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Stephen9001 posted:Who wants to place bets on the pods either being the last survivors and 9S and A2 die, or if they sacrifice themselves in some manner? Or, if you really feel like betting on low odds, that both pods and 9S and A2 survive the final ending? Nier 3 will be the two pods and Machine on a Break.
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The next thing the machine network will do to 9S is make him kill Machine on a Break.
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Dec 10, 2017 00:33
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It is actually kind of hard to spare them because basically anything you do except immediately walking away means killing them. Attacking them, walking towards them, apparently even waiting too long?
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Dec 10, 2017 00:40
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Pyre of Word Salsa posted:Were there any other instances of that in the game?
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Dec 10, 2017 01:09
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So what happens if you try to fish.
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Dec 10, 2017 02:36
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Know Such Peace posted:Both Adam and A2's boss fights during Routes A/B would auto-trigger after a few seconds of not immediately fighting them. Do they? I know this game's been patched here and there, but I definitely left Adam alone initially for a good minute because I wasn't sure if the game was going to let me decide, force the issue, or spec-ops me into it. It seemed to be option 3 
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It may have been patched. Whoever you aren't controlling will eventually start attacking even if their combat is set to passive.
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Dec 10, 2017 03:59
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's part of the contract. No murder, you're not in the Yoko Taro show. Two managed for a while.
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Dec 10, 2017 04:46
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Remember that Two helped her sisters conquer the world at the time. She killed plenty of people. Also, the whole 'brainwash the masses into believing we are liberators not conquerors' thing. That she was genuinely kind and loved orphans was just icing on the cake. The murder cake.
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Dec 10, 2017 05:42
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You know, after Automata, all that stuff about Accord being an android and there being a ton of copies of her went from "HOLY poo poo" to just being kind of a given. Taro has a real talent for escalation.
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Child suicide? Oh Taro, you delightfully unpredictable scamp.
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 Pods."Hang on, are we growing free will? And personal identity?" "Maybe. Iunno. First things first, we gotta keep our dinguses from murdering each other and/or exploding." "Yeah, true. Don't die tho."
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Danaru posted:You know, after Automata, all that stuff about Accord being an android and there being a ton of copies of her went from "HOLY poo poo" to just being kind of a given. Taro has a real talent for escalation. I was honestly surprised she didn't have more of a presence since...y'know...she's an android. Instead all we get is a very vague reference to her once.
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GeminiSun posted:
I want to see them fistbump
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McFetusBurger posted:I want to see them fistbump They will but only in whichever ending is most difficult and tedious to get.
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Dr. Snark posted:I was honestly surprised she didn't have more of a presence since...y'know...she's an android. Instead all we get is a very vague reference to her once. What did Accord ever do to you that you would wish for her to be in another Yoko Taro game?
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Dec 10, 2017 08:38
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Maybe this timeline was already sealed, so there's no reason for her to be there... 
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Zoe posted:What did Accord ever do to you that you would wish for her to be in another Yoko Taro game? ... ...A fair point. I apologize for not thinking about the implications of my statement.
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Dr. Snark posted:I was honestly surprised she didn't have more of a presence since...y'know...she's an android. Instead all we get is a very vague reference to her once. She was name dropped, that's not vague at all.
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Zoe posted:What did Accord ever do to you that you would wish for her to be in another Yoko Taro game? She's responsible for the most "wacky" Japanese humor moment in the series, remember?  Some might consider that a pretty damning offense 
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Dec 10, 2017 10:23
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Bufuman posted:She's responsible for the most "wacky" Japanese humor moment in the series, remember? Accord did nothing wrong. Who wouldn't want to fondle Zero's breast? (And get immediately killed unless your name is Accord). This content has been deemed inappropriate for pretty much everyone. Please stand by.
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ultrafilter posted:Two managed for a while. Being murdered fulfils the murder clause.
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Dec 10, 2017 11:51
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Nier 3: Accord's time traveling adventure.
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I still don’t know if it’s weirder that we got a Drakengard 3 or a Nier 2.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:She was name dropped, that's not vague at all. She was namedropped and had a business flyer as an archive.
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Up to this point at least, there hasn't been a timeline split. Apart from her weapon selling business, being a Time Lord is Accord's main gig, so until we see things start branching (if they do, anyhow), Accord won't have much reason to be hanging around this time period.
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Dec 10, 2017 15:38
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Nier endings have always been funny compared to Drakengard endings Maybe Accord is assigned to the Drakengard division of things
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Ohhhhhhhh better idea the next game should star one of the time cops. Either accord or a close friend. Your job would be to shut down the boss fights of other games.
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Billzasilver posted:Ohhhhhhhh better idea the next game should star one of the time cops. Either accord or a close friend.
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Billzasilver posted:Ohhhhhhhh better idea the next game should star one of the time cops. Either accord or a close friend. Your job would be to seal off doomed worlds one after another as the Watchers influence creeps slowly and inexorably across the universe, knowing that the absolute best you can hope to do is somewhat delay it in reaching yours. In then in the end everything falls apart and all is lost and it's explicitly your fault, because Yoko Taro.
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Billzasilver posted:Ohhhhhhhh better idea the next game should star one of the time cops. Either accord or a close friend. I think "a close friend" in this case just means another Accord.
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DanielCross posted:Up to this point at least, there hasn't been a timeline split. Apart from her weapon selling business, being a Time Lord is Accord's main gig, so until we see things start branching (if they do, anyhow), Accord won't have much reason to be hanging around this time period. Ending F or whatever is just According showing up at the first Adam fight and giving him and 9S a connect four set
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I was under the impression Accord only interfered if the Cannibalistic Space Babies were in danger of "leaking" into other timelines. While the "logic virus" seems to be a manifestation of the Watchers, and it does do gravity schenanigans and wicked tattoos and glowing eyes; and robot cannibalism, that seems to be the limit. So Accord doesn't care. Edit: Although if you REALLY wanted to be more Yoko Taro, you could say that the Accord for this world was the one that got killed in Drakengard 3. So there' a hole in the net.
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Zoe posted:Your job would be to seal off doomed worlds one after another as the Watchers influence creeps slowly and inexorably across the universe, knowing that the absolute best you can hope to do is somewhat delay it in reaching yours. This sounds extremely cool. You would go through multiple timelines of the same story and have a strong narrative that's slightly iterated on with each fresh visit by the subtle differences in choice that cause timelines to diverge, and each iteration would unravel in a different tragic way because of the Watchers. You'd watch the same people suffer over and over in new heartwrenching ways. 
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Chillgamesh posted:This sounds extremely cool. You would go through multiple timelines of the same story and have a strong narrative that's slightly iterated on with each fresh visit by the subtle differences in choice that cause timelines to diverge, and each iteration would unravel in a different tragic way because of the Watchers. You'd watch the same people suffer over and over in new heartwrenching ways. Honestly you could have an equally strong narrative if you looked at something like Drakengard from an external perspective. Like you throw life and limb into trying to save the world, but is it really worth trying to save these lunatics and psychopaths that are damned and determined to kill each other? Either way though I'd approve of the high levels that would inevitably be present.
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ManSedan posted:I still don’t know if it’s weirder that we got a Drakengard 3 or a Nier 2. Drakengard 3 getting made is weirder than Nier 2 getting made, but Nier 2 being a resounding critical and financial success is even weirder than either of those
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The fact that Nier 2 is pretty much standalone without any Nier 1 knowledge helps a lot.
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People have argued with me on this but I honestly don't think it is standalone. You could play it that way, sure, but several plot points will sail over your head without you even knowing and a lot of events won't have their maximum impact. You'll understand most of it but it's a somewhat inferior experience.
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It's kinda like how people say VLR is playable without playing 999 first. Yeah, it technically is, but you REALLY should at least know the gist of the first game. I'm still sorta bitter about that 
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So, androids are just machines. Well, the futile struggle to save humanity makes sense. Machines are always doing futile things.
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