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https://twitter.com/ECQInfo/status/939028077991960576 PHON got as many seats as the Greens who didn't have 5-10 min coverage on the news every night. Eat poo poo Pauline
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EoinCannon posted:Problem is now the libs have come out against the tunnel so Dandrews won't be able to back out without losing skin Yeah, but don't the Libs still want to build the East West Link? I think there would be room for Dandrews to do what this report suggests (quoted below) without losing too much face (particularly if they then committed the spare $5bn to PT improvements instead): "The only reasonable response to the EES Panel process is for the Minister for Planning to scale back the $5.5 billion West Gate Tunnel to the $500 million West Gate Distributor in tandem with truck bans on inner western suburban streets – the projects and policies the ALP was elected in 2014 to build and implement." (p. 8) I reckon any loss of face from bailing on the WGT could easily be offset by what they propose with the spare cash if they target it well. Whitlam posted:Woodcock's a Green who's been actively campaigning against the Tunnel on the basis of "we can solve everything with trains!" for a while now. He's not exactly unbiased on the issue. Woodcock isn't the only person that wrote the report of backed the open letter that went with it. So while everyone is biased in some way, I'm not sure this is a very strong case of that. Also, from my experience with Woodcock (and pretty much other planning/transport academic I've met) it's less of a "Trains will solve X transport problem" and more a "alternative modes of transport will solve X transport problem", which in my opinion is probably pretty close to correct. While I have only skim read the report so far, I think it's important to note that the report isn't saying don't build roads (see their alternate solution quoted above), but that the wrong road is being proposed here. Overall, you could get similar results for less money while also opening up other options for additional benefits that the WGT doesn't provide. I highly recommend you read the report in full, but if you are short on time they sum up their main points on pg 23-24.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Hehe woodcock "Crystal Legacy" is better imo - sounds like some kind of lovely mail-order "collectable" that's like five payments of $80 you'd see ads for in the back of Women's Day or whatever.
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Sparticle posted:https://twitter.com/ECQInfo/status/939028077991960576 I really thought PHON did a lot better in primary vote than they did. The Greens almost got as many votes as PHON, which really surprised me. I guess maybe Queensland isn't Worst State by as large a margin as I thought. Maybe NSW is in fact worst state.
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The worst state is the state of hope.
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Anidav posted:The worst state is the state of hope. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
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Schlesische posted:I really thought PHON did a lot better in primary vote than they did. I think the Greens contested all the seats, although if they didn't they came close.
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One of the state's biggest home builders is battling a cheese baron in the Supreme Court, over a prime slice of land on Melbourne's northern fringe earmarked for a $1 billion new suburb. Dennis Family Homes has been negotiating with landowners in Donnybrook for almost a decade to secure hundreds of hectares of empty paddocks to convert to new estates. But one of the vendors, cheese millionaire Tom Montalto, argues he didn't realise – despite multiple meetings, briefings and contracts he signed – he was selling all of the land he owns. The Montalto family paid a touch over $1 million for hundreds of hectares of farmland in Donnybrook, near Whittlesea, in 1994. Back then, it was zoned green wedge, meaning multiple houses couldn't be built on it. Today, with Melbourne expanding forever outwards, the land has been rezoned for housing. It's now worth $353 million. How do we know that precise figure? Because that's what Dennis Family Homes agreed Mr Montalto would earn from selling the land. He signed contracts with the company in 2013, after seven years of negotiations. The 71-year-old might have signed contracts to sell the land – but in an epic 10-day court fight, he told Justice Ross Robson he didn't read any of them. He says he couldn't because despite the millions he has made running Floridia Cheese, a booming business with 60 staff, he has the reading abilities of a grade three student. He can read documents but only ones that are "simple – if they are simple", he told Justice Robson. But not the sort of complicated contracts required by Dennis Family Homes. Dennis Homes wants to call its new 5000-house estate Peppercorn Hill. Mr Montalto isn't happy about that either. He thought it was going to be named Montalto Hill, and the subdivision's streets named after members of his family, which emigrated from Italy in the 1950s. Dennis Family Homes argued that Mr Montalto could read quite well. He was at school until year 10, could translate Italian into English, and understood precisely what was going on over years of negotiations for the land. Mr Montalto drew his former law firm, Harwood Andrews, into the legal mess, saying they had failed to protect his interests properly. Until the case is decided, Dennis Family Homes cannot develop the land. Mr Montalto is happy to part with about three-quarters of his land, but wants to keep one corner for himself. He doesn't need Dennis Family Homes to help him sell that corner, he told the court. "Why do I need you to find me the buyer? I'll find my own buyer at auction," he said. The case finished late last month, and is understood to have cost all involved upwards of $3 million in legal fees so far. On Tuesday, lawyers for the four parties in the dispute were back in the Supreme Court, after Dennis Family Homes returned for specific permission from Justice Robson to enter the land, to start building a sales offices. In the end, Mr Montalto granted Dennis Family Homes permission to access the land. Justice Robson said Mr Montalto's refusal to part with the final parcel of land came despite "an agreement which would bring on them riches beyond everybody's wildest dream". Once the paddocks are carved into residential lots the total value of land sales is expected to be $1.1 billion, the court heard. When the Montalto family bought the paddocks, there was nothing but farming land as far as the eye could see save for the odd farmhouse.
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Anidav posted:
like say planning things so that in said old age we're not paying a bunch of private entities dramatically upmarked rates for formerly government assets?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:PHON only contested about 2/3rds of the seats, so their statewide primary vote was down on what it could have been. we ran 93 candidates, although several were only opportunity candidates. it was exhausting. more than twice as much work as the federal election in 2016.
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Lid posted:One of the state's biggest home builders is battling a cheese baron in the Supreme Court, over a prime slice of land on Melbourne's northern fringe earmarked for a $1 billion new suburb. Blessed be the cheesemakers, for they shall inherit the earth
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Land ice is not sea ice.
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Murdoch confirmed as The Thing. Keep those fires burning.
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Put Daisy in a Magdalene Laundry and have Peta Credlin as the abusive nun threatening to break her arm.
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Queensland is in fact best state.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Blessed be the cheesemakers, for they shall inherit the earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_XYn4Dgjrs
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Coal is the future! AGL snubs Coalition with decision to shut down Liddell plant Some of my favourite quotes from the article: quote:AGL has rebuffed pressure from the Turnbull government and confirmed it will close its Liddell coal-fired power plant, replacing it with a mix of renewable sources.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Coal is the future! The Liberals love coal because it is the only thing Santa ever gave them.
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drunkill posted:The Liberals love coal because it is the only thing Santa ever gave them. Also because coal fired power plants are new fangled technology in the same historical period their core ideology comes from.
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Dec 9, 2017 07:23
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Yeah, and so what? Andrew Robb is making more money than Dastyari. China and USA are playing geopolitics here, we're just the banana republic in between.
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ewe2 posted:Yeah, and so what? Andrew Robb is making more money than Dastyari. China and USA are playing geopolitics here, we're just the banana republic in between. A satellite state in a binary orbit between the USA and China. Mostly the USA but you never know what the future holds I guess.
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Me and Sam have watched alot of movies together
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Just saw on Facebook that Lateline is ending? What's replacing it?
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Ranter posted:wtf As you may have noticed the ABC is a victim of regulatory capture by the IPA and Murdoch. I mean that's it. There's nothing deeper to analyse.
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Ya'll better be worried about this. Over here in 'murica they don't have strong journalism asking politicians hard questions, keeping them on their toes, and it's a clusterfuck. I bet aus pols want softer bullshit just like it is here so they can get away with more shenanigans. Be afraid.
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Ranter posted:Ya'll better be worried about this. Over here in 'murica they don't have strong journalism asking politicians hard questions, keeping them on their toes, and it's a clusterfuck. I bet aus pols want softer bullshit just like it is here so they can get away with more shenanigans. We dont have this here already.
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