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Cyrano4747 posted:Holy poo poo, only tangentially related but it's a bit Cold War 2.0 so whatever: Teen/college me would’ve never expected how much adult me would be down to clown on Russia.
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TheFluff posted:Something Awful dot com forums poster Scott Manley just recently put out a v good YouTube series about nuke physics, and part 3 goes into a lot of details on the challenges of designing a working implosion-type device: I want to play Kerbal Nuclear Program now
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shame on an IGA posted:I want to play Kerbal Nuclear Program now Children of a Dead Earth's nuke design module is probably the closest you'll get.
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I’m real curious about how likely Russia thought a national ban was while running that little program.
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-Anders posted:If only. Unfortunately the Danish navy hasn't had subs since 2004. They're not coming back either. Seems like subs are pretty ideal for Denmark given the geography of your territorial waters, right?
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Cyrano4747 posted:Holy poo poo, only tangentially related but it's a bit Cold War 2.0 so whatever: What's even more cold war about this is that the guy who admitted to the whole doping thing is currently in hiding in the US under federal protection to keep him from getting Litvinenko'd. It's kinda amazing how important sports are to authoritarian regimes. They'll literally kill over it. Panem et circenses I guess
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Alaan posted:I’m real curious about how likely Russia thought a national ban was while running that little program. The way they're going to spin this internally is "we so hot, club can't handle us."
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I didn’t think the committee had the backbone to ban Russia. I mean, they probably don’t, but at least they have a back brace.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Seems like subs are pretty ideal for Denmark given the geography of your territorial waters, right? Yes, we used to have some conventional diesel-electric coastal submarines. They used to be pretty great for gathering intel and all that good stuff. The politicians have deemed that it will be too expensive to reacquire submarines again, so no joy there.
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Alaan posted:They still vehemently deny guilt right? They absolutely do. Which makes me think that they're just going to double down on ignoring what they've been told to do, and keep the banned people close to their sports programme, and then get banned from the Summer Games in a couple of years. And the fallout from the Russian state doping programme is Cold War as gently caress. Sporting victories are just another way of flexing geopolitical power to them.
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Memento posted:Sporting victories are just another way of flexing geopolitical power to them. That's not just Russia, though. A big plot point of one of the Prefontaine biopics was that countries like Finland gave athletes like their long-distance runners government jobs that they were allowed to take extended periods of leave from to train, while subsidizing their lives with the income from the job they practically didn't have.
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Smiling Jack posted:Russian doping is cold war as gently caress Heeeeearts on fiiiiiiiiire, strong desiiiiiiiiire, raaaaages deeeeep withiiiiinnnnn.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Heeeeearts on fiiiiiiiiire, strong desiiiiiiiiire, raaaaages deeeeep withiiiiinnnnn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's not just Russia, though. East Germany went nuts with their girls, almost turning them into men with all their PED. Doping for gold covered it a bit.
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Herv posted:East Germany went nuts with their girls, almost turning them into men with all their PED. Doping for gold covered it a bit. Hoooo boy did they ever. Lot of their athletes were super hosed up later in life..
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Smiling Jack posted:Hoooo boy did they ever. Lot of their athletes were super hosed up later in life.. There was a special exhibition on the East/West Germany competitions during the cold war at some museum I visited over there. They had a huge display of all the PEDs that the E. German athletes were taking and a whole section on the various ways it hosed them up. poo poo was really goddamned grim for them after the wall came down.
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If this hasn't been mentioned yet wrt Russian doping everyone give it a watch, it's like a god drat spy movie. https://www.netflix.com/title/80168079
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's not just Russia, though. Sure, but look at the approval ratings Putin had before Sochi. Low-60s, which then turned into high-80s after Russia's perceived "victory" in Sochi. He then rode that to being able to sell an invasion of the Crimea on the basis of lying to the Russian people about Ukraine having no legitimate government, that Russian speakers there were in danger, and that Ukrainian nationalists were attacking Russian nationals in the Crimea. Three absolute lies that a populace that wasn't all in on tonguing his nutsack might not have believed.
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-Anders posted:Yes, we used to have some conventional diesel-electric coastal submarines. They used to be pretty great for gathering intel and all that good stuff. 
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Memento posted:Sure, but look at the approval ratings Putin had before Sochi. Low-60s, which then turned into high-80s after Russia's perceived "victory" in Sochi. He then rode that to being able to sell an invasion of the Crimea on the basis of lying to the Russian people about Ukraine having no legitimate government, that Russian speakers there were in danger, and that Ukrainian nationalists were attacking Russian nationals in the Crimea. Three absolute lies that a populace that wasn't all in on tonguing his nutsack might not have believed. Was the invasion of Crimea contingent on Putin's approval rating? I'd like to read more about this if you've got some hot links.
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aphid_licker posted:Oh god that Bruce Rule site led me to the USS Chopper: Lol yeah that one is a doozy, I think I would have just been staring at the depth gauge incredulously the entire time. So submarines are designed to go underwater, but some boats tend to have some issues with staying on the surface. Waves hit them just right and they tend to nose under for a little bit. I met someone (I've heard this legend from more than one person FWIW) who said that while he was stationed on a boat out of Groton I think, they were headed out of port in some pretty rough weather. Normally, on the surface, at the top of the sail jammed into a couple of crevices there is a junior officer and a lookout, both tethered in, cold and usually bored. The boat took a huge wave over the bow that plowed the whole thing underwater, and it plunged close to 200 feet before bobbing back up. With the two guys still tethered to the sail. They made it, but allegedly never went to sea again. 
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They would almost certainly have drowned. It takes time to make that trip, and obviously they didn't bring any air. And that's 6 or 7 atmospheres of pressure...they're not holding their breath through that.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:"we piss so hot, club can't handle us." ftfy
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's not just Russia, though. A big plot point of one of the Prefontaine biopics was that countries like Finland gave athletes like their long-distance runners government jobs that they were allowed to take extended periods of leave from to train, while subsidizing their lives with the income from the job they practically didn't have. Heck, "[runner] ran Finland into the world map" is a saying in Finnish, you can interchange the runner but it's usually Paavo Nurmi or Hannes Kolehmainen. There's even a "sports school" in the Finnish Defence Forces to this day whose only purpose is to make sure promising young (male) athletes aren't overburdened by conscription, and which has come under fire lately because of the blatant favoritism. I believe South Korea has a similar scheme.
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Godholio posted:They would almost certainly have drowned. It takes time to make that trip, and obviously they didn't bring any air. And that's 6 or 7 atmospheres of pressure...they're not holding their breath through that.
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Western sports are dirty as gently caress too only the motivating force is money, so the gov can stick a bit more to turning a blind eye and leave the rest to the invisible hand.
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-Anders posted:Yes, we used to have some conventional diesel-electric coastal submarines. They used to be pretty great for gathering intel and all that good stuff. Maybe it's for the best, I don't know if Danes should be trusted with submarines. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3829904
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Anta posted:Maybe it's for the best, I don't know if Danes should be trusted with submarines. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3829904 We just want to return to our raiding days, ok?  (with Longsubmarines this time, gently caress you England for Brexit! Time to pay the Danegeld again)
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Godholio posted:They would almost certainly have drowned. It takes time to make that trip, and obviously they didn't bring any air. And that's 6 or 7 atmospheres of pressure...they're not holding their breath through that. I’d believe it, but I’m assuming the depth was multiplied by 2 every time the story was told.
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Top Gun 2: Aggressor squadron still rocking A-4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmutFmfB0q4
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Godholio posted:They would almost certainly have drowned. It takes time to make that trip, and obviously they didn't bring any air. And that's 6 or 7 atmospheres of pressure...they're not holding their breath through that. 60' seas are not that uncommon. Sub goes down the back side of a wave noses under the next wave which is a larger than normal wave. I could see the depth of the nose hitting 200 feet for a brief moment. Depth above the sail would obviously be a lot less and the time underwater is probably less than 30 seconds total. The OP did not imply meters.
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Murgos posted:60' seas are not that uncommon. Sub goes down the back side of a wave noses under the next wave which is a larger than normal wave. I could see the depth of the nose hitting 200 feet for a brief moment. Depth above the sail would obviously be a lot less and the time underwater is probably less than 30 seconds total. One terrifying as gently caress 30 seconds though. On the bright side, their pants were cleaned immediately after they poo poo them.
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Cyrano4747 posted:One terrifying as gently caress 30 seconds though. No, I don't think those pants were ever clean again, fear poop stains are tenacious little bastards.
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Cyrano4747 posted:One terrifying as gently caress 30 seconds though. https://youtu.be/poy2F9HdWqc
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Ssthalar posted:We just want to return to our raiding days, ok? Based on the previous 48 hours, living under the Danelaw again would come as a blessed relief.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:There's even a "sports school" in the Finnish Defence Forces to this day whose only purpose is to make sure promising young (male) athletes aren't overburdened by conscription, and which has come under fire lately because of the blatant favoritism. I believe South Korea has a similar scheme.
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Ssthalar posted:We just want to return to our raiding days, ok? Stamford Bridge greatest day of my life hahahaaa take a bath of dead Danes
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