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Cybernetic Vermin posted:electron is not only way way worse than building the same thing with uwp, but, strategically, adopting it would casually cede a lot of control over the os to google i like edge on the go since chrome just kills the battery. haven't tried quantum yet
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cinci zoo sniper posted:you can't search history in microsoft edge Celexi posted:It also has no bookmark manager Shaggar posted:chome and failfox are so bad I cant imagine why anyone would use them over edge. lol
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apparently microsoft broke windows update for windows 7 users because an authorization.xml file inside of c:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\authcab.cab lists an expiry date of december 3 https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/04/getting-windows-7-update-error-80248015-you-are-not-alone/
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anthonypants posted:apparently microsoft broke windows update for windows 7 users because an authorization.xml file inside of c:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\authcab.cab lists an expiry date of december 3 https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/04/getting-windows-7-update-error-80248015-you-are-not-alone/ haha i ran into this today and never got around to fixing it, windows breaks before you even have time to sysprep
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Boiled Water posted:i wonder why ms keep throwing resources after this when firefox and chrome clearly fill this void because tracking and bing ads, op
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lmao windows rt: revengance or how to make a windows-store only arm os a second time. now with 32bit x86 emulation support, a feature xda-forums had running on the surface rt five years ago
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oh my god, from a slide deck promoting windows on arm
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part of a qualcomm press kit, i can't find it atm, but that specific image is used here https://gizmodo.com/smartphone-guts-are-coming-to-windows-laptops-and-it-c-1820996011
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fuckin hell Asus NovaGo specs Price: $599 for 64GB/4GB storage version; $799 for 256GB/8GB version this for a arm device running an os that emulates x86 from a company with a solid as gently caress history of abandoning arm versions of their os More like the ASUS NoGo
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novago gently caress yourself asus
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keep in mind, those "competitor a/b" numbers are for the cheapest trash tier best buy special celeron with no ram and a potato for a hard drive
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problem: no one makes or uses UWP apps solution: yet another device that only runs UWP apps, but this time it can also run all the 32bit x86 UWP apps that don't exist
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AtomD posted:novago gently caress yourself asus
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infernal machines posted:oh my god, from a slide deck promoting windows on arm when even promo material can't help you
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Shaggar posted:chome and failfox are so bad I cant imagine why anyone would use them over edge. The vue web app we're working at the moment runs pretty slowly in edge. If you try to load the developer tools while it's loading, the entire edge process exits with no error. Just disappears. Fortunately putting a "sorry this doesn't work in edge" message in place only affects ~5% of users, so problem solved!
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infernal machines posted:what if an ipad pro, but trash, with even less of a purpose? where the ipad pro of course is, "what if a surface pro, but trash?" well, no, but the microsoft take on the ipad pro is certainly a thing that came long before the ipad pro
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:where the ipad pro of course is, "what if a surface pro, but trash?" they did, but it was the surface rt. the surface pro runs the full desktop os with no limitations on apps. the ipad pro is a really expensive tablet, that only runs ipad apps. this new thing is once again, a really expensive tablet that only runs a limited subset of apps no one makes
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except the surface rt, as a device, never attempted to inhabit the same niche as the other two, the instruction set is a technical detail only nerds consider, not like there is the least bit of compatibility between the surface rt and the ipad pro keeping the arm supporting limping along is precisely like nt for powerpc/mips/alpha being kept limping along according to the platforms seeming relevance, it is insurance against a potential future where intel falls from grace. trying to ascribe market segment strategy to these things is looking at the wrong thing
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Chalks posted:The vue web app we're working at the moment runs pretty slowly in edge. If you try to load the developer tools while it's loading, the entire edge process exits with no error. Just disappears. a js framework is a terrible thing but if its doesn't work in Edge is doubly terrible
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:except the surface rt, as a device, never attempted to inhabit the same niche as the other two, the instruction set is a technical detail only nerds consider, not like there is the least bit of compatibility between the surface rt and the ipad pro what the gently caress does this even mean
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAn-zPojex0 never attempted to inhabit the same niche
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:except the surface rt, as a device, never attempted to inhabit the same niche as the other two, the instruction set is a technical detail only nerds consider, not like there is the least bit of compatibility between the surface rt and the ipad pro
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the ipad pro exists because tim wanted to make a thousand dollar ipad
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pram posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAn-zPojex0 yeah, that's a bit of a head scratcher there.
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the ipad had a keyboard dock in 2010, and the surface came out in 2012 (and lets not forget was a 1 billion dollar loss)
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pram posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAn-zPojex0 the ipad pro as in the big stylus-centered device, which is the surface pro niche the surface pro not being arm is not in and of itself central to it, but it running e.g. photoshop is pretty important, so it is easy to see why microsoft likely spent no time whatsoever making an arm one of that tier of device otoh the rt is not a mile off no, but the implication that arm is a core part of competing with ipad pros is the usual nerdy focusing on incredibly irrelevant tech details of the things anthonypants posted:windows on arm is an embarrassment like windows phone and the sooner they put that department out of its misery instead of pretending to half-support it the better windows on arm is largely free now that it exists, and prepares the company to have some out if intel starts slipping. it is not an embarrassment to customers who matter (i.e. internet nerds are sure to be upset for unclear reasons, as it is a proud slashdot-style traddition, but it is not going to hurt general sales). nt on alpha/mips/powerpc never paid off in any huge way, but they wanted into the server business and it wasn't similarly before intel proved that they managed to stick it out in that business
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:otoh the rt is not a mile off no, but the implication that arm is a core part of competing with ipad pros is the usual nerdy focusing on incredibly irrelevant tech details of the things what the gently caress are you even talking about, you cretin?
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