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Coldforge posted:he's locked out of meddling for at least another two or three seasons Locked out how? I don't know much about the 9ers situation other than that York apparently caused it because Harbaough hurt his feelings or something.
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Inspector 34 posted:Locked out how? I don't know much about the 9ers situation other than that York apparently caused it because Harbaough hurt his feelings or something. GM and HC have fully guaranteed six year contracts for lots of money. The fault was apparently mostly former GM Baalke's (like with other teams, a power struggle), and Jed just backed the wrong person.
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SIx years with no offsets no less.
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Jed York is an awful owner and nobody should defend him. Alienating and then firing the third-best coach in Niner's history* instead of getting rid of noted terrible GM Trent Baalke is the thing everyone knows about, but the whole way the niner's garbage stadium wound up getting built in Santa Clara instead of SF was ugly and terrible, he went on to sue Santa Clara for being pissed off that the Niners org repeatedly violated its contract with the city and saying so, York and the Niners were sued for age discrimination, violated its contract with the goddamn girl scouts by canceling them in favor of a more profitable concert... just all kinds of terrible poo poo. Sure, he's defending the kneel protests better than most other owners, and that's great - but of course he is, he knows fans in the SF bay area expect him to, it's not a brave move at all. Even if the niners do a lot better next year, it'll be in spite of York and not because of him. gently caress that guy. *Bill Walsh is #1 and if you disagree you can suck it, George Seifert is #2, and yes Buck Shaw was great but Harbaugh's win percentage was actually slightly better and Shaw was coaching a pretty different game so it's tough to make comparisons anyway and also he went to the eagles and won with them so he's a traitor
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Jed york is a dumb trust fund pissbaby and i will write that on my tombstone.
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Leperflesh posted:Jed York is an awful owner and nobody should defend him. Yup. *looks around at the other NFL owners* Still fine with Jed right now.
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Dec 8, 2017 23:19
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I wasn't paying attention to the niners at all at the time, how did Harbaugh turn them around so fast?
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algebra testes posted:I wasn't paying attention to the niners at all at the time, how did Harbaugh turn them around so fast? They had a good roster that was being held back by bad coaching and a few missing pieces. He was a good coach and they managed to fill those few missing pieces that year (from FA, draft and players from the previous draft becoming better/starters). Similar to what the Rams did this year compared to last.
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Harbaugh had the dual powers of yelling, and glaring highly effective imo a football head coach can't be good if the yelling is sub-par e. this is head coaching at its finest    Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Dec 8, 2017 23:34
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If this doesn't motivate you to be better at football then I don't know what  
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Jed York looks like an episode of Friends where Joey stumbles his way into owning an NFL team. Just waiting for the climax where he gets shitcanned and the show goes back to status quo.
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Honestly even if Jim Harbaugh was incapable of winning a football game ever, I would still want him as HC just for the entertainment factor of watching him on the sideline being Jim Harbaugh.
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Leperflesh posted:Honestly even if Jim Harbaugh was incapable of winning a football game ever, I would still want him as HC just for the entertainment factor of watching him on the sideline being Jim Harbaugh.  Tbh though, he was even better when he stepped on the field. Always keeping in mind that HE WORE CLEATS when he coached so he could run around more effectively.   and of course, the classic: 
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Firing Harbaugh was obviously foolish but I kind of wonder whether it wasn’t inevitable. His personality is grating, there is always a team that he can’t seem to beat (Oregon, the Seahawks, Ohio State) and the team was definitely on the decline by that last season. At least this way Jed may have learned (to be determined) that he is an idiot rather than being able to pass the blame onto Harbaugh for not winning a Super Bowl until the end of his life.
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The players obviously loved him, and a bunch of them bailed after he was gone. The problem was Baalke, who in addition to being incapable of getting along with his winning coach, was also bad at drafting. And Jed, for backing his pal Baalke and putting that relationship ahead of all other concerns. I don't know this for a fact but I assume Harbaugh couldn't not tell Baalke how terrible he was at his job, and that's pretty much the entirety of the "personality conflict" they had with one another. e. haha I should probably watch college ball 
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I’m not saying Harbaugh was the problem with the team, he was a key part of the reason they were winning, but I think that even if Jed had somehow made the right decision that year and fired Baalke, the team wasn’t likely to return to a championship level for a few seasons. So you know Jed would then blame Harbaugh anyway with the excuse being the above mentioned characteristics. E: Admittedly, I’m also apparently an old white man at heart and can understand why people tire of Harbaugh because his meltdowns get old quickly and would get particularly old if you weren’t going to the NFC Championship every year. King Hong Kong fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Does a couple of guaranteed contracts really prevent an idiot from firing people? Or at least threatening to? Seems like Jed can still meddle plenty if he wanted to.
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Inspector 34 posted:Does a couple of guaranteed contracts really prevent an idiot from firing people? Or at least threatening to? Seems like Jed can still meddle plenty if he wanted to. People like money. Rich people REALLY like money.
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More than they like their ego or being in charge?
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Kyle is cool, but seeing all these gifs really makes me miss Jim  Inspector 34 posted:More than they like their ego or being in charge? Yes pizza valentine fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Does anywhere here follow college ball enough to judge how Harbaugh is doing in Michigan? I vouched for him to my grieving aunt, whose husband was a UM diehard, and I’d hate to think I was wrong. But so far it looks unspectacular.
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he got them their first top 10 season since 2006 and he's 28-10 through 3 years. he's fine
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Aren’t Michigan fans already channeling their inner Jed York because Harbaugh’s teams keep choking in big games?
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King Hong Kong posted:Aren’t Michigan fans already channeling their inner Jed York because Harbaugh’s teams keep choking in big games? I’m sure there are some like that somewhere because a lot of college fans consider any loss unacceptable, but he’s been pretty good for them so far. He hasn’t gotten over the Ohio State hump yet, but Urban Meyer is a ridiculously good coach and Ohio State is in better recruiting territory, so that’s not too surprising. He hasn’t had a decent QB yet. If he lands one they’ll probably win their conference.
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Also, it’s not totally fair to say they choke in big games, they absolutely blasted Penn State last year in a game that ended up keeping PSU out of the playoffs.
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His crop of seniors are coming through next season so as long as he doesn't tank and decide "gently caress this" and heads to the NFL he's gonna be there for life or whatever.
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Leperflesh posted:Harbaugh had the dual powers of yelling, and glaring Counterpoint: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/591/836/MuschampFreakout_original.gif?1351370116 That guy couldnt coach for poo poo
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DariusLikewise posted:I will be watching the game with some friends from my old city who don't care about football, but know the Rams have sucked for years and always made fun of me for it. Hopefully they're not making fun of you after the game Sunday. No one would have thought at the beginning of this season that this game would be one of the biggest games of the year. Crazy.
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Aw, crazy Jim Harbaugh. His teams were always good, but I can't think of another coach that was more fun to beat. That Seattle/SF rivalry was so fun, wish it could have had a longer period of parity. We really only got a couple seasons where they were at roughly the same quality.
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Alright, thanks, I appreciate the rundown.
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If you wanna get sad about entropy the passing of time and about how we're all gonna die watching that 2013 NFC Championship game on the NFL channel sure does the trick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G2_ruG44M4 Just like, two great teams before they were destroyed by the harsh ravages of time, racism and Jed York.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Counterpoint: Yeah no, where Harbaugh's yelling and glaring comes from a place of aggrieved outrage at the injustice, that guy in that gif looks like he's just barely holding back from murdering a player out of sheer malice and hatred. It's a completely different kind of angry yelling really.
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algebra testes posted:If you wanna get sad about entropy the passing of time and about how we're all gonna die watching that 2013 NFC Championship game on the NFL channel sure does the trick. I have this saved on my computer, I pull it up every so often to watch some holy poo poo crazy good football.
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I like this guy's youtube channel, wish there was more of this kind of film room content. I'd like to make some myself if I have the chance, but to be honest I need more football smarts before I start. In any case, check out his analysis on showing key plays in the Eagles/Seahawks game and how Russell Wilson was able to lead the Seahawks to victory against a statistically better team, without ANY KIND of a run game. If you're triggered by rub concepts, please don't watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4ZgPY1MdI
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im getting Trumped by my dad over baker mayfield. he wants to trade into 1OA to pick him and the heisman threw a truck of gasoline on that fire
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algebra testes posted:If you wanna get sad about entropy the passing of time and about how we're all gonna die watching that 2013 NFC Championship game on the NFL channel sure does the trick. "they" were destroyed?
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah no, where Harbaugh's yelling and glaring comes from a place of aggrieved outrage at the injustice, that guy in that gif looks like he's just barely holding back from murdering a player out of sheer malice and hatred. It's a completely different kind of angry yelling really. Accurate description of will muschamp
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shirts and skins posted:"they" were destroyed? One took the long fall and is struggling to pulling itself out of a giant chasm. The other is teetering a bit on the edge, trying to decide if it wants to let gravity take over. Give in to the impulse, Seahawks. Jump.
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algebra testes posted:If you wanna get sad about entropy the passing of time and about how we're all gonna die watching that 2013 NFC Championship game on the NFL channel sure does the trick. This game and the ensuing celebration remain the only time I've been kicked out of a bar. Still probably the best NFL game I've ever watched.
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