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Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

I've heard Tommy Lee Jones is actually a gigantic rear end in a top hat

probably because he's about a million years old and people are still calling him "Tommy" like it's his turn on the god damned Slip N Slide

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Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Tommy let your friend play with the good Transformers or I'm calling his mom

Tommy you can darn well put on sunscreen while your dad fills up the pool

Tommy I don't care what he has but you're not getting a "survival knife" and your birthday is eight months away so don't even try it

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Pastry of the Year posted:

I've heard Tommy Lee Jones is actually a gigantic rear end in a top hat

Well, you know what he says to that?

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Wheat Loaf posted:

Well, you know what he says to that?



Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wheat Loaf posted:

One trend from the 90s was movies based on TV shows from the 60s. I think The Fugitive was the best one.

The Addams Family :colbert:

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

I may need to watch this show.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Wheat Loaf posted:

I didn't bother with Die Another Day because World Is Not Enough put me off enough, but if you told me it's actually better, I'd believe you.
It really, really isn't.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

die another day owns for the worst reasons but i love it

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
People putting dual windshield wipers on their cars.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

Sunswipe posted:

I'm sorry, what? I never watched Oz, so I only know what I've heard from reviewers and stuff, but I thought it was supposed to be a serious and realistic drama about American prisons?

Either in the last or second last season, some senator or whatever thinks it's a great to test out aging pills as a method to solve overcrowding in prisons. Take a pill and age a felon 20 years instead of having to feed and house them in prison for those 20 years.

One of the characters takes it, and the next morning his waist-length hair has turned loving white. :laffo: At some point someone in charge must have figured out how loving stupid this plotline was, because I'm pretty sure the nurse character just says, "oh, we stopped the pills, good thing the aging completely reversed itself," the hair is back to normal and no one ever brings it up again.

Oz is still worth watching though.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

die another day owns for the worst reasons but i love it

Same. It’s complete trash but I can’t help but like it

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Bobby Digital posted:

Same. It’s complete trash but I can’t help but like it

i like it way better than any of the craig bond movies tbh

ScentOfAnOtaku
Aug 25, 2006

I have no control, I just keep eating, and eating.

Sunswipe posted:

I may need to watch this show.

Oz is one of my favorite shows of all time. It's simultaneously hammy, poetic, and deeply dramatic, almost all at once.

I've watched through it a ton, and every time I find myself enjoying a new character from a new perspective which, to me, is the sign of a great show.

Of course, it also gave us this scene, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSlggxYFu28&t=116s, where you get to see a guy trying his best to be Derek Zoolander. I love the actor, and character, and I feel this perfectly sums up just how hammy the show can get.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro

Dysgenesis posted:

GoldenEye is my all time favourite bond film. Some of that may because of how much I played the N64 game at uni.

It's good as hell and I'm honestly shocked I'm not into S&M due to falling in love with wicked badass chick XENA ONATOP at such a formative age.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Rough Lobster posted:

It's good as hell and I'm honestly shocked I'm not into S&M due to falling in love with wicked badass chick XENA ONATOP at such a formative age.

:same:

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Rough Lobster posted:

I'm honestly shocked I'm not into S&M due to falling in love with wicked badass chick XENA ONATOP WARRIOR PRINCESS at such a formative age.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
GoldenEye is in my top ten favourite action movies for the decade.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Instant Sunrise posted:

At least in the united states, the cultural demarkation between the 90's and 2000's is mainly:
  • The Matrix
  • The Columbine Shootings
  • The rise of Fox News
  • 2000 Election/Bush v. Gore
  • September 11th.

The Matrix was a huge departure from the norm in terms of cinematic style, and it arguably laid a lot of the groundwork for the 2000s anime boom by being so openly influenced by anime. But movies, TV and commercials made after The Matrix came out really show the influence that the movie had.

Columbine was one of the first heavily publicized mass shootings as we know them today and it ended up being in the cultural zeitgeist for years afterwards. It blunted a lot of the 90's optimism that came with the dot com boom and contributed to the culture of paranoia that the 2000s would become known for.

The 2000 election was so incredibly close and contentious, as it was the first election where cable news and specifically Fox News was a major factor. In the 90's cable subscriptions weren't all that common, and most people still used local network news or if something was happening right then and there, CNN. Fox starts in the 90's but isn't a huge player in the news ecosystem until the 2000 election and 9/11, where it starts to become a factor in radicalizing the right, (a process started by right-wing talk radio in the 90's once the fairness doctrine gets repealed and Limbaugh goes on the air).

And 9/11 was the end of the 90's "end of history" optimism that came about front he end of the cold war.
This is spot on. One thing I would add is that stylistically, the color wash used to set the scene in The Matrix and to a lesser extent, Fight Club, became super common.

edit: also, that was around the time that computing power got to the point that almost realistic, non-cartoony CGI became accessible to movies with reasonable budgets and production timelines. There was also a huge amount of hype surrounding Bullet Time in The Matrix.

Laocius posted:

I feel like this is how every time period seems from the perspective of a decade or so later. A lot of the good, popular stuff seems "dated-but-not-yet-retro", so it gets ignored, and the hidden gems and cult classics haven't had time to find their audience yet, so it seems like nothing good ever came out. I'm sure I could come up with plenty of great stuff from the 2000s if I really sat down and thought about it.
It's still recent enough in memory that you remember the lovely stuff and can't romanticize the decade as a whole.

GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 23:43 on Dec 10, 2017

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

GWBBQ posted:

edit: also, that was around the time that computing power got to the point that almost realistic, non-cartoony CGI became accessible to movies with reasonable budgets and production timelines. There was also a huge amount of hype surrounding Bullet Time in The Matrix.

It blows my mind that Deep Blue Sea was about twice as expensive to make as Jurassic Park but looks so much worse because of those stupid CGI sharks.

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005
The CGI in the submarine sequence in Escape from LA is basically at the same level as the cutscenes in Playstation games around the same time, despite being a decently budgeted movie.

Doctor Bishop
Oct 22, 2013

To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits.
As much as people like to talk about where exactly they think the cultural demarcation between the '90s and the 2000s lies, personally, I think that very ambiguity just serves to further fuel my belief that the whole popular conception of the decade as a single unit of culture over time, separate and distinct from both preceding and subsequent decades, is fundamentally flawed at best. Because from what I've seen, it really seems that the late half of one decade and the early half of the next generally have more in common with one another than either does with the opposite half of their own decade, and I would say that the late '90s/early 2000s, despite the culturally-traumatic poo poo that went down right at the border between the two, are no exception to that.

Anyways, have some truly RADICAL stuff from the early '90s, BROTHER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gyjldxrU8

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
There are a lot of notoriously bad 90s movies that I can't help but wonder if they'd be considered 'good' by modern standards.

I still say the 90s Lost In Space movie isn't that bad except for the CG Monkey and some of the comedy. I wouldn't have minded seeing another couple films in that universe because it had a gimmick. Family displaced in space/time just trying to get back to human civilization. You could build a 3-4 film franchise out of that.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The Matrix popularizing slow motion and spinning cameras (often combined) reminds me of how the first Max Payne was so heavily influenced by it when it came out. It dropped in July 2001, so still in that border time when the turn of the millennium had hit but 9/11 hadn't yet ruined everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5PRRITJu8

Genderfluent
Jul 15, 2015

I think the thing that most separates the 90's and 2000's is the availability of the internet. Seems like by 2003 it was everywhere, and that's led to this hell world now

e: content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShiShrR_nh8

Genderfluent has a new favorite as of 18:03 on Dec 11, 2017

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

JediTalentAgent posted:

There are a lot of notoriously bad 90s movies that I can't help but wonder if they'd be considered 'good' by modern standards.

I still say the 90s Lost In Space movie isn't that bad except for the CG Monkey and some of the comedy. I wouldn't have minded seeing another couple films in that universe because it had a gimmick. Family displaced in space/time just trying to get back to human civilization. You could build a 3-4 film franchise out of that.

A tv show even. :classiclol:

Actually given the cheapness of CGI and the depth of tv shows, it probably could do well now.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

ryonguy posted:

A tv show even. :classiclol:

Actually given the cheapness of CGI and the depth of tv shows, it probably could do well now.

I thought they were in the process of a new TV show remake right now with Parker Posey as Dr. Smith.

But about 15 years ago there was another TV relaunch attempt with John Woo's involvement that was bad by even early 2000s standards. It never went past the pilot movie stage to the point that I don't think it was ever officially aired and someone ended up posting an unfinished effects cut on Youtube several years ago.

But given the long-term reaction to something like JP: The Lost World, Batman and Robin, Lost In Space, Wing Commander, Wild Wild West movies, I think to myself, "Are they really THAT much WORSE than movies that get at least passingly positive reviews or box office from today?"

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

JediTalentAgent posted:

I thought they were in the process of a new TV show remake right now with Parker Posey as Dr. Smith.

Lost in Space got to a pilot stage some time in the early/mid-00's before falling through.

One of their sets is actually the Remake Battlestar Pegasus' CiC :eng101:.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Neddy Seagoon posted:

One of their sets is actually the Remake Battlestar Pegasus' CiC :eng101:.
Matt LeBlanc as the Pegasus XO

uli2000
Feb 23, 2015

FactsAreUseless posted:

What you actually mean is "New Miserable Experience was an alright album." Everyone forgets they released more after their lead singer killed himself. They weren't good.

It wasnt the lead singer who killed himself, it was Doug Valenzuela, the guitarist and lead songwriter. Robin Wilson is still the lead singer. They have been touring for years in places like indian casinos (aka where bands go to die) and have been doing New Miserable Experience in its entirerty for it's 25th aniversary.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Grassy Knowles posted:

In the 90s, Oz was prestige TV.

Oz does not hold up.

First season still holds up. But the show does go to poo poo fast.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

GWBBQ posted:

This is spot on. One thing I would add is that stylistically, the color wash used to set the scene in The Matrix and to a lesser extent, Fight Club, became super common.

To the detriment of nearly all films.

Matrix did a cool thing where the real world was all grey and cold and blue and the computer world was all mute green and yellow and black colors, really cool filtering that kept you aware of which reality you were in.

Now every single gently caress movie is just orange & blue, they filter the hell out of everything by default without even thinking of why.

E: I remember the first time I saw Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (another classic late 90s film), I thought the filtering was really wild and cool. Now its so extremely overplayed.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

uli2000 posted:

It wasnt the lead singer who killed himself, it was Doug Valenzuela, the guitarist and lead songwriter. Robin Wilson is still the lead singer. They have been touring for years in places like indian casinos (aka where bands go to die) and have been doing New Miserable Experience in its entirerty for it's 25th aniversary.

Hey now, they also play at Epcot!

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

uli2000 posted:

It wasnt the lead singer who killed himself, it was Doug Valenzuela, the guitarist and lead songwriter. Robin Wilson is still the lead singer. They have been touring for years in places like indian casinos (aka where bands go to die) and have been doing New Miserable Experience in its entirerty for it's 25th aniversary.

This song still owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qB6XdAkkAo

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bonus 90s song from a forgotten band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK7bwIVrQFs

(I like this song :kiddo:)

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Zaphod42 posted:

First season still holds up. But the show does go to poo poo fast.

I got Profit the complete series a few years ago on a whim, remembering thinking the show was great at the time.

It's not, it is also poo poo. I'm thinking it's better if I never even try to watch Dream On again.

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Grassy Knowles posted:

I got Profit the complete series a few years ago on a whim, remembering thinking the show was great at the time.

It's not, it is also poo poo. I'm thinking it's better if I never even try to watch Dream On again.
Speaking of Dream On and 'most 90s thing', I present to the thread The Radioland Murders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6QAPhaLlww

Everybody liked Clue, right? What if we made a movie just like Clue but with all the joy and talent sucked out of it? There are exactly two jokes in the entire movie that land and the rest of the time you're just sitting there staring in horror as the cast tries to make things work.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
For some reason the mid 70s up through the early 90s had a real nostalgia boom for the 1930s-1950s, generally, with the 80s having more additional focus on the 60s and the 90s on the 1970s.

Was the whole swing music revival the 90s or did that happen later?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Mid-late Nineties, IIRC.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

JnnyThndrs posted:

Mid-late Nineties, IIRC.

yeah, right after the summer of ska

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Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
If people hated ska so much, why so many bands and so much genre blending?

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