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Stretch Marx posted:That's my point. If I smoked weed on Monday and got high for an hour, I would still show for weed on Wednesday even though I'm stone sober and hadn't smoked since that instance. Those types of tests, once weed becomes legal, will just be a whole lot of people going "prove I smoked before I came here today". By 3 o clock that afternoon, that person isn't high anymore. Good luck proving that they did without a breathalyzer. They'll just say, "I don't give a gently caress if you smoked ten minutes ago, a day ago or a week ago; you tested positive, find a job where impaired performance won't mean someone could die." I don't think that's unreasonable, either, at least until we have more data about how cannabis impairs people.
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PT6A posted:They'll just say, "I don't give a gently caress if you smoked ten minutes ago, a day ago or a week ago; you tested positive, find a job where impaired performance won't mean someone could die." I don't think that's unreasonable, either, at least until we have more data about how cannabis impairs people. The RCMP guy raised a big stink about how he couldn't smoke in uniform. Presumably, we're fine with them smoking ptsd bluntz on their own time.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 04:29 |
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TC marine safety medicals don't test for drugs of any kind, as the Dr. conducting my first one pointed out to me. In fact, he claimed it was illegal for him to do so. I didn't care, as I was going to work for a company overseas, and they aren't bound by Canadian laws, and will do random testing. The marine medical does a simple urinalysis for things like diabetes. The point where we will see US style mandatory testing of every employee, and even high school students, will be as soon as the owner of a testing company finds themselves in cabinet.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 04:40 |
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Gee I can’t wait for some rich kid high to kill someone with his car while high as gently caress and get off because “but how did we really know he was high, the tests are flawed”.
Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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I hate this country https://twitter.com/andrewscheer/status/938606306574843905
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 04:59 |
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most of those kids will join antifa squads once they're old enough to punch their dads
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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I'm the blue santa claus.
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Agreed. The correct response here is that institutions need to step up their game. It's dispiriting and corrosive when mediocrity is accepted as the only way it can be.
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Out of curiosity, and absent a fool proof test for weed intoxication, where do you think the SCC will come down on testing for safety sensitive positions? If one of my co workers is stoned and forgets to do something, or does it incorrectly there’s a good chance someone will die. Without a good way to test for intoxication, companies simply ban the substance as a precautionary measure. When weed is legal people simply say they were smoking on their days off which leaves the company no way to enforce a no weed policy.
Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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DariusLikewise posted:I hate this country I feel like I’ve been here before. Is a plane about to get piloted into [downtown Toronto building]?
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 06:42 |
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The reason random drug screenings are illegal is because it’s discriminatory against drug addicts, which is considered a disability. It’ll be interesting when a train or heavy equipment operator or whoever is fired and their defence is ‘I’m addicted to weed’
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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I loving hate partisans so much. Blue santa, gently caress you.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 07:35 |
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HookShot posted:I'm the blue santa claus. Blue Santa: "HO HO HO! Why no, Billy, I can't just give you a tricycle, because what would that be?" Poor children: "Communism!" Blue Santa: "HO HO HO! That's right! But if you agree to work for me and exchange value for value, perhaps in few years you will earn that toy." A Tory Christmas Story
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PT6A posted:They'll just say, "I don't give a gently caress if you smoked ten minutes ago, a day ago or a week ago; you tested positive, find a job where impaired performance won't mean someone could die." I don't think that's unreasonable, either, at least until we have more data about how cannabis impairs people. As Drewjitsu mentioned the second a company does that they're getting sued.
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Gorau posted:Out of curiosity, and absent a fool proof test for weed intoxication, where do you think the SCC will come down on testing for safety sensitive positions? If one of my co workers is stoned and forgets to do something, or does it incorrectly there’s a good chance someone will die. Without a good way to test for intoxication, companies simply ban the substance as a precautionary measure. When weed is legal people simply say they were smoking on their days off which leaves the company no way to enforce a no weed policy. Basically. You won't be able to prove immediate intoxication without a breathalyzer and any job that requires those would not have people who smoke just before work anymore than having people drink before work. Most people are smart enough not to do that. If you can't prove their intoxicated at that immediate point then a piss test is useless because it's very easy to prove you're not intoxicated a day later.
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A Typical Goon posted:The reason random drug screenings are illegal is because it’s discriminatory against drug addicts, which is considered a disability. It’ll be interesting when a train or heavy equipment operator or whoever is fired and their defence is ‘I’m addicted to weed’ If you get pulled off a train for being drunk or high you get offered counselling and an addictions program first at the companies expense, if you refuse it then the company can give you a severance and call it a day.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 15:47 |
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cowofwar posted:I loving hate partisans so much. Blue santa, gently caress you. Blue Santa is like regular Santa except instead of giving children presents, he gives all of the presents to the job creators, and some of the presents trickle down to the subset of children whose parents work for those job creators (the rest of the presents go directly to the job creators' children or are placed in offshore present shelters).
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bunnyofdoom posted:This. But is it true that you once sat beside Sherry Romanado on the bus?
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 16:51 |
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Manspreadig is a serious problem
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 17:12 |
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My girl Sherry is a Greenfield Park girl through and through shame that we lost a pretty good MP (Sadia Groghiue) in favour of the Justin effect. Greenfield Park is a place similar to Surrey or insert other white trash neighbourhood of your choice where there's a financially disadvantaged anglophone community wedged between francophone Longueuil on one side,francophone/multiethnic Brossard on another and then the Upper class Anglo/Franco Saint Lambert towards the river. My workplace is there so we get lots of interesting types in our ER and wards.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 18:05 |
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gently caress Brian Pallister https://twitter.com/WabKinew/status/938830051293802496 https://twitter.com/WabKinew/status/938830761041412097 https://twitter.com/WabKinew/status/938831162021048321
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Is that 18 months for one person? That’s nuts.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 19:16 |
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Canada isn't the worst but certainly has a lot of catching up to do.
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Jordan7hm posted:Is that 18 months for one person? Yes it was extended to 18 moths in the last Federal Budget, you still get the same amount of money, it's just spread out longer. By not guaranteeing your job though the Manitoba PCs made that useless.
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DariusLikewise posted:Yes it was extended to 18 moths in the last Federal Budget, you still get the same amount of money, it's just spread out longer. By not guaranteeing your job though the Manitoba PCs made that useless. Yeah I just read up quickly on it. Seems like it’s already useless for anyone but the wealthy. I dunno I think 18 months is an unreasonable amount of time for an employer to be required to keep an empty job waiting, but whatever. And we were tied for 5th in paid leave in that chart. Not a lot of catching up to do actually. Unpaid leave is dumb in a world where you should expect to find a new job every 5-7 years.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 19:21 |
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It's just for the guaranteed right to the same position or like-work, you will still get the same total compensation from EI. It really isn't a burden on employers, they already resort to recurring contract work anyhow.
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Jordan7hm posted:
How on earth have you never heard of a maternity leave contract.
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Jordan7hm posted:Yeah I just read up quickly on it. It's not a burden at all, they just get contract worker for the 18 months. I know lots of people who got their foot in the door in offices this way. You work an mat leave contract for X months then they'll often just bring you in full time. Where it gets awkward is when the woman on mat leave was terrible at her job and a nasty person to be around so they really want to keep you and dump her but can't, but they usually find a way around it eventually.
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Risky Bisquick posted:It's just for the guaranteed right to the same position or like-work, you will still get the same total compensation from EI. It really isn't a burden on employers, they already resort to recurring contract work anyhow. Yeah, fair enough. I guess the extra 6 months isn’t that big a deal from their side.
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PhilippAchtel posted:Blue Santa: "HO HO HO! Why no, Billy, I can't just give you a tricycle, because what would that be?" No no no, you see what ACTUALLY happens is that Blue Santa gives himself and three of his friends 99% of the tricycles instead, but it's OK for Billy because if Santa and his friends get all the tricycles it will somehow help Billy when the tricycles trickle down. Also Billy is just a pre-friend, so it's in his best interests to go along with Santa for now.
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quote:Toronto police chief dispels rumours of serial killer in Church and Wellesley neighbourhood
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Jordan7hm posted:Yeah, fair enough. I guess the extra 6 months isn’t that big a deal from their side. But for the parents that six months is a big deal. Daycare availability and cost is pretty close to prohibitive for infant care, but toddler care (which starts at 18 months) is merely "expensive and hard to get" rather than outrageous and impossible.
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Everything about this is incredibly hosed up. quote:Her family alleged that police told them the case was “not high priority” when they reported Wells missing, given her homelessness. What in the actual gently caress.
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The Butcher posted:Everything about this is incredibly hosed up. Tess Richey's mother found her body in a stairwell a block from where she went missing, because the police have put so much effort into these investigations. E: There was a VICE article on a few of the disappearances a couple months ago, basically they got no coverage until very recently and it's unclear what resources were being put into solving them before the press started asking questions. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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I have gay and lesbian friends on my Facebook who have been sharing missing persons reports and disappearances for the better part of two years now. There is an ongoing problem in the village. I don’t think the police are investigating at all.
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The Butcher posted:Everything about this is incredibly hosed up. Transgenders don’t matter, you know that!
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Stretch Marx posted:As Drewjitsu mentioned the second a company does that they're getting sued. Wrong for Alberta. Pre-employment, pre-access, and post incident testing already exists and is enforceable. Doesn’t matter if a substance is legal, it can’t be in your system at all as a condition of employment or site access.
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BC Liberal leadership candidate Mike De Jong, who you may recall is a simple farmer who does not use email, would like your email address.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 09:33 |