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Chilichimp posted:Eh, he's telling jokes all day about the news on that account. Dave Weigel is a pro follow because of the hilarious takes, don't make this bigger than it is. Also it's good to support fellow goons.
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BardoTheConsumer posted:He's right though. It isn't even the same thing. Every time an outlet retracts a statement as false that is good for journalism, because the truth is what matters and sometimes gets lost in the race to be first. I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these. I don't give a poo poo about Dave Weigel, or anyone on twitter.
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hanales posted:I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these. Oh my god shut the gently caress up
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Making an error and correction isn't comparable to loving sexual asssult dude.
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TheScott2K posted:Oh my god shut the gently caress up gently caress you. Who the hell do you think you are?
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hanales posted:I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these. Why are people still talking about this after he apologized and issued a correction That's what journalists do, it's normal Any cares you have after that point are just you falling for Trump's bullshit
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Only person I follow on Twitter is dril because he's the only person who "gets" twitter Also he's pretty loving funny https://twitter.com/dril/status/930209246297448453 https://twitter.com/dril/status/912753223118749696
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enraged_camel posted:gently caress you. Who the hell do you think you are? Someone who knows that being mistaken about when a photo was taken and publicly owning it in a matter of minutes doesn't warrant condemnation and absolutely doesn't warrant comparisons to Al Franken. Stop doing Trump's work for him.
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Twitter has an issue with there being no real distinction between personal and professional accounts, something further muddied by the verification system that creates a privileged class of users. If you just want to state your opinion as a random opinion-haver then do it with an anonymous account, otherwise you're going to have to deal with the consequences of having your account tied to your professional role based on your name and/or all the other content you've posted. Lots of people are really bad about making a bunch of posts relating specifically to their profession and then posting some silly comment that they want to be interpreted as completely unrelated. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Dec 10, 2017 |
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Mercury Ballistic posted:I was making this exact loving point this morning in this thread and got poo poo about it. We can do better than sharing fake news is all I am saying. Blind Rasputin posted:This thread sure did for 10 pages in usual standard goon fashion until the actual video was released. The Koi Pond thing was an actual story run by a loving newsroom. The Pensacola Tweet was just some dumb thing Dave "twitter superstar" Weigel did in his personal time, on his personal account. This is a false equivalence.
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enraged_camel posted:gently caress you. Who the hell do you think you are? Your sweet, precious drama and it’s all home brewed.
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hanales posted:I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these. You just conflated a bad twitter take with sexual assault. You're clearing on the right side of this and shouldn't cool the gently caress off at all.
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TheScott2K posted:Someone who knows that being mistaken about when a photo was taken and publicly owning it in a matter of minutes doesn't warrant condemnation That's just your personal opinion. The journalism profession is under heavy fire, and the best way for journalists to defend the Fourth Estate is to follow journalistic standards of integrity and professionalism, the latter of which demands that the journalist verifies things before publishing them. These standards are not new by the way. They have existed for a long time. And the journalist in question works for a top-notch news outlet that is known for, among other things, historically important reporting of Watergate back in the day. In this regard, the way this guy casually shared fake news on his main account (which he has inexplicably tied to his employer) is loving shameful and absolutely deserves condemnation. Yes, the alt-right needs no excuses to poo poo on the mainstream media. But when you see a house on fire you don't casually throw firewood into it and say "well, it was going to burn down anyway".
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hanales posted:I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these.
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hanales posted:I'm talking to the people white knighting him who are saying it's no big deal, its his personal account, it's a joke. You know, the same arguments made about the Franken boob grabbing picture. "Our side" doesn't get a pass for doing the lovely things that the right wing does, especially when we sit around sniffing our own farts about how much better we are than them all day long in threads like these. He's not getting a pass for doing the same thing because he didn't do the same thing. Once you realise that, you'll understand why people are reacting poorly.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why are people still talking about this after he apologized and issued a correction Apologizing is one of the worst things you can do. I don't know why but it makes people even more bloodthirsty.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Apologizing is one of the worst things you can do. I don't know why but it makes people even more bloodthirsty. Anyone who reacts like that is feral.
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enraged_camel posted:That's just your personal opinion. It was a snark tweet that got corrected in 20 minutes. Please find something real to point all of this Care at.
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Dave Wiegel has single-handily destroyed ethical journalism and cemented Trump's reign for decades to come.
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enraged_camel posted:Only person I follow on Twitter is dril because he's the only person who "gets" twitter Uh, Metal WIthout Context should also be on your follow list. 
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Both sides are exactly the same, you see. Also dril is good people.
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enraged_camel posted:That's just your personal opinion. Oh jesus you cannot be serious. The guy screwed up, he realized it, he put it right. Christ alive that's the end of the loving matter.
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I mean, I think we can all agree Weigel should have checked for a Verrit authentication code on that picture before tweeting it. Like, guys, why even *have* Verrit if we're not gonna *use* Verrit???
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Furnaceface posted:Uh, Metal WIthout Context should also be on your follow list. @wresnocontext is legit too. I guess no context accounts are good is the point.
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hanales posted:Raw story published it as an article today. loving who gives a poo poo, Trump is still a disgusting pathetic attention whore whether Weigel hosed up or not and I don't really care if this story did anything to anyone. I just do not give a loving poo poo. Trump is literally setting fire to this country so he can be king of the ashes and Dave Weigel is still an excellent, incisively funny reporter. gently caress Donald Trump and gently caress anyone who clutches their pearls over this.
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alpha_destroy posted:@wresnocontext is legit too. I guess no context accounts are good is the point. @belkbowl is the only follow anyone needs
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I was going to be mad a that twitter guy for handing Trumpists a million years of fake news comments, but then I realized that they are going to do that anyway and they don't care about retractions/apologies/etc. Therefore he should re-post the tweet, but with a picture of the venue empty
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enraged_camel posted:That's just your personal opinion. Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It wasn't "journalism," it was a personal tweet. Beyond that, good journalism allows for making mistakes and correcting them. A bad journalist is one that never admits a mistake or apologizes.
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Arglebargle III posted:Jesus Christ I'm opposed to the death penalty but I think they should make an exception for officer Brailsford after seeing that video. The man's obviously a menace to the public. When I watched the video, I thought the shooter was the one talking to the suspect, but that's actually his superior officer standing behind him. https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...ting/864693001/ quote:The officer in charge during a police situation at a Mesa hotel last year testified Tuesday that he, too, would have shot the unarmed suspect, Daniel Shaver of Texas, when the man did not obey orders to put his hands up. But of course he's going to sell it that way. Langley was the one giving the confusing and aggressive instructions. If he doesn't say that he would have shot Shaver as well if he could - never mind that the other officers did not fire - it calls into question his handling of the situation in the first place. In my opinion, Langley is as responsible - if not more - for what happened to Shaver, but he didn't pull the trigger and has already retired and so won't see any consequences. Edit: David Brooks sucks. Zero capability for self-reflection, and yet bemoaning the lack of intellectualism on the right? 
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PhilippAchtel posted:When I watched the video, I thought the shooter was the one talking to the suspect, but that's actually his superior officer standing behind him. If a dude is on his god drat knees and his hands are up, claiming "he could have had a gun" is loving nonsense. If you think he's hiding a gun on his person go find it. Use of force doctrine in US police departments is completely hosed, and I honestly can't think of a better answer for it then disarming the vast majority of them.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Apologizing is one of the worst things you can do. I don't know why but it makes people even more bloodthirsty. "That apology wasn't sincere/wasn't enough" is the easiest thing in the world to say and has no real drawbacks in most public circles. In fact, it's a great setup for if you really want to tear into that exposed belly now that they've admitted fault. This is good sometimes, since it means that people genuinely hurt by lies or offensive statements face little real pressure to forgive and forget when a bad actor gives an obvious eye-rolling apology for something genuinely harmful. Other times it either allows people to play martyr when they've suffered no real harm, and creates a perverse incentive where if you do gently caress up you're probably safest to stick to your guns about it than you are to try to apologize. I dunno that there's really a fix that doesn't just incentivize another kind of rear end in a top hat though.
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Look at us arguing over this reporter's Twitter photo. I'm going to take a page from the right and just enjoy Trump's empty rally because it SHOULD be true. This is the perfect example of why fake news propaganda works so much better for conservatives than liberals.
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Deteriorata posted:Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It wasn't "journalism," it was a personal tweet. Hmm, so that's his personal account? Interesting. I browsed through his tweets and he has definitely blurred the line between work and personal life on that account. The description states he "covers politics at @washingtonpost", he comments regularly on politics and I don't see any disclaimers about his tweets being his own opinions and not that of his employer's. Again, goes back to the whole "lack of professionalism" thing. Companies I've worked for in the past have fired people for less. But you know what? It's okay. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
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Sublimer posted:Look at us arguing over this reporter's Twitter photo. I'm going to take a page from the right and just enjoy Trump's empty rally because it SHOULD be true. Probably because we don't keep believing it after it's been retracted, whereas conservatives cling even more stubbornly to their original wrong opinion because LOL U TRIGGERED LIBS.
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enraged_camel posted:That's just your personal opinion. Who the gently caress do you think you are posting your filthy opinions here *huffs away with arms crossed*
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