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Toshimo posted:It me, but Sylvanas. That's fine because she's the most strategically useful DPS character in the game and always has been.
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Filthy Monkey posted:The top level games do seem to be speedy racecar dehaka builds. I kind of like the hp regen that a basic attack/essence/drag type setup has though. It is hard to count on reliable healing in my low level random quickplay stuff. this is basically the same build i use! the only difference being i take the longer Drag duration skill at 7 and the tunneling claws at 16. i've never actually used the Isolation ult though. i like adaptation too much.
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I've started taking iso more. They feel somewhat even at 10 and you can use both to run at their back line but the level 20 iso upgrade is really extremely good, especially for a character who has trouble contributing much to late game team fights otherwise.
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The bonus essence on takedown is generally much better and lets you stay in fights forever.
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playing junkrat is one of the most purely joyful experiences i have ever had in this game. everything-- his mechanics, the visuals, his talents, his voiceover-- all combine to make him incredibly fun, just pure and blissful fun. he's also really powerful, but i've never enjoyed myself as much as when i play him
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:playing junkrat is one of the most purely joyful experiences i have ever had in this game. everything-- his mechanics, the visuals, his talents, his voiceover-- all combine to make him incredibly fun, just pure and blissful fun. he's also really powerful, but i've never enjoyed myself as much as when i play him Same except everything gazlowe focused. Hes my announcer for every character.
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Are there any youtubers you guys would recommend? I've watched a few of MFPallytime's A-Z videos on heroes that I've been trying out. Some have been quite helpful, like his Nazeebo video. Others less so. He does like complaining about Garrosh a lot, which makes me really want to try Garrosh.
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Filthy Monkey posted:Are there any youtubers you guys would recommend? I've watched a few of MFPallytime's A-Z videos on heroes that I've been trying out. Some have been quite helpful, like his Nazeebo video. Others less so. He does like complaining about Garrosh a lot, which makes me really want to try Garrosh. Grubby and nubkeks
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Filthy Monkey posted:Are there any youtubers you guys would recommend? I've watched a few of MFPallytime's A-Z videos on heroes that I've been trying out. Some have been quite helpful, like his Nazeebo video. Others less so. He does like complaining about Garrosh a lot, which makes me really want to try Garrosh. I used to watch a lot of Pallytime, but occasionally he doesn't have a great time in QM, and the yelling isn't my jam. Grubby uploads lots of his Hero League matches, not always wins - just the right combo of exceptional skill and great attitude.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:playing junkrat is one of the most purely joyful experiences i have ever had in this game. everything-- his mechanics, the visuals, his talents, his voiceover-- all combine to make him incredibly fun, just pure and blissful fun. he's also really powerful, but i've never enjoyed myself as much as when i play him Junkrat is really fun and good until the late game I've found. Around 18-20 his damage is still good but healing/sustain on most characters becomes so strong that he just can't keep up. He doesn't have the ability to narrow down his damage enough to take out high value targets so I feel like most of time I'm hitting a ton of nades but not really accomplishing anything.
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Around 20 he can at least hit all his buttons and then Rocket Ride out to avoid death exp since his damage doesn't come from AA's.
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Yeah nubkeks, mfpallytime, and grubby are the good tubers.Filthy Monkey posted:The top level games do seem to be speedy racecar dehaka builds. I kind of like the hp regen that a basic attack/essence/drag type setup has though. It is hard to count on reliable healing in my low level random quickplay stuff. Same but I like the agility quest. It gives you an escape when it's done, and let's you bust of a bush and grab someone real quick. Sometimes switch in Apex Predator at 20 if it's a big map or I've been needing it a lot. For ult I do Adaptation unless there's some real good target like a hypercarry.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:playing junkrat is one of the most purely joyful experiences i have ever had in this game. everything-- his mechanics, the visuals, his talents, his voiceover-- all combine to make him incredibly fun, just pure and blissful fun. he's also really powerful, but i've never enjoyed myself as much as when i play him I never liked Junkrat in Overwatch, and I traditionally am not a fan of his general character archetype. I tried him out for the hell of it here in Heroes though, and I have to agree with you on this. He's not my absolute favorite, but he's a ton of fun. In my last QM, there was a Gazlowe on my team. The opening banter was his generic "Hey, how ya doin'?" and Junkrat's response line was something like "Great, thanks! And I'm a huge fan of your work!" That just had me grinning too much.
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Batigh posted:I used to watch a lot of Pallytime, but occasionally he doesn't have a great time in QM, and the yelling isn't my jam. Grubby uploads lots of his Hero League matches, not always wins - just the right combo of exceptional skill and great attitude. Yeah, I constantly go back and forth with Pally based entirely on which video I'm watching. If you want to see some more down-to-earth gameplay and get a general idea of the game, he's not terrible, but he's got a bad tendency to tilt, grouch about his team, or otherwise just play like a numbskull because he literally just woke up or is sick or is on a five game losing streak or didn't eat his Wheaties that day or whatever. Maybe it's less infuriating if you don't recognize all of the mistakes he's making, but when he stoops to blaming his teammates for stuff it's a bad look. Grubby on the other hand is A+. Dude stays on top of explaining his talent choices, his macro decision making, the works. He's just as quick to admit his mistakes as he is to point out others'. Just a class act all around. Literally the only bad thing I can say about him is that on occasion he gets (probably deservedly) extra snarky with people in his chat over something.
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No love for Dunktrain? Junkrat chat, the first time I heard him bust out the 1812 Overture was the moment I decided to buy him. 
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I actually plunked down a couple of euros to buy junkrat as well (and Alex...) and I don’t regret one thing. He’s a blast.
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Filthy Monkey posted:Are there any youtubers you guys would recommend? I've watched a few of MFPallytime's A-Z videos on heroes that I've been trying out. Some have been quite helpful, like his Nazeebo video. Others less so. He does like complaining about Garrosh a lot, which makes me really want to try Garrosh. McIntyre is amazing for reviewing new heroes and reworks. He doesn't post much else, but I always watch when he does.
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Late game damage with Junkrat seems to rely on a combination of your grenade talent at...is it 16 where you choose spread volley or endless nades?...and then Rocket Riding into everything. Grubby's played a lot of Junkrat lately and he seems to favor going with Taste for Explosions over the trap focused build so maybe that's the way to go if you feel like you're lacking in the damage department but eh, it's just not that big a damage boost so I always feel pretty underwhelmed taking it.
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BrianBoitano posted:McIntyre is amazing for reviewing new heroes and reworks. He doesn't post much else, but I always watch when he does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBwfgqVy8c I like how he goes slowly, and explains his reasoning behind things. I have to say, I am finding it more enlightening than the MFPallytime videos.
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Grubby's viewer replay analyses are particularly good, because he focuses entirely on analysing and constructive feedback. There's not many of them, though.
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BamBam best HOTS streamer
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Samara posted:BamBam best HOTS streamer MaliciousOnion posted:Grubby's viewer replay analyses are particularly good, because he focuses entirely on analysing and constructive feedback. There's not many of them, though. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Man just had a game where the Alexstrasse went "dmg build" and did 12k healing. Then had a total breakdown and just sat in a vent raging and crying in chat. edit: hmm, according to hotdogs his mmr is 500 higher than me, and he's plat/diamond ranked. Apparently routinely gets out healed by Tassasdar though. appropriatemetaphor fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Grain of salt (aside from the first one which is all but confirmed), but here's the latest 4chan hero leak: Firebat - Warrior Mal'Ganis - Assassin/Bruiser Belial - Specialist/Stealth
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I think it's weird that we still haven't gotten any other hybrids beyond Varian. Maybe they found it messes with their matchmaking too much or something.
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Dick Burglar posted:I think it's weird that we still haven't gotten any other hybrids beyond Varian. Maybe they found it messes with their matchmaking too much or something. Varian was a poo poo design that continues to haunt them. Why would they ever do that again?
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Man just had a game where the Alexstrasse went "dmg build" and did 12k healing. Then had a total breakdown and just sat in a vent raging and crying in chat. Had an Alex on my team that actually refused to heal because she was "damage build". Like you can stand next to her at 20% for 30 seconds and she just would not toss a heal your way.
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In what way is Varian "a poo poo design that continues to haunt them" lol
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beejay posted:In what way is Varian "a poo poo design that continues to haunt them" lol It has been nigh impossible to balance his builds against each other. There has pretty much always been one "strong," one "weak," and Colossus Smash. He's been crazy overpowered as a QM fucker two different times. First at his launch where Twin Blades + Warbringer could stun-blender-stun an entire team unless you got lucky comp-wise with stuns or blinds, then when they classified him as a non-warrior and he could be a tank against teams full of squishies. QM will be QM and comps will never be perfect, but he broke QM open more than any other hero I've seen. My opinion remains that multiclass was either an experiment that failed, or a Blizzcon '16 marketing tool. Depends on how optimistic I am at the time. Edit: I was not playing when they launched Samuro, so I missed the shitstorm he apparently was and don't know if it was even worse than launch Varian. Mind over Matter fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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C Smash and Taunt Varian are both extremely balanced. Twin Blades is special but people seem to absolutely love it regardless so who cares? If there's a reason multiclass was pointless it's that the definition of warrior includes characters like Sonya and Leoric, and Varian can just be called a straight-up warrior now regardless of which build he picks. Introducing "multi-class" does nothing except maybe make people take the existing role classification way too seriously while Tyrande is still classified as a support. No Wave fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Polio Vax Scene posted:it came from quickmatch Have you ever noticed how's there's a certain threshold where the number of games played directly correlates to how miserable a person is to play with? Like, the second that a person dies in lane you're guaranteed 25 minutes of the guy who has played 700 games as tracer losing his loving poo poo in chat
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I got a 1 week suspension for dying almost 200 times over the course of 11 games as Leoric. In all fairness I won 7 of those games.
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Seebach posted:I got a 1 week suspension for dying almost 200 times over the course of 11 games as Leoric. So you got suspended for playing the game and not breaking the rules? You should probably appeal it or, failing that, make a reddit post to harvest hot takes.
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Seebach posted:I got a 1 week suspension for dying almost 200 times over the course of 11 games as Leoric. I suspect that your team won in spite of your 20 deaths, not because of it
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Seebach posted:I got a 1 week suspension for dying almost 200 times over the course of 11 games as Leoric. Did you just attack down a single lane for a whole game and never went back for any reason?
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Spudd posted:Did you just attack down a single lane for a whole game and never went back for any reason? Yes. I deserved this. Dick Burglar posted:He probably typed out multiple angry diatribes at anyone who dared play Thrall. Also this.
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NeurosisHead posted:Have you ever noticed how's there's a certain threshold where the number of games played directly correlates to how miserable a person is to play with? Like, the second that a person dies in lane you're guaranteed 25 minutes of the guy who has played 700 games as tracer losing his loving poo poo in chat It was on haunted mines and he died to the golem's root twice so I think it was a bot
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