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prefect posted:Isn't Arkham a lunatic asylum? Is she crazy? All of Batman's rogues gallery goes to Arkham, crazy or not.
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Kwyndig posted:All of Batman's rogues gallery goes to Arkham, crazy or not. Doesn’t Penguin go to Blackgate?
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Dec 8, 2017 02:57
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Phylodox posted:Doesn’t Penguin go to Blackgate? Pretty sure. Or at least he used to. He's just a mobster with a penguin fetish. I thought Arkham was more for special cases like the criminally insane and those needing special containment.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:11
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Kwyndig posted:All of Batman's rogues gallery goes to Arkham, crazy or not. Not true. Catwoman was locked in Arkham for over a hundred murders she didn't commit, but took the rap for to protect a friend. Everyone should be reading King's Batman.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:12
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Proteus Jones posted:I thought Arkham was more for special cases like the criminally insane and those needing special containment. The Gotham District Court has ruled the definition of "insane" to include "willing to fight Batman more than once".
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Dec 8, 2017 03:25
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Or "willing to appear in public wearing that."
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Dec 8, 2017 03:28
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Well, a gal who dresses up like a cat clearly has issues.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:35
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prefect posted:Isn't Arkham a lunatic asylum? Is she crazy? Depends on how you feel about cat hoarding.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:49
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prefect posted:Isn't Arkham a lunatic asylum? Is she crazy? Imagine a woman running along rooftops, robbing houses and businesses while doing a rhythmic gymnastics routine, all while dressed in a literal cat suit. Imagine that in real life. In reality, you wouldn't even question it. In Gotham, she's joined by her boyfriend, a kung-fu master vigilante who also has an animal themed costume. They have fought an aligaor man, a penguin fetishist, two killer clowns, an immortal warlord and a shapeshifting mud man. I think Gotham's per capita crazy might just tip the scales a bit.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:51
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bunnyofdoom posted:another note: Damien has pitch black coffee, whereas Jon has no coffee. Most kids I know, if they drink coffee, drink it with milk and sugar if possible, whereas Damien is doubling down on his whole grim darkness thing. Well yeah, milk is a great source of calcium and vitamin d, helping your bones stay healthy for the fight. Batman doesn't take milk because it tastes sweeter, he does it because it's practical.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:57
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Also cools down the coffee to drinkable levels faster because Batman doesn't have time to scorch his tongue or wait for coffee
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Dec 8, 2017 04:04
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CzarChasm posted:Imagine a woman running along rooftops, robbing houses and businesses while doing a rhythmic gymnastics routine, all while dressed in a literal cat suit. Imagine that in real life. In reality, you wouldn't even question it. Also kleptomania is a real condition recognized by psychologists.
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Dec 8, 2017 04:19
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David D. Davidson posted:Also kleptomania is a real condition recognized by psychologists. Yeah, but I doubt the go-to treatment is locking the klepto in a hellish madhouse filled with murderers and lunatics.
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Dec 8, 2017 05:02
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Arkham is funded by Bruce Wayne with the clear goal of providing a revolving door for his foes. He's no hero. He keeps people around to fight to justify his fetishes and to never have to face his own issues.
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Dec 8, 2017 05:27
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ecavalli posted:Yeah, but I doubt the go-to treatment is locking the klepto in a hellish madhouse filled with murderers and lunatics. i dunno sounds pretty american to me
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Dec 8, 2017 05:31
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ecavalli posted:Yeah, but I doubt the go-to treatment is locking the klepto in a hellish madhouse filled with murderers and lunatics. She's also broken out of everywhere else at least twice.
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Dec 8, 2017 05:50
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Sounds to me like they have a better record at keeping her in than Arkham then. 
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ecavalli posted:Yeah, but I doubt the go-to treatment is locking the klepto in a hellish madhouse filled with murderers and lunatics. Yeah but she's a woman so that's the first place she goes anyway. She's lucky they didn't lobotomize her.
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Dec 8, 2017 10:28
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Johnny Aztec posted:Arkham is funded by Bruce Wayne with the clear goal of providing a revolving door for his foes. He's no hero. He keeps people around to fight to justify his fetishes and to never have to face his own issues. Oh, that's right, 'Lock-Up' never actually happened in the comics, did it? That one guard being as crazy/rear end in a top hat as any of the inmates.
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Dec 8, 2017 12:55
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I think it was Living Hell where the billionaire financier gets himself judged not guilty by reason of insanity, the judge is laughing his rear end off and sends him to Arkham as a “gently caress you, I lost my pension too thanks to you, rear end in a top hat.”
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Dec 8, 2017 15:12
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Let's be clear - an asylum would probably be a sensible place to put them, and the intent was probably to show Batman was kind and thoughtful enough to help his enemies get treatment. Except, duh, comics run forever for some dumb reason, which means in order to maintain the status quo the baddies have to escape, which over the long term makes it look like that's the point of Arkham.
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Dec 8, 2017 15:20
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TheCenturion posted:I think it was Living Hell where the billionaire financier gets himself judged not guilty by reason of insanity, the judge is laughing his rear end off and sends him to Arkham as a “gently caress you, I lost my pension too thanks to you, rear end in a top hat.” And then Joker locked him in a freezer, he got frostbite, his nose fell off and he filed down his teeth and started calling himself "the great white shark."
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Dec 8, 2017 16:32
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TheCenturion posted:I think it was Living Hell where the billionaire financier gets himself judged not guilty by reason of insanity, the judge is laughing his rear end off and sends him to Arkham as a “gently caress you, I lost my pension too thanks to you, rear end in a top hat.” My favorite part of that was when Joker met the guy in the shower. 
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Dec 8, 2017 16:41
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Keeshhound posted:And then Joker locked him in a freezer, he got frostbite, his nose fell off and he filed down his teeth and started calling himself "the great white shark." It wasn't the Joker, it was Jane Doe, a villain Slott invented for the miniseries. Her MO is that she has no identity of her own and compulsively murders other people to steal their lives and identities using uncannily good disguises. It's good stuff. I reread it recently and while it falls apart a little towards the end with the introduction of Etrigan and the literal demons from Hell, the first issue is an especially tight and compelling bit of horror writing in the universe.
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Dec 8, 2017 16:43
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Keeshhound posted:And then Joker locked him in a freezer, he got frostbite, his nose fell off and he filed down his teeth and started calling himself "the great white shark." I believe it was also strongly suggested to him that he find a big bad, and come to an 'arrangement' for his own protection. So he winds up becoming Two-Face's 'Coin boy.' Android Blues posted:It's good stuff. I reread it recently and while it falls apart a little towards the end with the introduction of Etrigan and the literal demons from Hell, the first issue is an especially tight and compelling bit of horror writing in the universe. I thought the story would have been way better if they'd kept it utterly mundane.
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Dec 8, 2017 16:46
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Evil Mastermind posted:My favorite part of that was when Joker met the guy in the shower. Fantastic.
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Dec 8, 2017 16:47
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Android Blues posted:It wasn't the Joker, it was Jane Doe, a villain Slott invented for the miniseries. Her MO is that she has no identity of her own and compulsively murders other people to steal their lives and identities using uncannily good disguises.
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Dec 8, 2017 16:50
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TheCenturion posted:I thought the story would have been way better if they'd kept it utterly mundane. Me, too. It's still great comics in the end but I don't think the demonic ritual business served the overall themes very well. Evil Mastermind posted:The thing I really liked about Raising Hell was how Slott created all these new villains who felt like established Batman villains. Right? You find yourself wondering when these characters first appeared, they're introduced so naturalistically. The flashback origin of Humpty Dumpty featuring Batgirl chasing him down is a really inspired touch, because it feels like exactly the sort of thing that would happen if he was an existing Batgirl villain being retooled and like the last thing that would happen if he was newly invented for the story - and yet he is.
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Dec 8, 2017 16:59
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TheCenturion posted:I thought the story would have been way better if they'd kept it utterly mundane. Totally agree. It goes completely off the rails once it swings into the occult.
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Dec 8, 2017 17:50
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Dog Kisser posted:Let's be clear - an asylum would probably be a sensible place to put them, and the intent was probably to show Batman was kind and thoughtful enough to help his enemies get treatment. Except, duh, comics run forever for some dumb reason, which means in order to maintain the status quo the baddies have to escape, which over the long term makes it look like that's the point of Arkham. If your plan is to make Batman look kind and thoughtful, you have already lost.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:33
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:If your plan is to make Batman look kind and thoughtful, you have already lost. TAS pulled it off several times
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Dec 8, 2017 19:59
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Android Blues posted:Right? You find yourself wondering when these characters first appeared, they're introduced so naturalistically. The flashback origin of Humpty Dumpty featuring Batgirl chasing him down is a really inspired touch, because it feels like exactly the sort of thing that would happen if he was an existing Batgirl villain being retooled and like the last thing that would happen if he was newly invented for the story - and yet he is. Holy poo poo, I had no idea. That part is so perfect.
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Dec 8, 2017 20:16
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Calaveron posted:TAS pulled it off several times TAS strats are different. Human writers can't just boost the sympathy meter by pressing up and down at the same time and perfectly clip through a wall directly to the heartwarming finish every time.
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Dec 8, 2017 20:18
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Doc Hawkins posted:TAS strats are different. Human writers can't just boost the sympathy meter by pressing up and down at the same time and perfectly clip through a wall directly to the heartwarming finish every time. That's a pretty good one, actually
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Dec 8, 2017 20:56
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Reminder that the best Batman story is entirely about an alternate Batman who runs Arkham Asylum and rehabilitates every villain he arrests while dealing with rear end in a top hat staffer Jonathan Crane.
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Dec 8, 2017 21:28
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Killer Croc trying his hardest to keep being a good person... it's a great story.
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Dec 8, 2017 21:43
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Mr. Maltose posted:Reminder that the best Batman story is entirely about an alternate Batman who runs Arkham Asylum and rehabilitates every villain he arrests while dealing with rear end in a top hat staffer Jonathan Crane. What's the name of it?
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Dec 9, 2017 00:15
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Kai Tave posted:What's the name of it? Batman of Arkham
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Dec 9, 2017 00:40
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kujeger posted:Batman of Arkham It's a pretty great story. I'd love to see a continuation that kept up the same level of quality.
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Evil Mastermind posted:My favorite part of that was when Joker met the guy in the shower. I enjoy these panels but Jokers unibrow is just... unsettling. I want to start whistling the Ed Edd & Eddy theme.
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