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Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days.
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Dec 9, 2017 18:57
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Artificial sweeteners are bad because they taste horrible.
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Dec 9, 2017 18:59
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. It's not, not really. There's not actually a whole lot of concrete scientific material saying so.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:01
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. Even diet soda can cause damage to dental enamel: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/diet-soda-erodes-teeth-as-much-as-meth-crack-case-study/ And there's strong evidence that artificial sweeteners can make you gain weight: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/artificial-sweeteners-weight-gain-time-review-studies/story?id=48676448
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Dec 9, 2017 19:04
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dont drink sodas unless its the only way you can choke down some lovely liquor at a wedding
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Dec 9, 2017 19:08
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. Someone else may have a stronger background but my college cell bio and orgo classes told me that: 1: humans can't break down artificial sweeteners (we lack the enzymes) so we can't extract the nutritional/energy benefits, making it great for adding flavor without adding additional calories 2: artificial sweeteners are many times (as in thousand-fold) sweeter than sugar (sucrose) so you need a lot less of it for the same amount of sweet (you can go on about how people insist that mexican cola and US cola taste differently because HFCS vs. cane sugar but that's a bit beside the point) Conventional wisdom tells us that foreign compounds (especially ones the body can't break down) in the body may lead to adverse effects (especially when the body tries to dispose of them), but in the case of artificial sweetners they're generally FDA-regarded as safe because only very small amounts are used. However, there are many animal studies showing that giving mice/rats large quantities of these fake sugars can cause cancer etc. (eg. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530). They're not outright toxic for you (these animals are often fed only artificial sugars, or amounts close to their body mass, and obviously the regular cane sugar you have is p bad too) so it's more a matter of weighing the risks/rewards
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Dec 9, 2017 19:11
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BigDave posted:And there's strong evidence that artificial sweeteners can make you gain weight: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/artificial-sweeteners-weight-gain-time-review-studies/story?id=48676448 Correlation/causation
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Dec 9, 2017 19:13
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. Short version is that there's a bunch of neurochemical stuff that happens when we eat that's more complex than calories in/out. In a laboratory setting it's probably more or less the same as water as far as impact on weight gain is concerned, but in the real world the effect on reward pathways, feelings of fullness, etc may result in different outcomes.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:13
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. There are also the old jokes about people ordering a supersize meal at McDonald's and having a diet coke with it. Which, I never understood the humor, because a large or extra large pop is going to add 800-1000 calories on top of the meal, with no nutritional value.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:20
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SimonCat posted:There are also the old jokes about people ordering a supersize meal at McDonald's and having a diet coke with it. Which, I never understood the humor, because a large or extra large pop is going to add 800-1000 calories on top of the meal, with no nutritional value. lol more like 300 for a large. 1000 calories is like 2/5ths of your daily caloric requirement. Probably less than 300 because the ice takes up a lot of space.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:35
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not caring here posted:Someone explain to a dummy like me how diet coke is so bad for you? I thought it was basically caffeinated soda water with some nutrasweet or whatever is the rage these days. I *think* one of the problems is it normalizes you to sugary tastes if you're drinking it constantly. So while the diet soda itself doesn't make you fat, you end up eating stuff with added sugar.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:39
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If my semesters of organic chemistry and biology have taught me anything, everything is probably bad for you in large quantities, so consume everything in moderation. Namaste.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:40
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KildarX posted:If my semesters of organic chemistry and biology have taught me anything, everything is probably bad for you in large quantities, so consume everything in moderation. Namaste. I'm ODing on water and air right now. I keep trying to quit them, but I'm hooked. Time to chase the dragon.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:48
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Chichevache posted:I'm ODing on water and air right now. I keep trying to quit them, but I'm hooked. Time to chase the dragon. you can die from drinking too much water
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Dec 9, 2017 19:50
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KildarX posted:If my semesters of organic chemistry and biology have taught me anything, everything is probably bad for you in large quantities, so consume everything in moderation. Namaste. (H)arm Reduction.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:57
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mlmp08 posted:This was posted over in Airpower, and it's a really dumb article that is a case study in logical leaps, stupid citations, unsupported claims, non sequitur, irrelevant fluff, with a drunk uncle closing rant from a couple retired JAGs. From a page or so back. But has there actually been any genuinely successful COIN operations that aren't Malay? Even Malay took 29 years all told, and the British still relinquished control of it in the end? Bolow fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Dec 9, 2017 20:04
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:you can die from drinking too much water Duh, it's called drowning.
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Dec 9, 2017 20:04
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You just just have weak genes. I metabolize and excrete water rapidly.
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Dec 9, 2017 20:05
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Bolow posted:From a page or so back. But has there actually been any genuinely successful COIN operations that aren't Malay? Even Malay took 39 years all told, and the British still relinquished control of it in the end?
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Dec 9, 2017 20:05
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Chichevache posted:I'm ODing on water and air right now. I keep trying to quit them, but I'm hooked. Time to chase the dragon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYtpU5b2ALk
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Dec 9, 2017 20:07
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Bolow posted:From a page or so back. But has there actually been any genuinely successful COIN operations that aren't Malay? Even Malay took 29 years all told, and the British still relinquished control of it in the end? Quebec? Northern Ireland as well.
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Dec 9, 2017 20:10
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Bolow posted:From a page or so back. But has there actually been any genuinely successful COIN operations that aren't Malay? Even Malay took 29 years all told, and the British still relinquished control of it in the end? Arguably: The American West (yeah... I know) Philippines ACW?
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Dec 9, 2017 20:21
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mlmp08 posted:Arguably: The american west is probably the best example because it does work, you just have to go all the way. It was hosed up and I'm not suggesting you should do that, I'm saying you're not gonna win wars through bodycounts unless you're prepared to destroy their civilization and population through whatever means necessary
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Dec 9, 2017 20:39
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KildarX posted:If my semesters of organic chemistry and biology have taught me anything, everything is probably bad for you in large quantities, so consume everything in moderation. Namaste. I'm working on finding the ld50 for marijuana. While rolling 20 years over the odometer of nonfilter cigarettes. How long until my lungs just jump out of my chest riddled with cancer and resin.
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Dec 9, 2017 20:42
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I'm working on finding the ld50 for marijuana. Everything I can find on that subject indicates pounds consumed in less than 30 minutes. If I had to guess smoking wise you'd die of the smoke entering your lungs before the THC itself kills you. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Dec 9, 2017 20:51
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I would argue that the American West was not an insurgency, because the American Indians had no neutral population to hide in. Bloody sectarian conflict, yes. Asymmetric warfare against the US Army? Certainly. But I wouldn't draw any lessons from it unless I was a big fan of Hugo Boss and Skull pins.
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Dec 9, 2017 20:51
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KildarX posted:
COPD is expected. Probably full out emphysema eventually. I'm not even to the screaming/vomiting phase of heavy use, apparently. And is that marijuana in raw form or thc concentrates like hash? Big difference if it's fresh cut raw or extracts.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:03
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:The american west is probably the best example because it does work, you just have to go all the way. It was hosed up and I'm not suggesting you should do that, I'm saying you're not gonna win wars through bodycounts unless you're prepared to destroy their civilization and population through whatever means necessary And then rapidly colonize with your own people with robust (enough) lines of supplies and communication.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:06
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I'm working on finding the ld50 for marijuana. While rolling 20 years over the odometer of nonfilter cigarettes. At my lab we're giving people 50mg of synthetic THC and they're still not feeling any effects. We're currently seeking approval to raise that limit too. I don't know about you or Shim but my colleagues have talked with some people who smoke more than 80 joints/day, so you might have a long way to go
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Dec 9, 2017 21:15
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BigDave posted:Quebec? I don’t think anyone could claim Quebec ever went into a full on insurgency.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:15
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Even more than the american west, China itself is probably the best example.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:17
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Suicide Watch posted:At my lab we're giving people 50mg of synthetic THC and they're still not feeling any effects. We're currently seeking approval to raise that limit too. I don't know about you or Shim but my colleagues have talked with some people who smoke more than 80 joints/day, so you might have a long way to go How the hell do you smoke 80 joints a day and not just be in a mindless haze the entire time? I mean, poo poo, I love the green, but I don't think I could smoke that much even if you paid me. Goddamn.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:19
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Thalantos posted:How the hell do you smoke 80 joints a day and not just be in a mindless haze the entire time? That’s marijuana addiction. Just think of a “functional” alcoholic.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:21
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hobbesmaster posted:That’s marijuana addiction. Just think of a “functional” alcoholic. Yeah those dudes don't even feel it anymore.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:23
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:And is that marijuana in raw form or thc concentrates like hash? Big difference if it's fresh cut raw or extracts. Toxicology and Applied Pharamcology circa '73 posted:For preclinical toxicologic evaluation, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), Δ8-THC, and Cannabis extract were administered po to rats, dogs and monkeys as solutions in either absolute ethanol, sesame oil, or sesame oil with 2.5–9.0% ethanol..[in Rats]dosage range of 225–3600 mg/kg, Δ9-THC and Δ8-THC produced the same lethality...In dogs and monkeys, single oral doses of Δ9-THC and Δ8-THC between 3000 and 9000/mg/kg were nonlethal https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0041008X73903104 So if my napkin math is right a dude could consume in a single sitting assuming a 150 pound man and 10% THC in Marijuana about 3 ounces of marijuana at one shot and not die.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:25
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Thalantos posted:How the hell do you smoke 80 joints a day and not just be in a mindless haze the entire time? Mind you the 80 joints/day is self-reported, but if they're not reporting any high after 50mg of THC, either the pharmacy messed up, or they have a really high tolerance I have no idea what these people do everyday aside from blazin it
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Dec 9, 2017 21:26
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ed-allegations/ Goddamnit. I’ve been listening to On Point off and on for over 10 years.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:30
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hobbesmaster posted:That’s marijuana addiction. Just think of a “functional” alcoholic. Speaking as a former "functional" alcoholic there's no such thing, just a drunk with rationalization.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:32
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I know people who drink 70 units per diem and still fully get their 401k match There is such a thing Not forever, but there is such a thing
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bob dobbs is dead posted:I know people who drink 70 units per diem and still fully get their 401k match You just described 80% of back office corporate in the Midwest.
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