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Also, Joseph clearly has memory problems, and it’s unclear whether it’s because of his own experimentation, because of the curse itself, or simply because the human brain is not designed to retain two thousand years of information. Whatever the case, it makes his immortality significantly more hellish.
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Alder posted:Sorry, google told me immortality would be cool. Even perfect immortality, where you suffer nothing directly, sucks rear end because everyone around will die first. There's no end of media discussing that particular problem. But again, we fall back to the physical and mental issues as previously discussed.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Even perfect immortality, where you suffer nothing directly, sucks rear end because everyone around will die first. There's no end of media discussing that particular problem. But again, we fall back to the physical and mental issues as previously discussed.
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Nov 28, 2017 01:06
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I think it goes deeper than just memory problems. I'm pretty sure Alice has called him blurry to look at in the anime by now. Also, Chapter 33 and the creepiest panel in this manga. I'm curious to see where his story goes.
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Nov 28, 2017 01:25
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Oh, right, duh, how could I forget. Akatsuki no Yona deals with immortality real well too. It's also an incredibly good series in general.
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Captain Invictus posted:Oh, right, duh, how could I forget. Akatsuki no Yona deals with immortality real well too. It's also an incredibly good series in general. Did you just spoil a plot element that wasn't in the first season? Arghhh.
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Alder posted:Sorry, google told me immortality would be cool. Immortality is only cool if you have the option of offing yourself. Joseph's immortality is obviously pretty hellish if he's perpetually in pain, but the Casshern Sins kind of immortality would still really suck too - he can feel the pain of physical damage, but will always heal back to 100%, and is unable to die.
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There Bias Two posted:Did you just spoil a plot element that wasn't in the first season? Arghhh. I guess. At this point it's been a thing for years in the manga. Will they make more of the anime, I felt like it would be a one and done thing like a lot of series's adaptations.
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So like, this adaptation is visually gorgeous, the audio is incredibly good, and the base material is fantastic and I love it. After my previous musing and this episode I got to thinking like There's just something off. The timing of things, the slavish adherence to the base material like with the goofs (which work far better in manga form than they do animated here,) and the overall direction just seems... weirdly sub-par? Most things they get completely spot on but it doesn't completely hit the mark. It's the weirdest problem I've ever had with an adaptation because I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Mighty Dicktron posted:So like, this adaptation is visually gorgeous, the audio is incredibly good, and the base material is fantastic and I love it. After my previous musing and this episode I got to thinking like Some earlier posters hit the nail on the head I think by saying it's too faithful of an adaptation. The pacing/order of scenes and especially the shifts between detailed and chibi style are done just as they are in the manga, which doesn't work as well in an animated medium.
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Genocyber posted:Some earlier posters hit the nail on the head I think by saying it's too faithful of an adaptation. The pacing/order of scenes and especially the shifts between detailed and chibi style are done just as they are in the manga, which doesn't work as well in an animated medium. Yeah, this. Even though I have not read the manga the little breaks into chibi style actually feel like panel breaks in a manga, just not in a good way. 
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I like the chibi breaks. Keeps it from getting too serious. Except for the parts that are supposed to be serious. In this episode, we meet Best Succubus.
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I like the breaks as well. Perhaps that breaks the immersion for some, but I think it's cute. I'm still having trouble getting a sense of both Elias and Chise's personalities though. Chise says she's selfish, but really she's selfless to the point of self-destruction. Elias says his emotions are just a facade to make himself less alien, but clearly he cares for Chise, or at least behaves that way.
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There Bias Two posted:I like the breaks as well. Perhaps that breaks the immersion for some, but I think it's cute. Broken people not good judges of their own character, news at 11
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Silky with the hammer was the best moment in the episode imo.
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3rding the pro-chibi breaks. This show would be waaay too full of itself without them.
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is there a reason chise doesn't/can't/isn't allowed to buy gifts for silky? also why silky doesn't talk
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She's a brownie. She can talk per the manga, but I guess she chooses not to speak to most people.
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She's actually a silky, which is like a subset of brownie that wears (you guessed it) silks. It's not her name, but they use it like her name too which seems to be pretty common in this series where most of the fae don't seem to have names of their own.
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You'll notice in the early episodes they mention that her name is Silver, though yeah they generally just refer to her as Silky. There is actually a whole chapter devoted to her in the manga, I hope they reproduce it (They probably will). Also, goddamn I can't wait for them to release the OST. The music in this show is incredible.
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Tarezax posted:Broken people not good judges of their own character, news at 11 For instance, Chise thought the emotion she should have been feeling before the hammer scene was fear...
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The comedy breaks are fine on their own and might be good post credit shorts, but they interrupt very serious scenes way too much and thus detract from their emotional weight.
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ViggyNash posted:The comedy breaks are fine on their own and might be good post credit shorts, but they interrupt very serious scenes way too much and thus detract from their emotional weight. Eh, this show has enough emotional weight as it is. It'd be drowning in its own self-seriousness otherwise.
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Levity is no bad thing. This particular method of injecting that necessary levity, though, is pretty inept, and suggests the director doesn’t really get adaptive storytelling.
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So there was a bit in this latest episode that I'm not sure I interpreted correctly (or even that there was anything there to interpret at all)... When Chise enters Elias's room they are in his bed, and talking. And it switches to him prostrate over her, drooling? And then she wakes up on his bed, alone, and then takes a bath. Am I utterly wrong in interpreting that as some kind of sexual encounter? I am, aren't I?
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There Bias Two posted:Chise says she's selfish, but really she's selfless to the point of self-destruction. Her belief in the former is the cause of the latter.
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superLINUS posted:So there was a bit in this latest episode that I'm not sure I interpreted correctly (or even that there was anything there to interpret at all)... I think it's meant to be evocative of physical abuse, not necessarily something sexual. Elias says he has trouble controlling his body's actions and that's why he's locked himself up, and the moment Chise enters the room he is moments away from attacking her. When she's lying in bed with him slavering over her, she thinks to herself that the reason she's able to handle being in such a situation is because she's "cursed", and it cuts to a flashback of her mother on top of her, strangling her. She's staring up at this death-mask that's salivating at the thought of taking her life and she's like "somehow I'm used to this"
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Cephas posted:I think it's meant to be evocative of physical abuse, not necessarily something sexual. Elias says he has trouble controlling his body's actions and that's why he's locked himself up, and the moment Chise enters the room he is moments away from attacking her. When she's lying in bed with him slavering over her, she thinks to herself that the reason she's able to handle being in such a situation is because she's "cursed", and it cuts to a flashback of her mother on top of her, strangling her. She's staring up at this death-mask that's salivating at the thought of taking her life and she's like "somehow I'm used to this" Geeze that was so quick I had to pause it and go back to notice the switch. superLINUS posted:So there was a bit in this latest episode that I'm not sure I interpreted correctly (or even that there was anything there to interpret at all)... I think she was just bathing because he was drooling on her (because he was about to eat her, I think).
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Yeah, he was contemplating eating her. I appreciate that this series could go to really perverted places if the writing was lazy, but it always subverts expectations. See: the first five or six pages of this thread.
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I don't think it's implied that anything untoward actually happened; just came very close, which is a large part of why Elias leaves for the forest. Chise's knowing what almost happened and somehow being OK with it is yet another window into her broken mind.
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That's a solid reading. This series is fascinating!
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Labes for days posted:Yeah, he was contemplating eating her. what would a 5 million dollar meal taste like
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where the red fern gropes posted:what would a 5 million dollar meal taste like Regret.
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where the red fern gropes posted:what would a 5 million dollar meal taste like ham of despair
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Labes for days posted:Yeah, he was contemplating eating her. Yeah, I've been catching up and enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. Though, I know Japan likes random biblical references with no deeper meaning, but the Wandering Jew was kind of a weird one.
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Cuntellectual posted:Yeah, I've been catching up and enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. It's part of the show doing a "treating all myths/religion/folklore as true" thing. You got Japanese Yokai, Celtic faeries, English spirits, and all other sorts of creatures wandering the world. In a world with real magic, Jesus Christ got up to some pretty crazy poo poo.
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There wasn't really much to say about this episode. It certainly doesn't hold up as a self-contained segment in any way, but maybe it will come together in the next episode.
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There Bias Two posted:There wasn't really much to say about this episode. It certainly doesn't hold up as a self-contained segment in any way, but maybe it will come together in the next episode. it's definitely a 2-parter, going from the manga.
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Does Mitsuishi Kotono playing all these motherly characters late in her career retroactively reflect her being accurately cast as the ubermother in Sailor Moon, or is it just a natural side effect of being an aging voice actress?
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Tiny Elias. 
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