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Mr. Spaghoot posted:Hey old folks; 90's was playing goth because everything was overly peppy, 00's was being goth because everything had turned to poo poo.
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I remember liking Invader Zim but most of the Invader Zim fans I knew in school etc. were really, really annoying - folks who seemed to think that blurting out non-sequiturs was a substitute for having a sense of humour. Same crowd who I remember changing gears and getting really heavily into Juno when it came out, all that very twee stuff.
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Mr. Spaghoot posted:Hey old folks; Well, let's take a look at some music videos of what was popular at the time. 1999 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXnF7fCCVzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg You see a lot of Dutch angles or low angles, bright colors (to the point of sometimes seeming like a living cartoon), and ridiculous excess like mirrored paired with frosted tips, baggy clothing, and unusual clothing combinations. I think it's because the 90s was a decade of economic prosperity in the United States, so you started seeing SUVs and McMansions with perfectly manicured lawns to demonstrate the newfound wealth. The advent of the Internet and coming millennium also made it seem like the future of our dreams was right around the corner, so you started seeing sci-fi stuff like wraparound mirrored sunglasses and shiny everything. 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yvGCAvOAfM 2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00ikilDxW4 9/11 happened, the president is an unpopular buffoon whose government is engaging in a meaningless war and spying on its own citizens, and the future we were all expecting just kinda looks like the 20th century with more Internet. All of a sudden the popular bands are going for edgier themes, and the bright colors are mostly gone in favor of either a realistic look or desaturation. Black hair and eyeliner are in. Oh, the 2000s also saw the real heyday of scene kids. That's when you had poo poo like eyeliner, tight jeans and hoodies in wacky bright colors, and a love for dark and quirky cartoons like Invader Zim.
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Dec 5, 2017 18:31
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Crazy Town was never popular
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Mr. Spaghoot posted:Hey old folks; Oh poo poo I can't handle this Wheat Loaf posted:I remember liking Invader Zim but most of the Invader Zim fans I knew in school etc. were really, really annoying - folks who seemed to think that blurting out non-sequiturs was a substitute for having a sense of humour. Same crowd who I remember changing gears and getting really heavily into Juno when it came out, all that very twee stuff. Its the ones who were into JTHM that you really want to avoid
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Zaphod42 posted:Its the ones who were into JTHM that you really want to avoid or squee
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Iron Crowned posted:Crazy Town was never popular The band wasn't popular, but that song was everywhere when it released.
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Dec 5, 2017 21:07
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Zim stood out to me as a kid because it looked nothing like anything else out there. Outside of Vasquez's fan base, none of that seems gothic to me. Is like techno-horror or something. Everything is futuristic and advanced yet horribly obtrusive and dirty. And claustrophobic.
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Dec 5, 2017 21:10
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:or squee Square was good and not much like JTHM. It's more Zim. Goofy comedy with dark bits peppered in.
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Dec 5, 2017 21:12
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At least in the united states, the cultural demarkation between the 90's and 2000's is mainly:
The Matrix was a huge departure from the norm in terms of cinematic style, and it arguably laid a lot of the groundwork for the 2000s anime boom by being so openly influenced by anime. But movies, TV and commercials made after The Matrix came out really show the influence that the movie had. Columbine was one of the first heavily publicized mass shootings as we know them today and it ended up being in the cultural zeitgeist for years afterwards. It blunted a lot of the 90's optimism that came with the dot com boom and contributed to the culture of paranoia that the 2000s would become known for. The 2000 election was so incredibly close and contentious, as it was the first election where cable news and specifically Fox News was a major factor. In the 90's cable subscriptions weren't all that common, and most people still used local network news or if something was happening right then and there, CNN. Fox starts in the 90's but isn't a huge player in the news ecosystem until the 2000 election and 9/11, where it starts to become a factor in radicalizing the right, (a process started by right-wing talk radio in the 90's once the fairness doctrine gets repealed and Limbaugh goes on the air). And 9/11 was the end of the 90's "end of history" optimism that came about front he end of the cold war.
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Dec 5, 2017 21:28
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Instant Sunrise posted:In the 90's cable subscriptions weren't all that common, and most people still used local network news or if something was happening right then and there, CNN. Yeah, up until June 1994, my family used an antenna on our roof. We had the hardest time getting the local Fox station, and it was nearly unwatchable. About 2 years later we switched to DirecTV. When we got cable I was introduced to the beauty of sneaking to the other end of the house to watch Beavis and Butthead after everyone else went to sleep.
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For my family, 9/11 literally led to us getting cable (and thus, Fox News) because most of the TV signal we picked up had been transmitted by the twin towers.
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Instant Sunrise posted:The Matrix was a huge departure from the norm in terms of cinematic style, and it arguably laid a lot of the groundwork for the 2000s anime boom by being so openly influenced by anime. But movies, TV and commercials made after The Matrix came out really show the influence that the movie had. Also: leather trench coats.
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Dec 5, 2017 21:58
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Its probably been mentioned about 125145 times, but for the last 4 years or so of the 90s the Fears about the y2k "bug" was pretty 90s poo poo.
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wesleywillis posted:Its probably been mentioned about 125145 times, but for the last 4 years or so of the 90s the Fears about the y2k "bug" was pretty 90s poo poo. To the point that the job in Office Space was instituting y2k compliance
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Zaphod42 posted:Its the ones who were into JTHM that you really want to avoid Yeah I knew a guy in middle school like that... he also liked the Star Wars prequels more than the originals... Also whenever he wanted to make an impact sound effect while acting out any situation involving such an event, he would forces the air out through his lips and the roof of his mouth to make a sound more akin to broadcast static than anything
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The most 90s version of modern Youtubers: Snackboy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O7vHZFZ580&list=PL635D764723874DDF This guy was doing these little short video things daily for a site called TheSync back in the late 90s. Why didn't he become a big Youtube star? He died in an accident about a year before Youtube was created.
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I had the Mike Myers hair cut from So I Married an Axe Murderer until about a year ago. I'm still embarrassed about it. I was born in '78 for reference. That's how pathetic it was. 20 years of a high-school haircut. Now my hair is in a classic '30's fade. Much better. At least I didn't have my brothers Johnathan Taylor Thomas hair cut. 
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Dec 8, 2017 07:10
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So I Married An Axe Murderer owns
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Randaconda posted:So I Married An Axe Murderer owns This is true. Possibly the best thing Mike Myers has done.
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mostlygray posted:I had the Mike Myers hair cut from So I Married an Axe Murderer until about a year ago. I'm still embarrassed about it. I was born in '78 for reference. That's how pathetic it was. 20 years of a high-school haircut. Man Woman Woah man
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Randaconda posted:So I Married An Axe Murderer owns Kick-rear end soundtrack too.
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i remember it ended to There She Goes by the Boo Radleys
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Neito posted:Pepsi points reminds me of that guy who tried to redeem something like several million Lean Cuisine Frequent Flyer miles and had to sue to get them. I got enough Pepsi points for the leather jacket. Still have it.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:i remember it ended to There She Goes by the Boo Radleys They play that song so often in the movie that I'm surprised there isn't a 'So I Married An Axe Murderer But Every Piece Of Dialogue Is There She Goes'
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I was going to follow up sodachat with a post asking who remembered Water Joe, the late-90s caffeinated bottled water (yup, just water with added caffeine). But hey I don't have to, it still exists! http://waterjoe.com/ I remember there was a lot of talk about how offices were secretly putting this in the water coolers to increase productivity. Pretty sure at least one late-90s sitcom had this as a plot point too. Also, on the topic of the 90s/00s transition, I've been having an ongoing discussion with coworkers about how the turn of the millennium was pretty much a low-point for pop culture across the board. For music, it's easily provable simply by reminding folks that Limp Bizkit and Crazytown were serious things that actually existed. I was, and still am, into metal, so every music conversation contained the words "No, not like Limp Bizkit." For movies, there were obviously some good ones, but I feel like genre films were just so bad. Sci fi was in a weird place, with stuff like Mission to Mars and Red Planet, to say nothing of Battlefield Earth and the Star Wars prequels(though those movies' terribleness was pretty independent of the time period). Action films were awful for a few years after The Matrix. I had just gotten into John Woo, so I got to experience MI2 and Windtalkers (Face/Off was fun though). James Bond films were pretty bad, and Schwarzenegger had a stream of stinkers before he went into politics. I mean there's plenty of terrible genre movies nowadays, but I just feel like at least they're aiming higher, and there are more decent ones. VVV That it did Capn Jobe has a new favorite as of 23:32 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Capn Jobe posted:I was going to follow up sodachat with a post asking who remembered Water Joe, the late-90s caffeinated bottled water (yup, just water with added caffeine). But hey I don't have to, it still exists! I think the mid to late 90's were a crest which made the films of the time period you mention seem that much worse. Or that's my teenage nostalgia.
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Groke posted:This is true. Possibly the best thing Mike Myers has done. It is my favorite too. It is really '90s though.
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Groke posted:This is true. Possibly the best thing Mike Myers has done. The best thing he's done is stop making films and going away. Would that Adam Sandler would do the same.
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The Lord of the Rings trilogy and smaller budget films were great, but yeah, the 2000s were terrible for movies and TV.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:03
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In the 90s, Oz was prestige TV. Oz does not hold up.
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Duck_King posted:The Lord of the Rings trilogy and smaller budget films were great, but yeah, the 2000s were terrible for movies and TV. I feel like this is how every time period seems from the perspective of a decade or so later. A lot of the good, popular stuff seems "dated-but-not-yet-retro", so it gets ignored, and the hidden gems and cult classics haven't had time to find their audience yet, so it seems like nothing good ever came out. I'm sure I could come up with plenty of great stuff from the 2000s if I really sat down and thought about it.
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Laocius posted:I feel like this is how every time period seems from the perspective of a decade or so later. A lot of the good, popular stuff seems "dated-but-not-yet-retro", so it gets ignored, and the hidden gems and cult classics haven't had time to find their audience yet, so it seems like nothing good ever came out. I'm sure I could come up with plenty of great stuff from the 2000s if I really sat down and thought about it. There should be a thread about it. I'd be down for that. 
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Grassy Knowles posted:In the 90s, Oz was prestige TV. I like how after the first season, there's literally no consequences for anything. Guards get murdered by inmates with really sharp fingernails with no one ever commenting on it. Inmates get blocked up in walls and no one ever looks for them. People take magic aging pills and the effects just wear off when someone realizes that plotline was fucknig stupid.
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MorgaineDax posted:I like how after the first season, there's literally no consequences for anything. Guards get murdered by inmates with really sharp fingernails with no one ever commenting on it. Inmates get blocked up in walls and no one ever looks for them. People take magic aging pills and the effects just wear off when someone realizes that plotline was fucknig stupid.
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Sunswipe posted:I'm sorry, what? I never watched Oz, so I only know what I've heard from reviewers and stuff, but I thought it was supposed to be a serious and realistic drama about American prisons? https://youtube.com/watch?v=OMRrsQolsOI
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Capn Jobe posted:For movies, there were obviously some good ones, but I feel like genre films were just so bad. Sci fi was in a weird place, with stuff like Mission to Mars and Red Planet, to say nothing of Battlefield Earth and the Star Wars prequels(though those movies' terribleness was pretty independent of the time period). Action films were awful for a few years after The Matrix. I had just gotten into John Woo, so I got to experience MI2 and Windtalkers (Face/Off was fun though). James Bond films were pretty bad, and Schwarzenegger had a stream of stinkers before he went into politics. I think The Matrix almost ruined action movies for a few years by being so good (or at least so different when it came out) that it made everything else look worse. Off the top of my head, I think the best big, mainstream action movie in the five years or so after it is Kill Bill. Frankly I'm not sure what big mainstream action movies there are at the moment that aren't superhero films. Face/Off is John Woo's best Hollywood movie; I love Face/Off because it's just so mad (of those I've seen: it's Face/Off, then Hard Target, then Broken Arrow, then Paycheck, which is fairly rote but which I have a soft spot for, then I haven't seen his other Hollywood movies). It has my favourite take on that one face-to-face arm's length Mexican stand-off John Woo loves, where John Travolta and Nicolas Cage have to sort of flip their arms over each other to get into it. No joke about James Bond, though. I recently rewatched the Brosnan movies: GoldenEye is still great and Tomorrow Never Dies is still an underrated one that approaches being great, but I just got bored of The World Is Not Enough and gave up on it; Denise Richards is really, really bad in it and you can tell exactly where Brosnan checks out because he stops bothering with his accent. I didn't bother with Die Another Day because World Is Not Enough put me off enough, but if you told me it's actually better, I'd believe you.
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GoldenEye is my all time favourite bond film. Some of that may because of how much I played the N64 game at uni.
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One trend from the 90s was movies based on TV shows from the 60s. I think The Fugitive was the best one.
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