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Call me when the rest of the media starts covering it. This isn't like the Comey poo poo, that was wall-to-wall coverage across the entire media landscape when it dropped.
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Today in "undoing every single thing Obama did in office" https://twitter.com/thehill/status/939181802777907201
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the economy is not doing good for the majority of americans.
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Alter Ego posted:CNN and MSNBC aren't even talking about the story--their websites don't even mention it. Everything is either Russia or the sexual harassment allegations that have been flying in all different directions. Well, that does seem to be the biggest issue.
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol no. I've lost a lot of faith in humanity.
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If Moore wins it's not because of this "story" it's because Alabama is a shithole.
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Vladimir Putin posted:It’s always been an economic indicator regardless of what Trump says. When the economy is doing good it’s doing good.  "doing well"
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TheScott2K posted:Cool, how's the wage gap doing? The wage gap is not an issue that is, generally speaking, considered part of if the economy is strong or not. It is instead a political problem. You can argue that the general view on what a strong economy is is wrong, but you can't really be a smarmy rear end in a top hat to people using the generally accepted understanding. That's also because generally wage growth lags low unemployment and is one of the later results of a strong economy.
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TGLT posted:they never believed the victims in the first place Except the ones who were arguing that dating 14 year olds is no big deal anyway
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Vladimir Putin posted:Unemployment is 4.1% which honestly speaking is so freakishly low that it’s almost unheard of. Compare that to several EU countries where it’s > 10% or close. Average earnings per hour up 2.5% for the year. It's heartening to me that the unemployment rate is this low and yet Trump is still batting around the lowest approval ratings of his administration.
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HappyHippo posted:Except the ones who were arguing that dating 14 year olds is no big deal anyway I mean yeah, unfortunately there is also that group. edit: Basically though, I suspect anyone who was looking for an excuse to vote for Moore found theirs a while ago.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:loving lol at Fox News then. How do the news writers even sleep at night. On a bed made out of money
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TheScott2K posted:
Thank you. I meant to say doing well.
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Grapplejack posted:I've spoken with a couple friends in DC and I've gotten some mixed opinions on the Jerusalem change. Some people are happy with it, some aren't, one guy said he thought the change was necessary because we were never really committed to the two state solution and neither was anyone else and it's better than pretending to give a poo poo. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who has a family in Israel and asked him on his thoughts. He said that he had mixed feelings. Firstly he knows that Trump did what he did even though he doesn't give a flying gently caress about Israel and that Netanuahu is probably going to use this to distract from whatever and needs to go. My buddy is fairly left leaning and believes that Religious Jews need to get out of politics because they are loving things over for everyone else, the settlements need to stop and the 2 state solution is the only viable option. However, he said that he doesn't hate what Trump did, not because he agrees with it, but because the peace process was stalled, Netanyahu was not interested in pursuing peace but at least this will shake the status quo up and something, anything can happen now. I pointed out that war isn't a great way to shake things up because people usually die in wars which isn't a good thing. He agreed but it seemed he was just frustrated that nothing was happening, and now he is hoping that at least something can happen (of course he is hoping that that something will be a move to a two state solution which I don't think will happen now because Trump is a loving moron). Anyway, that is my report.
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So if I'm following this correctly, they're saying she did the inscription all the way back in the 70s, knowing that 40 years later he'd be running for Senate and she could have her revenge/ smear an innocent Christian man. That's extremely impressive long-term planning for a teenager.
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delfin posted:(Seriously. Tune in now and then. It's good for your brain to try to process flying bullshit of this intensity in small doses.) No, it's really not good for you or anyone else, even in small doses. It's perfectly fine to avoid that poo poo like the plague.
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And Let It Be Known, On December 8th, 2017, the #MeToo movement fell to the self-inflicted wound of a accuser who hid information about her supposed evidence. God Bless Roy Moore forevermore. AURIBUS TENEO LUPUM
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evilweasel posted:The wage gap is not an issue that is, generally speaking, considered part of if the economy is strong or not. It is instead a political problem. You can argue that the general view on what a strong economy is is wrong, but you can't really be a smarmy rear end in a top hat to people using the generally accepted understanding. My main point is that "lots of people are working!" tells very little of the story when so many of those people are working jobs that pay them poo poo and offer them no benefits. Someone having a job isn't much of an endorsement of an economy where working full time doesn't provide them with enough income to pay their bills. I realize it's a departure from the accepted view of "better job numbers = good" but I think 8 years of willing the political upside of low UE into existence for Obama has resulted in some people losing focus on reality.
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Nucleic Acids posted:Well, that does seem to be the biggest issue. Except that they were operating in bad faith yesterday and already Moore supporters. The notion that the victim and her allies hosed up because they gave people who wanted to disbelief them a flimsy excuse to do so weeks into a situation where they were clearly already disbelieving them is just so ... argh!
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Who gives a gently caress about unemployment numbers, simply having a job doesn't put you in a good position. It means next to nothing.
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TheScott2K posted:My main point is that "lots of people are working!" tells very little of the story when so many of those people are working jobs that pay them poo poo and offer them no benefits. Someone having a job isn't much of an endorsement of an economy where working full time doesn't provide them with enough income to pay their bills. I realize it's a departure from the accepted view of "better job numbers = good" but I think 8 years of willing the political upside of low UE into existence for Obama has resulted in some people losing focus on reality. You want to look at consumer spending since that's a main driver of the economy and takes into account both wages and marginal propensity to consume.
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Bragging about a 45% approval rating is pathetic. Weak. Sad.
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TheScott2K posted:My main point is that "lots of people are working!" tells very little of the story when so many of those people are working jobs that pay them poo poo and offer them no benefits. Someone having a job isn't much of an endorsement of an economy where working full time doesn't provide them with enough income to pay their bills. I realize it's a departure from the accepted view of "better job numbers = good" but I think 8 years of willing the political upside of low UE into existence for Obama has resulted in some people losing focus on reality. low unemployment is better than high unemployment high wages are better than low wages handily, sustained low unemployment generally leads to higher wages would you at least accept "improved economy" rather than "good economy"? edit Majumbo posted:You want to look at consumer spending since that's a main driver of the economy and takes into account both wages and marginal propensity to consume. I can't be assed to figure out per capita but it's gone very steadily up for the last five years fake edit: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.CON.PRVT.PC.KD?locations=US outside of the recession per capita household consumption has been going up since 1970 as I recall wages are also generally-up, just, you know, way way less for the lower quintiles and way more for the top Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Pollyanna posted:Who gives a gently caress about unemployment numbers, simply having a job doesn't put you in a good position. It means next to nothing.
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I actually posted that when before I knew about the story of the yearbook addendum. So now it's official.
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There was a story the other day that 40% of the US's wealth is now owned by the top 1%. gently caress your "employment" and your "economy" our brothers and sisters are still suffering.
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Pollyanna posted:Who gives a gently caress about unemployment numbers, simply having a job doesn't put you in a good position. It means next to nothing. Unemployment is low cause everyone is working 2 lovely jobs
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STAC Goat posted:Except that they were operating in bad faith yesterday and already Moore supporters. The notion that the victim and her allies hosed up because they gave people who wanted to disbelief them a flimsy excuse to do so weeks into a situation where they were clearly already disbelieving them is just so ... argh! I don't think she hosed up at all, she didn't do anything wrong. I really want to think that everyone who's said it is right, people who'd be "convinced" by this have already decided. I just don't want to see a repeat of the Comey Letter as the day goes on. Nucleic Acids fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Rinkles posted:I've lost a lot of faith in humanity. i just mean this won't change anybody's mind. this'll just allow people living in fantasyland to support their delusions.
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Too Shy Guy posted:It's heartening to me that the unemployment rate is this low and yet Trump is still batting around the lowest approval ratings of his administration. the current economic indicators and trump's approval rating are completely destroying a lot of models on how the economy dictates presidential popularity
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RiggenBlaque posted:What poll is that? I can't even find it I want to say it's from like January lol
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GreyjoyBastard posted:low unemployment is better than high unemployment we don't have high wages. the average worker makes about 1/3 of what they should be making.
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/939141953865822209 Collins, you know what you must do: take this Administration down out of revenge.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:low unemployment is better than high unemployment Not if they're a case of discouraged workers leaving the labor market. quote:high wages are better than low wages Not if it's a case of high end outliers deceptively raising averages quote:handily, sustained low unemployment generally leads to higher wages In America, employers will spend $500,000 making their recruiting site more colorful before offering someone $10,000 more in salary or giving existing employees a raise. quote:would you at least accept "improved economy" rather than "good economy"? I'll concede "might get better if it's not the product of a bubble" and basically nothing else in the face of improving UE numbers.
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Bragging about your 45% approval rating (in a bullshit poll)? Sad! 
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Donnie, the poll can't hear you, the numbers aren't going to go up just because you shout at them. ...or is 45% supposed to be "good"?
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Vladimir Putin posted:New jobs report shows a very strong economy. Say what you will, I’m happy about that. CNN reported it so it's obviously fake news.
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