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Also there's no chance in hell of Ripley being in the Princess line, unfortunately. Even if Disney does cross-pollinate their "external" IPs (Marvel, Star Wars) with their main Disney stuff on occasion, with stuff like Disney Infinity, the Princess line has stayed exclusively tied to "mainline" Disney stuff. And it's clearly a corporate directive to keep it that way, because otherwise putting Leia in there would be a total loving no-brainer, and I'm pretty sure they haven't done that. (Hell, it took them a long time to even allow Pixar characters in the Princess line; I'm pretty sure Brave was what tipped the scale on that, and before Brave it was a hard no.)
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Leavemywife posted:Maybe this will lead to Alien/Xenomorph world in a future KH game. See, this I could actually see happening. Disney is remarkably cool with letting Nomura just do whatever the gently caress he wants with their IPs; the only reason we're not seeing Star Wars and Marvel in KH3 is because there's existing licensing agreements to other publishers for those rights, and they don't want EA fighting Square over Star Wars or Activision fighting Square over Marvel. And even then, they still managed to get around the latter and sneak Big Hero 6 in, which is technically a Marvel property (even if the movie bears absolutely no resemblance to the Marvel comic).
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Leavemywife posted:Maybe this will lead to Alien/Xenomorph world in a future KH game. This implies we will ever actually see KH3 to have a future game to follow on to.
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is there anything cool that Disney doesn't own at this stage, god drat
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alf_pogs posted:is there anything cool that Disney doesn't own at this stage, god drat poo poo, if Disney bought out Fox AND Warner Bros, we could finally get a re-release of AvP2 on PC...
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This sucks. I'm gonna do like Tom Cruise in that movie and live in a log cabin with my old record collection and
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I think it's not anything and I cannot muster up any ability to care.
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I don't know how to reconcile being disgusted by Disney hoovering up another major studio with relief that I could be able to see Fox films without supporting News Corp.
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alf_pogs posted:is there anything cool that Disney doesn't own at this stage, god drat They don't own Dia De Los Muertos .............yet.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Also there's no chance in hell of Ripley being in the Princess line, unfortunately. Even if Disney does cross-pollinate their "external" IPs (Marvel, Star Wars) with their main Disney stuff on occasion, with stuff like Disney Infinity, the Princess line has stayed exclusively tied to "mainline" Disney stuff. And it's clearly a corporate directive to keep it that way, because otherwise putting Leia in there would be a total loving no-brainer, and I'm pretty sure they haven't done that. Leia is not officially a Disney Princess but Disney's main thing is merchandise and when I went to Disney World almost four years ago and there was already tons of Leia with a princess hat and other "LEIA IS A DISNEY PRINCESS NOW" style merchandise. Obviously they're not going to drop a PG Aliens flick but as far as toys and tchotchkes go I don't see why they wouldn't go all in on Fox stuff any less than anything else.
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Neo Rasa posted:Leia is not officially a Disney Princess but Disney's main thing is merchandise and when I went to Disney World almost four years ago and there was already tons of Leia with a princess hat and other "LEIA IS A DISNEY PRINCESS NOW" style merchandise. Obviously they're not going to drop a PG Aliens flick but as far as toys and tchotchkes go I don't see why they wouldn't go all in on Fox stuff any less than anything else. Aliens toys are everywhere and most shops that sell collectibles have a whole shelf or section dedicated to them.
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Neo Rasa posted:Leia is not officially a Disney Princess but Disney's main thing is merchandise and when I went to Disney World almost four years ago and there was already tons of Leia with a princess hat and other "LEIA IS A DISNEY PRINCESS NOW" style merchandise. Obviously they're not going to drop a PG Aliens flick but as far as toys and tchotchkes go I don't see why they wouldn't go all in on Fox stuff any less than anything else. I'm not gonna lie, I would watch the poo poo out of a Clone Wars style Aliens animated series.
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Snak posted:I'm not gonna lie, I would watch the poo poo out of a Clone Wars style Aliens animated series. Have you seen the CG animated Starship Troopers movies?
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ruddiger posted:Have you seen the CG animated Starship Troopers movies? I have not.
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Snak posted:I'm not gonna lie, I would watch the poo poo out of a Clone Wars style Aliens animated series. We almost had one as a Saturday Morning Cartoon.
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It was more than just a saturday morning cartoon, although that was the linchpin of the whole marketing bonanza. There were going to be t-shirts, school supplies, a board game, a toy line, trading cards, all kinds of stuff. Funnily enough one of the only things that *didn't* make it out into the public in some form was the cartoon. 
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Neo Rasa posted:Leia is not officially a Disney Princess but Disney's main thing is merchandise and when I went to Disney World almost four years ago and there was already tons of Leia with a princess hat and other "LEIA IS A DISNEY PRINCESS NOW" style merchandise. Obviously they're not going to drop a PG Aliens flick but as far as toys and tchotchkes go I don't see why they wouldn't go all in on Fox stuff any less than anything else. What I'm more annoyed by is the idea of "people loved Aliens the best, let's just make an Alien sequel that has all of the beats of Aliens and some of the beats of Alien and mix it together and make a movie to reboot the franchise!" which I can easily see done (and which I see as a waste of time, as I'd rather get an interesting film that I feel mixed about (Prometheus) than another Force Awakens).
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Darko posted:What I'm more annoyed by is the idea of "people loved Aliens the best, let's just make an Alien sequel that has all of the beats of Aliens and some of the beats of Alien and mix it together and make a movie to reboot the franchise!" which I can easily see done (and which I see as a waste of time, as I'd rather get an interesting film that I feel mixed about (Prometheus) than another Force Awakens). Speaking of content in a hypothetical flick like this, what are the upper limits of the relatively recent "Intense Sequences of Sci-Fi Violence" content descriptor the MPAA uses sometimes? Kong: Skull Island got away with a ton of stuff thanks to that like the dude getting fully impaled by the giant spider's leg and some other things. Like if Alien dropped today it would be PG-13 from that. Aliens and Alien 3 would certainly still be R just from the profanity though (though IIRC Alien 3 actually already has a 15 certificate-ish/PG-13-ish rating in many countries). I don't want to see a PG-13 Alien movie ever but at the same time it would be interesting to see another one that actually pushes the boundaries of content rating systems and audiences due to its intensity again.
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Fox already did that.
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Prometheus was almost PG-13 as well. They shot different versions just in case.
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I mean less during production and more from how it was received and how influential it was.
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Alien 3 had the most disturbing scene in the series imo when the alien was freaking mauling a limp corpse. Scene makes me shiver every time.
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ruddiger posted:Have you seen the CG animated Starship Troopers movies? Are they done in the same style as that weird saturday morning CGI cartoon that aired maybe 15-20 years ago? I mostly remember being surprised they had a Starship Troopers show aimed at kids, and that everyone actually had some level of powered armor in it. Either way, how are the movies? I just assumed that they'd be terrible, and not necessarily in a fun way.
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CelticPredator posted:Prometheus was almost PG-13 as well. They shot different versions just in case. Honestly, even the version of Prometheus we got is barely an R. Given that the MPAA is really light on non-human gore, I'm pretty sure the only change that would need to be made (aside from dialogue edits to get rid of F-bombs and whatnot) would be trimming a bit off the C-section; even the Engineer head explosion could probably totally stay in. (AvP, for all it lacks in human gore, is insanely brutal towards the titular creatures.) e: Also, the CGI Starship Troopers show and the CGI movies are different beasts. The CGI show is really, really, really good and probably one of the best kids' cartoons ever. The CGI movies are... okayish? They're more directly based on the Verheoven movie and, while they're better than the live-action sequels, they still don't touch the original. e2: also I looked up Alien 3's age certifications on IMDB to see if that tidbit was actually right, because it really didn't sound right, and... well, I'll be damned. The UK, the Canadian provinces of Nova Scotia and Ontario, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Japan, Malaysia, Norway, Singapore, and Spain all follow suit with the US in giving it a R-equivalent rating; meanwhile, every other country has it at a PG-13 equivalent or lower, and Mexico re-rated it from a C (R equivalent) to an A (G equivalent) in 2016. I really don't know what the hell some countries are thinking, that's an insanely brutal movie. I would think the opening alone would pretty much make it an automatic 17+/18+ in most countries, at least ones that give any kind of poo poo about gore. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Not just the gore, Alien3 is chock-full of profanity and has a scene of (attempted) sexual assault. Rating that movie a G is kind of insane.
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Today, I learned that Mexico is really loving hardcore.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:e2: also I looked up Alien 3's age certifications on IMDB to see if that tidbit was actually right, because it really didn't sound right, and... well, I'll be damned. The UK, the Canadian provinces of Nova Scotia and Ontario, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Japan, Malaysia, Norway, Singapore, and Spain all follow suit with the US in giving it a R-equivalent rating; meanwhile, every other country has it at a PG-13 equivalent or lower, and Mexico re-rated it from a C (R equivalent) to an A (G equivalent) in 2016. The scene where Murphy gets sliced up by the fan is gruesome. The way that Clemens identifies the corpse by stating "That's his boot" afterwards is hilarious, though.
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It's okay to say poo poo, it's not against God. #blessedup
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Is it possible that Fox and Ridley can get Alien Awakening into production quickly enough that Disney can't kill it? I know Ridley is about to film another movie, but he was able to jump right from The Martian into Covenant.
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SUNKOS posted:The scene where Murphy gets sliced up by the fan is gruesome. The way that Clemens identifies the corpse by stating "That's his boot" afterwards is hilarious, though. I think a big part of it is that the movie is quite bloody but we don't really see much of the gore compared to a lot of films that are rated an R equivalent for their violence. Like the alien mainly kills people the same way that fan does. I love the movie but I always  at the one guy it kills during the climax where the editing makes it appear as if it just ran into the guy so fast he exploded. The autopsy scene is more clinical in nature and you see very little of it. I could see, on a purely mechanical level, some ratings boards only really taking the time it munches on Clemens' head as the one really brutal moment of on screen violence.
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alien 3 is a very nihilistic film. even if the gore isn't that bad, thematically it's by far the darkest alien film
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A film about a bunch of violent convicts banding together, with no regard for their own lives, to prevent a massive corporation from creating biological weapons that will destroy humanity, is not nihilist. That's a straightforward narrative in which virtue triumphs over avarice. Nihilism is specifically the rejection of values and the treatment of life as essentially meaningless. Alien 3 very clearly rejects this.
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The ending is also affirming of choice. The idea of prison and corporate control is that they remove choice from you, but ultimately, you can still choose how you live. Or die.
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ruddiger posted:It's okay to say poo poo, it's not against God. CIGAREEEEEETTTTTTEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!! *performs a running jump kick*
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Alien 3 is "nihilist" in the same way that it's "cynical," in that the word becomes conflated with aesthetics, without regard for what either word actually means, or how aesthetics ultimately influence narrative. Fincher's film begins with the presupposition that the ending of Aliens was a fairy tale cop-out. For fans of the latter film, this is enough to declare that it's cynical, even though the point is actually that Aliens is cynical, crafting a narrative about its heroine conquering her personal demons, as opposed to confronting the alien as an irrevocable fact that does not submit to the protagonist's wish-fulfillment. In Alien 3, the monster has to be dealt with as an authentic threat not simply to the Ripley's 'inner peace,' but also to the very foundation of how humanity derives and asserts virtue in a vast, cold, and uncaring universe.
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MajorB posted:Is it possible that Fox and Ridley can get Alien Awakening into production quickly enough that Disney can't kill it? I know Ridley is about to film another movie, but he was able to jump right from The Martian into Covenant. The last 2 sucked. Ridley is suffering from whatever disease Lucas got when he started destroying star wars. Luckily Disney is once again here to save the day and gentrify another beloved 70s/80s franchise!
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Top Gun posted:The last 2 sucked. Ridley is suffering from whatever disease Lucas got when he started destroying star wars. Luckily Disney is once again here to save the day and gentrify another beloved 70s/80s franchise! The kicker here is that the only lesson you've learned from the loving alien franchise is that we should have more faith in massive corporations. The Walt Disney Company: Building better worlds.
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