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Big Mean Jerk posted:Is it the ridiculous eyes or something else? I know absolutely nothing about the source material but the trailer looked inoffensively generic and dull. It's the eyes. Here's the trailer btw: https://twitter.com/Alitamovie/status/939215626987433984 the replies on the trailer is pretty hilarious. e:https://twitter.com/jesuisundziu/status/939220184912596992
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lol Alita looks like a character from The Incredibles running around with real people, who okayed that???
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Tars Tarkas posted:lol Alita looks like a character from The Incredibles running around with real people, who okayed that??? James Cameron
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Tars Tarkas posted:lol Alita looks like a character from The Incredibles running around with real people, who okayed that??? I mean she’s a cyborg so it’s not like it’s the most out there thing in the world. She’s literally not human.
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Tars Tarkas posted:lol Alita looks like a character from The Incredibles running around with real people, who okayed that??? I'm just getting a "meh" vibe out of it overall. I mean yes, there are some things that look like it's going to have some action in it, plus the title has "battle" in it, but it feels like it would be more like Bicentennial Man.
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DC Murderverse posted:I mean she’s a cyborg so it’s not like it’s the most out there thing in the world. She’s literally not human. Cyborgs are supposed to look like Transformer knock-offs! Did Justice League teach you anything?
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Holly poo poo they gave her anime eyes.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Is it the ridiculous eyes or something else? I know absolutely nothing about the source material but the trailer looked inoffensively generic and dull. Those eyes are distracting. Like, I'd be off-put by them, then get used to them seconds later, then the shot changes and it's back to the Uncanny Valley again. You're right about being inoffensively generic, I was getting the ScarJo Ghost In The Shell vibes from that trailer. All the cyborgs look like they're made of the same chromed template, nothing like the handmade custom jobs seen in the manga. Even Malaku/Guernica just looks like bigger version of the one guy (I assume he's Zapan). It also looks like it's basically a copy of the OVA.
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The eyes look loving awesome and I don't know what's wrong with y'all. Given what Alita is, it makes perfect sense for her to be a bit uncanny-valley.
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Fsmhunk posted:Holly poo poo they gave her anime eyes. Like, I think something like that would work in something that felt better executed. For example if otherwise she appeared human instead of an obvious robot with an anime head.
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Iron Crowned posted:I'm just getting a "meh" vibe out of it overall. I mean yes, there are some things that look like it's going to have some action in it, plus the title has "battle" in it, but it feels like it would be more like Bicentennial Man. The vibe I got was very "Blade Runner 2049 but with no subtlety at all," particularly those shorts that Luke Scott did.
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"All these other anime adaptations are failing, even though the source material is widely beloved! What are we missing?!?" *Glances back and forth between image of anime and image of lead actress* "Hmm..." *Enlarges eyes in Photoshop* "holy poo poo"
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DC Murderverse posted:I mean she’s a cyborg so it’s not like it’s the most out there thing in the world. She’s literally not human. Yeah, considering the source material, I imagine they're specifically going for a not-quite-human unease to heighten how hosed up things are and add an always-noticable signifier that she isn't a human or possibly even human-like. Eyes are one of the most significant aspects of human expression, and in BTS footage of District 9 the designers talked a lot about how they made the prawn eyes extremely human to make it easy to relate to them. This is the opposite.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:The eyes look loving awesome and I don't know what's wrong with y'all. Given what Alita is, it makes perfect sense for her to be a bit uncanny-valley. Going to second this. I like how creepy she looks.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Going to second this. I like how creepy she looks. Agreed, but only if it turns out that she was the bad guy the whole time.
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I can guarantee you that the majority of the reaction to this trailer is gonna be the anime eyes thing, and its not gonna be positive. I love the property hence me posting so much about the trailer, and that's a shame. But it is FASCINATING from an own goal perspective. Never seen this one before.
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The eyes are bad she is the drat robot Twilight baby grown up they are so bad I can't even pay attention to anything else in the trailer
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Watch them reduce the eyes due to the backlash, just like the Bane voice fiasco
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Fried Watermelon posted:Watch them reduce the eyes due to the backlash, just like the Bane voice fiasco Are they gonna not make her fully, horribly CGI tho? It's laughable.
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Shageletic posted:It's the eyes. She look like a midget Avatar cat person with the blue replaced with flesh tone in photoshop. James Cameron's new fetishes are real big fake eyes and drowning children.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Biggest issue with Tarantino doing Trek is there just isn't enough good old foreign scifi movies for him to steal from except maybe The Green Slime and Starcrash. Though i fully expect him to steal the boots scenes from Star Trek 6. He was like halfway to a decent The Thing remake with Hateful Eight.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Apparently Cameron is hard at work on Avatars 2-4 training his child actors to be able to hold their breath for 2-3 minutes at a time so they can film ridiculous underwater poo poo. This will surely end well. As long as John Landis isn't a co-producer it will probably be fine.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:The eyes look loving awesome and I don't know what's wrong with y'all. Given what Alita is, it makes perfect sense for her to be a bit uncanny-valley. Alita's appearance falling into the uncanny valley was never a thing brought up in the manga or anime; she looked no different than the human characters. It's an odd design choice, and I'm not a fan of it. The rest of the trailer looks pretty cool though. And I like the rest of the cast. Also looks like RR dialed back a bit on his usual flair which has me a little hopeful. I just really don't like the way Alita looks though 
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teagone posted:Alita's appearance falling into the uncanny valley was never a thing brought up in the manga or anime; she looked no different than the human characters. It's an odd design choice, and I'm not a fan of it. The rest of the trailer looks pretty cool though. And I like the rest of the cast. Also looks like RR dialed back a bit on his usual flair which has me a little hopeful. I just really don't like the way Alita looks though Honestly, I'd prefer if Robert Rodriguez was a little more ambitious here. The real criticism here, aside from "looks weird", is that it just looks boring. You'd think that a distinctive visual choice like Alita would be accompanied by other creative visual designs, but there's just nothing. Aside from her the movie looks boring as poo poo, which just makes her look goofy. Maybe the movie will be better, but the trailer is just not a good showing.
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pospysyl posted:Honestly, I'd prefer if Robert Rodriguez was a little more ambitious here. The real criticism here, aside from "looks weird", is that it just looks boring. You'd think that a distinctive visual choice like Alita would be accompanied by other creative visual designs, but there's just nothing. Aside from her the movie looks boring as poo poo, which just makes her look goofy. Maybe the movie will be better, but the trailer is just not a good showing. The song choice, the plot beats, they are all intensely uninteresting. Its a disappointment def, but that large eyes is still pretty great.
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teagone posted:Alita's appearance falling into the uncanny valley was never a thing brought up in the manga or anime; she looked no different than the human characters. It's an odd design choice, and I'm not a fan of it. The rest of the trailer looks pretty cool though. And I like the rest of the cast. Also looks like RR dialed back a bit on his usual flair which has me a little hopeful. I just really don't like the way Alita looks though I mean, yeah, it's not something the manga or anime did, but the whole point of an adaptation is to have a different take on the material, and I think the choice pretty much works. 
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teagone posted:Alita's appearance falling into the uncanny valley was never a thing brought up in the manga or anime; she looked no different than the human characters. It's an odd design choice, and I'm not a fan of it. The rest of the trailer looks pretty cool though. And I like the rest of the cast. Also looks like RR dialed back a bit on his usual flair which has me a little hopeful. I just really don't like the way Alita looks though That is and isn't true. Gally is drawn differently from other characters in the manga, especially the normal humans. You can argue that is just Protagonist Syndrome or whatever but there actually is a physical difference between her and most of the cast, including much larger eyes. (Even compared to the anime eyes of the cast.) It's nowhere as standout as it is here but she does have a difference in design.
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I'm not familiar with the source material, but the trailer shows other cyborgs so presumably this is supposed to be a science fictional world. Say what you will about Avatar's story, but at least the world of Pandora was just as strange and colorful as the Na'vi. For something that's been in the works for over a decade, Alita doesn't show nearly the same level of ambition.
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pospysyl posted:I'm not familiar with the source material, but the trailer shows other cyborgs so presumably this is supposed to be a science fictional world. Say what you will about Avatar's story, but at least the world of Pandora was just as strange and colorful as the Na'vi. For something that's been in the works for over a decade, Alita doesn't show nearly the same level of ambition. Alita's story is more character driven. The world building is cool, but the core of the story is about Alita's struggle with her identity. Part of that process of discovery is obliterating other cyborgs 
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https://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-r-rating-mark-l-smith-the-revenant-drew-pearce-lindsay-beer-jj-abrams-1202222161/quote:EXCLUSIVE: After Deadline this week revealed that Quentin Tarantino pitched a Star Trek film to JJ Abrams and Paramount, the whole thing is moving at warp speed. Tarantino met for hours in a writers room with Mark L. Smith, Lindsey Beer, Drew Pearce and Megan Amram. They kicked around ideas and one of them will get the job. I’m hearing the frontrunner is Smith, who wrote The Revenant. The film will most certainly go where no Star Trek has gone before: Tarantino has required it to be R rated, and Paramount and Abrams agreed to that condition. Most mega budget tent poles restrict the film to a PG-13 rating in an effort to maximize the audience. That was the reason that Guillermo Del Toro’s $150 million At The Mountains of Madness didn’t go forward at Universal, even though Tom Cruise was ready to star. The exception to this rule was Fox’s Deadpool, but that film started out with modest ambitions before it caught on and became the biggest R rated film ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBMAHUkibY
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I mean, yeah, it's not something the manga or anime did, but the whole point of an adaptation is to have a different take on the material, and I think the choice pretty much works. If you assume that is their intent I guess but I doubt it.
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teagone posted:Alita's story is more character driven. The world building is cool, but the core of the story is about Alita's struggle with her identity. Part of that process of discovery is obliterating other cyborgs The setting is pretty tight as well, especially when they go INTERPLANETARY
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Gonz posted:https://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-r-rating-mark-l-smith-the-revenant-drew-pearce-lindsay-beer-jj-abrams-1202222161/ That's a real interesting writing room, Iron Man 3 (Drew Pearce) and Community/everything Ahram's has done have a great distinctive writer's voice to them.
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