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ecavalli posted:Oh good, more baffling anime bullshit completely lacking in context. He kicked a dude. Really hard
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which is totally different from Superman being badass for punching a dude, really hard, because:
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Malachite_Dragon posted:which is totally different from Superman being badass for punching a dude, really hard, because: For one thing, we know who Superman is. For another, Superman punching a dude really hard is usually accompanied by some kind of contextual explanation of why anyone should care -- unlike that solitary anime panel which is completely meaningless to anyone who isn't well-versed in whatever the hell the source material might be. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's a whole squad of anime nerds nursing hard-ons for that image, but those of us without Naruto wall scrolls above our beds get nothing from it.
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Dec 9, 2017 05:07
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Thanks for establishing your superior taste and rejection of the comics of the perfidious oriental.
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I think OPM is great but that's pretty lacking of context and whatnot.
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ecavalli posted:For one thing, we know who Superman is. You had a good point until you decided to detour into whatever weird issues you have in the last paragraph.
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CharlestheHammer posted:You had a good point until you decided to detour into whatever weird issues you have in the last paragraph. You're right. I was punching down. I won't defend that wall scrolls comment. I will point out, however, that my issue is not a "comics rule, manga sucks" thing. It's that every few pages in this thread, someone (often the same person who posted the image we're discussing) posts a sole manga panel with no explanation, assuming other people should have any idea what it means. That person is then immediately called out for this, and it's carefully explained that context is a pretty important component of human understanding. Sadly, as we've just seen, there's always those who want to blame some kind of bias against manga instead of just telling Say Nothing to stop being such a lovely poster. ecavalli fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Dec 9, 2017 05:30
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ecavalli posted:You're right. I was punching down. I won't defend that wall scrolls comment. Well I mean people wouldn't have blamed that had you not gone down that path.
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You want badass? How about FLAME SWORDS and LASER DEMON EYES and CURSED CYBER-ARMS So an everyday dad gets a magic lamp for helping an old lady cross the street, and the genie inside promises to make all his dreams come true. ( read right-to-left )        Selected pages from Mizukami Satoshi's "Too Late For Fantasy."
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CharlestheHammer posted:Well I mean people wouldn't have blamed that had you not gone down that path. Valid point. I clearly did my argument no favors with my eagerness to mock Say Nothing. Squidster posted:A whole bunch of panels See, now THAT is some useful context! Squidster does manga right.
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Dec 9, 2017 05:47
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Even something as coherent as those panels, it still feels like a fever dream. Disjointed, missing info, jumping around
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Johnny Aztec posted:Even something as coherent as those panels, it still feels like a fever dream. Disjointed, missing info, jumping around thats kind of the point its a fever dream of his newfound self as a successful author smashing through the inhibitions of his youth that almost convinced him to give it up.
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I also did skip a bunch of pages showing buildup, Tokyo getting destroyed ( because of course ) so that I wasn't posting the entire short. It's the same author behind the Lucifer Princess & The Biscuit Hammer, and most recently Spirit Circle.
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AkumaHokoru posted:thats kind of the point its a fever dream of his newfound self as a successful author smashing through the inhibitions of his youth that almost convinced him to give it up. Nah, that's how all manga is. Most others is even more disjointed and nonsensical.
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There's a bit in Understanding Comics which gives a breakdown of the different kinds of panel transitions, and how Japanese comics use a totally different mix of them from American ones, but sadly McCloud fails to explicitly note that their way is bad and wrong, and ours is strong and pure.
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Doc Hawkins posted:There's a bit in Understanding Comics which gives a breakdown of the different kinds of panel transitions, and how Japanese comics use a totally different mix of them from American ones, but sadly McCloud fails to explicitly note that their way is bad and wrong, and ours is strong and pure. Even Homer nods.
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Oh we're posting about manga now? Cool. The Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer In this flashback, we find out the Origin Story of the villain, Aniums, and his sister, Anima, who's fighting him. They are twins, coming from the future, and they have somehow developed psychic powers. By experimenting with them they accidentally kill a whole spaceship full of people, and they end up in a hospital in a space station to recover from their injuries. Anima is really saddened by all the death and destruction they've caused, and wants to seal away their powers. Animus, on the other hand, doesn't want to, because he wants to be special. One of the doctors at the hospital, however, discovers that the twins have special powers, and is super stoked as this is clearly the next step in human evolution and humanity will become like gods. And he tells Anima and Animus exactly that. It... doesn't go well.        
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Dec 9, 2017 21:13
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Mikl posted:Oh we're posting about manga now? Cool. It's like a Looney Tunes short minus likable characters and entertainment value.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:36
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Please stop posting animes.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:39
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ecavalli posted:It's like a Looney Tunes short minus likable characters and entertainment value.  At least *something* happened, though. Not just incessantly talking about things. Still terrible.
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I imagine the difference here is that (for instance) you all know who Dr. Doom and Thanos are, by reputation if nothing else, so having them talk poo poo at each other and then Doom throws a punch and the purple one is a skeleton, seems cool and badass. Manga series don't have the same opportunity to build up that cultural freight, especially here in America.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:43
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Anime (and manga) are garbage and you are garbage for liking them.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:45
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goddamn yall are some sad dinosaur nerds
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Dec 9, 2017 22:01
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purple death ray posted:goddamn yall are some sad dinosaur nerds 
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Johnny Aztec posted:Anime (and manga) are garbage and you are garbage for liking them. We are all eating from the same trash can called Naruto.
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purple death ray posted:goddamn yall are some sad dinosaur nerds Someone made a Google doc a while back tracking it and I'm pretty sure the youngest person who even follows BSS is 30 so yeah pretty much.
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Dec 9, 2017 22:29
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Posting manga panels in these threads never goes well.
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Dec 9, 2017 22:44
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There's like a whole forum for animes. I don't go in there and post panels from Swamp Thing.
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Dec 9, 2017 22:47
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Maybe you should.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Maybe you should. You can do that if you want.
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I don't think ADTRW even has panel threads to begin with.
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Lurdiak posted:You can do that if you want. I don't have a weird performative hate of media from a specific country so I think I'm fine.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I don't have a weird performative hate of media from a specific country so I think I'm fine.  Yeah, it's specifically because it's from Japan. Sure thing, Chief.
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Roth posted:I don't think ADTRW even has panel threads to begin with. Convince people to read a manga in one panel/page/whatever
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Didn't know about this. Gonna bookmark it, because that's a neat thread idea.
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I have an manga avatar and like anime. The panels posted in the last 2 pages are poo poo, and I would not have posted them.
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When it happens so often it's a thread meme, and the only connection is the fact it's manga, it's probably not an objective judge of panel quality that's all I'm saying.
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Mr. Maltose posted:When it happens so often it's a thread meme, and the only connection is the fact it's manga, it's probably not an objective judge of panel quality that's all I'm saying. I think we've become risk averse to seeing manga in this thread because almost invariably: Toshimo posted:I have an manga avatar and like anime. It's either this, or they involve needing a more than a passing familiarity with the back story to know *why* it's "badass".
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Roth posted:I don't think ADTRW even has panel threads to begin with. I suggest ADTRW>Badass Panels: Pretty much just Hajime No Ippo
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Mr. Maltose posted:I don't have a weird performative hate of media from a specific country so I think I'm fine. Yeah you got me, I hate japanese media, which is why I'm currently watching Kurosawa films and plan on binging Takahashi Miike's work. It couldn't possibly be that I have an issue with a specific subgenre of Japanese comic's tropes and the way they're delivered in this thread by the same 3 posters even though no one likes it. I'd be just as annoyed if DT kept posting awful Red Hood panels or whatever. But hey, don't let reality or facts or common sense get in the way of trying to lay sick burns on posters you have ancient grudges against.
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