei might possibly be a longshot just because the way her gun works in Overwatch would be way too strong in Heroes. Sombra could have a potential escape similar to Tracer but hers would require aiming her thing so I think she wouldn't be as bad. I assume Reaper would have an innate based on dealing damage when you're closer to enemies or something. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Dec 5, 2017 02:47
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Gobbeldygook posted:I really doubt they're going to roll out fundamental gameplay changes two weeks before the end of the season. I think we're getting Hanzo tomorrow and that's it. You're right. I was a dumb-dumb. Official word is "Extended PTR" for the gameplay update, and tomorrow would be normal PTR length of time. It's also called a 2018 gameplay update, so I guess we wait 
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Soldier 76 is what Jimmy should be.
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lucifirius posted:Soldier 76 is what Jimmy should be. I'd prefer 76 to be similar to Jimmy, and rework Jimmy into something like this.
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You want him to be a summoner whose heroic is one third of timewalker's pursuit?
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No Wave posted:You want him to be a summoner whose heroic is one third of timewalker's pursuit? Not exactly as is, but the idea of Raynor leading around a squad of dudes is very thematic (also I really like summoners and am disappointed that Blizz wants to move away from them v  v)
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mah gawd ZJ isn't as good as he was but once those stacks come in, he's STILL what you need on a daily basis
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Dear idiot pubbies: when I use stim drone on you that's your cue to run towards the enemy, and not away 
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ugh its Troika posted:Dear idiot pubbies: when I use stim drone on you that's your cue to run towards the enemy, and not away no way, stim drone means the cooldown on Hearthing back to base is waaaaay down.
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ugh its Troika posted:Dear idiot pubbies: when I use stim drone on you that's your cue to run towards the enemy, and not away Don't feel bad, i had a game last night where a sonya ran away from a nova, despite nova having whiffed her initial burst. I seriously believe this player was just terrified of nova.
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Sensual Simian posted:no way, stim drone means the cooldown on Hearthing back to base is waaaaay down. I hope they add a paladin hero that can bubble hearth
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Just had an idea that's either amazingly stupid or stupidly amazing: When you siege, Hammer immediately jumps out and you control her to shoot people with a pistol, collect globes, cap objectives, etc (you also still control tank shots).
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Elysium posted:Just had an idea that's either amazingly stupid or stupidly amazing: When you siege, Hammer immediately jumps out and you control her to shoot people with a pistol, collect globes, cap objectives, etc (you also still control tank shots). dva already does this and is not a piece of poo poo
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Dec 5, 2017 15:03
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So I have a "play 3 vs AI games" quest that doesn't seem to be completing. Is there some trigger that I am missing? Do the games need to last some minimum amount of time?
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Dec 5, 2017 15:32
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e: ^^^ I remember reading about this bug on reddit. Do some googling and see if that dude ever got it fixed.Sensual Simian posted:dva already does this and is not a piece of poo poo Read posts before you respond to them.
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Never!
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Lprsti99 posted:I'd prefer 76 to be similar to Jimmy, and rework Jimmy into something like this.  (also hey i know that guy)IMO 76 is perfect for replacing Jimmy as "ultra-basic autoattack-heavy character" and Jimmy's current design is wasting all of his character traits. I wouldn't do it exactly like Rambler did, but he's headed in the right direction. Hanzo PTR Report: Despite the buffs, he's still clunky and awkward. Scatter Arrow dealing a ton of damage is cool but not getting punked by it is as easy as not standing in a corridor.
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Brawl is... good? http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21304262/congratulations-to-the-fastest-teams-to-escape-from-braxis-12-4-2017
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Wanted to practice some Alexstraza last night (who I bought this weekend) so I loaded up a QM and locked her in solo. Ended up on a team with Li Li, Tassadar, Chromie, and Rexxar vs. Lucio, Abathur, Illidan, Malthael, and Varian. That's it for me on ever queuing up for QM again. I've had some really bad matchups in the last month but this one was the final straw. Our entire team wasn't even mad we were just talking in chat about none of us had any idea how the game got matchmade or what we could do after early game to evenly battle them at all. There's absolutely nothing analogous to a third support on their team, so they basically just cut us down on every objective after about level 7.
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That actually follows all the QM matchmaker rules. At least 1 tank on each team (Varian, Rexxar) At least 1 healer on each team 1 sustain on each team (Tassadar, Abathur)
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Sindai posted:That actually follows all the QM matchmaker rules. I thought QM matchmaking required analogous binary pairs of all five picks with loose definitions. The fact that 3 support compositions can even be matchmade in QM (without a full premade doing it) is disgustingly stupid.
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Libertine posted:Wanted to practice some Alexstraza last night (who I bought this weekend) so I loaded up a QM and locked her in solo. --- Last night my internet went down for an extended period of time for the first time in months in the middle of a HL match. Afterward I thought I should have tried to play using my phone as a wifi a hotspot, so I queued up as Sylv deal with my leaver penalty over 4G. I disconnected almost immediately and I just had to wait another 10-15 minutes for my internet to come back up. When it did, the game was still going and I was #2 on hero damage after a Xul, #2 on XP, and had the fewest deaths.  Thanks Sylv AI?
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Or just play unranked with goon stack.
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It baffles me you can't buy the one Alexstrasza skin with shards. Just that one skin. I'm guessing they'll make all the new skins like that, but the fact it's just that one for now is so weird.
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It's a dawning of a new age my friends, the age of people playing badly and performance-based matchmaking punishing them for it. Via reddit: Malthael wants to know why he got dinged for bad performance in HL on the PTR when he got MVP and so many kills!
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I'll ask the noob question, as I'm new. What's an ideal statline for Malth? Is it the lack of siege damage? Perhaps Blizzard should expand upon this as well in that graphic, even if it was just one little tip similar to "You did less damage than other players (last 30 days)"
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Nobody knows, and Blizzard isn't going to show the weights precisely because it might distort player behavior, which in turn distorts the weights because they're created by machine learning player stats. Overwatch is probably doing the right thing by not showing anything at all about the performance adjustment. It would work best if nobody even knows it exists, but then it would be even harder to tell if there are any bugs with it. 
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Yeah I'm confused too.Nybble posted:What's an ideal statline for Malth? Is it the lack of siege damage? Nah, Malth is terrible for siege damage since most of his damage is 1) percentage based and 2) doesn't apply to buildings.
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Nybble posted:I'll ask the noob question, as I'm new. Toshimo posted:idgi 83.3k siege damage vs vs 25.9k 51.6k hero damage vs 97.2k 16.8k xp vs 12.4k
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Gobbeldygook posted:Malthael and Valeera did less siege damage combined than any other one player in the game other than Nova. They probably spent the entire game chasing kills without laning, mercing, or pushing in any way. As a point of comparison, here's Psalm losing a match of similar duration as Malthael in HL. His stats: And Psalm went 2-6. I think you are proving a point, just not the one you think you are.
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Sindai posted:Nobody knows, and Blizzard isn't going to show the weights precisely because it might distort player behavior, which in turn distorts the weights because they're created by machine learning player stats. Just have it all roll into one number on the front end and keep all the stats breakdown in the back end that only blizz can see and heavily punish feeders and afkers on that note I've noticed a lot less afkers in vs ai games lately! Makes getting a 3-5 minute game so much easier.
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Toshimo posted:And Psalm went 2-6. I think you are proving a point, just not the one you think you are. Is he proving that pro players understand soaking and clearing waves is more important than a bunch of hero damage?
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What? Score screens aren't an accurate measure of who's a good player?  Nybble posted:What's an ideal statline for Malth? Is it the lack of siege damage? Nybble posted:Perhaps Blizzard should expand upon this as well in that graphic, even if it was just one little tip similar to "You did less damage than other players (last 30 days)"
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Toshimo posted:And Psalm went 2-6. I think you are proving a point, just not the one you think you are. This isn't the whole story - the system looks at 20 variables and we can't see things on the score screen like merc camps - but that this guy never laned or merced is super obvious from his stats and is part of why his team was able to get 2x as many kills while still losing the match.
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I think the only start they should tell you about is the one you were worst at.
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Signal posted:I think the only start they should tell you about is the one you were worst at. No need, I already know I never have any death 
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