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STAC Goat posted:And you're talking like there's a significant presence of voters who are not only sincerely undecided on this matter but also are going to be swayed by a Fox News headline but somehow weren't swayed by the other Fox News headlines. It makes no sense to me. Fox News was calling it a forgery yesterday. They're calling it a forgery today. If the argument is that good faith uninformed viewers don't read the nuance of a story and will just believe the headlines than why are today's forgery headlines more powerful than yesterdays? I think this is more powerful because it's the victim herself admitting an omission (or whatever you want to call it).
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Dec 8, 2017 19:28
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If the scoops aren't from the Washington Post or the New York Times then I always wait for additional reporting before getting excited
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Dec 8, 2017 19:29
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Rinkles posted:I think this is more powerful because it's the victim herself admitting an omission (or whatever you want to call it). Give a conspiracy theorist an inch and they'll take a mile.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:31
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Republicans posted:Give a conspiracy theorist an inch and they'll take a mile. You’re missing the point. Why would you give them an inch in the first place, George Soros?
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Dec 8, 2017 19:33
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Rinkles posted:I think this is more powerful because it's the victim herself admitting an omission (or whatever you want to call it). They were already claiming that the victims admitted discrediting facts and the RWM has been running headlines and dishonest stories about it. Nothing changes in their approach or message and the entire argument that "the details changed" seems to run directly counter to the idea of "low information voters who don't read stories critically or past the headlines."
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Dec 8, 2017 19:33
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Re: how amazing it is how low Trump’s approval rating is given the state of the economy: Yeah, how strange that someone who spent an entire campaign screaming about how terrible our economy is and how all the statistics about it are damned lies suddenly can’t get credit for an economy that statistics show is booming. Something something sowing seeds in the ground you’ve salted...
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Dec 8, 2017 19:36
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morcant posted:This sounds like a good idea? Either nothing will come of it, or a lot of defense contractors will suddenly be taking an extended Montenegro vacation
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Dec 8, 2017 19:38
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/939181802777907201 cool. just lollin at how many pointless petty "victories" your President can score against the American people
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Dec 8, 2017 19:40
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It amazes me how some folks in the mainstream media still haven’t caught on to the fact that they’re dealing with a president and a movement that literally wants to destroy them. If you get a “scoop”, you’d loving better make sure you have it nailed down six ways from Sunday, because otherwise you're just going to end up giving the enemy more ammunition.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:40
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This is literally a 40 year old Doonesbury strip. 
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Dec 8, 2017 19:41
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People who say that right wing lies about the victim's yearbook don't matter because reasonably what she said doesn't discredit her don't remember the Comey letter. That poo poo was nothing and anyone who was reasonably well informed and thought about it knew that. But it still swung the election.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:42
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WeAreTheRomans posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/939181802777907201 How are they trying to spin this as a good thing, I wonder? Has Breitbart or anyone weighed in? This is just so goddamned stupid and vindictive even for him.
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Ogmius815 posted:People who say that right wing lies about the victims yearbook because reasonably what she said doesn't discredit her don't remember the Comey letter. That poo poo was nothing and anyone who was reasonably well informed and thought about it knew that. But it still swung the election. what was the comey letter about again
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Dec 8, 2017 19:43
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Ogmius815 posted:People who say that right wing lies about the victims yearbook because reasonably what she said doesn't discredit her don't remember the Comey letter. That poo poo was nothing and anyone who was reasonably well informed and thought about it knew that. But it still swung the election. like 20 things swung the election.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:44
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TulliusCicero posted:I don't understand this pivot by the right wing media at all. They loving hate Franken and were practically salivating when this all came out. Now suddenly they are defending him getting a fair shake? Is this literally "how can they not back their guy despite him being a shithead, he is THEIR GUY!" dissonance, or is this because that wapo/cnn piece is on it's way and a lot of repubs are guilty as gently caress of sexual harassment or worse? the latter, they know moor may/probaly win and they will be stuck with giant evangelical zealot who is also a pedo. plus trent franks and fat gently caress and god knows how many others. as "the party of morality" they are hosed because most of the Moral majority nuts are also sex perverts or worse.
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did it say why. either way can't blame her.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:45
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Was she the Bannonite that McMaster wanted gone for months?
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Dec 8, 2017 19:45
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Crow Jane posted:How are they trying to spin this as a good thing, I wonder? Has Breitbart or anyone weighed in? This is just so goddamned stupid and vindictive even for him. Getting rid of "pesky" regulations so the airlines can innovate!
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Dec 8, 2017 19:45
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Ogmius815 posted:People who say that right wing lies about the victims yearbook because reasonably what she said doesn't discredit her don't remember the Comey letter. That poo poo was nothing and anyone who was reasonably well informed and thought about it knew that. But it still swung the election. That was a major national mainstream story and a new piece of information (or at least presented as one). They're not the same thing. Also as far as I know there's also no real evidence that significantly affected the election more than the dozen other things people point to as swinging the election. Because in an election as close as 2016 there are lots of potential things that could have changed it.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:46
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Reads like an expected departure without the fun drama, I'm afraid https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...m=.d4a65838565a
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Crow Jane posted:How are they trying to spin this as a good thing, I wonder? Has Breitbart or anyone weighed in? This is just so goddamned stupid and vindictive even for him. Southwest can go back to advertising about competitors' hidden fees I guess? But if anything comes up, its another job-killing regulation that's killing businesses. For, uh, reasons.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:46
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stone cold posted:i mean, Push El Burrito posted:Well cool I didn't know about that. An accusation that is about four years old at this point, with no corroborating evidence which he vehemently denies. Just for fairness sake.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:47
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Burning_Monk posted:Getting rid of "pesky" regulations so the airlines can innovate! innovative new ways to gently caress your rear end dry
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Dec 8, 2017 19:47
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RiggenBlaque posted:Reads like an expected departure without the fun drama, I'm afraid That's good, actually, it means we may get a better advent present later in the day.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:47
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Caros posted:An accusation that is about four years old at this point, with no corroborating evidence which he vehemently denies. Just for fairness sake. do you think he's gonna "hell yeah i raped her".
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Dec 8, 2017 19:48
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Ze Pollack posted:what was the comey letter about again It informed congress that an unrelated investigation (which turned out to be about Anthony Weiner sexting underage girls, because of course it was) turned up some emails that *might* have been related to the investigation into the Clinton email server (on a laptop Huma had used). This was framed as "supplementing" Comey's testimony to Congress about how there was no criminal conduct resulting from the Clinton email server, but every major news outlet at first ran with some variation on the headline "FBI reopens criminal probe into Hillary Clinton's email".
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Dec 8, 2017 19:49
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letthereberock posted:Re: how amazing it is how low Trump’s approval rating is given the state of the economy: It's got nothing to do with any of that. It's because he sucks. He sucks so bad that people hate him even when the economy is doing alright. If the economy tanks he'll be at 12% approval.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:49
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Caros posted:An accusation that is about four years old at this point, with no corroborating evidence which he vehemently denies. Just for fairness sake. If there's no evidence otherwise, always believe the victim.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:50
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In “elected white supremacist news”: https://twitter.com/stevekingia/status/939117527375990790
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Dec 8, 2017 19:50
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https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/939198492609843200 lol David Brooks  get hosed forever
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The only part of the yearbook thing that bothers me is that if (a) Moore wrote the main part and (b) Young Nelson wrote the date-and-time annotation -- and I have no reason to doubt either of those -- why didn't she say that up front, when she was first challenged about it? There's a big difference in presentation between: VICTIM: This was signed by Roy Moore. MOORE: That's a lie! Let us see it so that our 'experts' can prove it. VICTIM: The annotation was written by me. The rest is Roy's. and VICTIM: This was signed by Roy Moore MOORE: That's a lie! Let us see it so that our 'experts' can prove it. <three weeks pass> VICTIM: The annotation was written by me. The rest is Roy's. because that delay makes it look like she spent three weeks trying to come up with an explanation, even if that's not the case. Most people made their minds up about this election a long time ago, but this may end up being won by a very small margin. Even if this puts doubt in the minds of even a small fraction of the electorate, that's too many. delfin fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Dec 8, 2017 19:52
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Ravenfood posted:Southwest can go back to advertising about competitors' hidden fees I guess? But if anything comes up, its another job-killing regulation that's killing businesses. For, uh, reasons. I'm just imagining r/TD idiots twisting themselves into pretzels posting "hell yeah, I love paying hidden fees! MAGA!". Who the gently caress wants to give airlines more money, besides airline executives?
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Dec 8, 2017 19:53
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WeAreTheRomans posted:https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/939198492609843200 
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Dec 8, 2017 19:53
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Push El Burrito posted:If there's no evidence otherwise, always believe the victim. Actually the proper maxim is simply "don't discount accusations of rape and sexual abuse out of hand", which is a bit different.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:53
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Caros posted:An accusation that is about four years old at this point, with no corroborating evidence which he vehemently denies. Just for fairness sake. What does the accusation being four years old have to do with anything?
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Push El Burrito posted:So Cards Against Humanity bought a bunch of land on the border in order to delay the wall. If you bought into it you get multiple letters with little things they've done. Today I got this. That's on par with the Chinese factory they hired to do nothing so the workers could have paid time off a few years ago.
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