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KildarX posted:The south sucks, except for City of Atlanta and from what I've heard Savannah. That's my hot take. I'm an Atlantan, and I don't leave the city unless I'm forced to, so I basically agree. I'm visibly queer, so that adds to it, not really interested in getting dragged down the road tied to the back of a pick up truck.
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Doesn't Israel have mandatory universal military service? How would they have civilians?
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Thalantos posted:Doesn't Israel have mandatory universal military service? How would they have civilians? this is a dumb statement like super dumb
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Dec 10, 2017 17:30
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Smiling Jack posted:this is a dumb statement No kidding, even without mandatory service it's pretty clear that every male over the age of 14 is a combatant.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:31
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Smiling Jack posted:this is a dumb statement Which part?
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Dec 10, 2017 17:32
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Thalantos posted:Which part? The part where you assume they don't have civilians
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Dec 10, 2017 17:34
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:No kidding, even without mandatory service it's pretty clear that every male over the age of 14 is a combatant. So we could bomb Israel out of existence, you say? As per our conversations regarding COIN...
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Dec 10, 2017 17:36
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So Israel is using their own children as human shields?
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Dec 10, 2017 17:41
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:The part where you assume they don't have civilians I asked a question, whether they had mandatory universal military service. If they do, that means everyone is in the military, so they can't have any civilians. Exceptions for little children, the old, and those super orthodox Jews who have religious objections. But doesn't my general point stand?
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Dec 10, 2017 17:42
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So are the Palestinians using their children as human shields? Are the Israelis supported by the US best and brightest in order to bring about the Apocalypse and seat King Jesus upon his throne of skulls? Does Sodastream also manufacture white phosphorus rounds to use on the family homes of terrorists? I'm just asking the important questions here.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:44
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:Are the Israelis supported by the US best and brightest in order to bring about the Apocalypse and seat King Jesus upon his throne of skulls? This part is objectively true.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:48
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Thalantos posted:I asked a question, whether they had mandatory universal military service. Once a soldier takes their uniform off, they are a civilian. Legally speaking, you shouldn't indiscriminately kill people just because a country instituted a draft. Label someone a terrorist though, and all that goes out of the window. They are now a valid target under all circumstances, and that's just too bad for the people around them. Just for giggles, imagine the response if the Taliban started kidnapping/executing reserve officers on US soil.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:49
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Once a soldier takes their uniform off, they are a civilian. I disagree with this statement.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:51
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Thalantos posted:I disagree with this statement. You've been exposed to too many facebook memes. Besides, Israel probably has its' share of mental or physical invalids that can't serve for a reason or twelve. CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Dec 10, 2017 |
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Dec 10, 2017 17:54
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Trump would be made dictator for life and Mecca gets nuked so many times it cracks the mantle and forms a radioactive volcano.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:55
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Thalantos posted:I disagree with this statement. That's when they become citizens. 
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Dec 10, 2017 17:57
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ONCE A MARINE ALWAYS A MARINE RAH?
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:You've been exposed to too many facebook memes. I don't have any Israel stuff on my Facebook feed, tbh, I don't really care what happens in Israel all that much either way. And yeah, I looked it up and something like a quarter of the population ends up not serving.
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BigDave posted:In other news, Trump might be getting his very own Benghazi. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-embassy-beirut-lebanon-clashes-protest/ Welp I guess Mali doesn’t count as a black hawk down/Benghazi moment because one of the dead was black
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Thalantos posted:I disagree with this statement. Then you disagree with the definitions of the words "soldier" and "civilian," and at that point I don't know what to tell you.
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Dec 10, 2017 18:03
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I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand?
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Thalantos posted:I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand? Are you under the impression that all Israelis serve lifetime military contracts?
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Dec 10, 2017 18:05
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I'm not sure I ever actually met anyone in the military who thought they stopped being a soldier once they took their coat off for the day
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Dec 10, 2017 18:05
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who really gives a poo poo gently caress the military suck my dick from the back and gently caress you if you are still in
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Dec 10, 2017 18:06
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Thalantos posted:I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand? The compulsory service is only like two years, though.
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I think he's saying they are always in the military because they don't get a DD 214, the only thing that allows military personnel to assume the title of civilian ever again.
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Dec 10, 2017 18:08
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Thalantos said no one in Israel is a civilian since they all serve in the military. AreWeDrunkYet disagreed with him, saying once you take the uniform off, you're a civilian. It's pretty clear in context that AWDY meant "take the uniform off" to mean "leave the military," and Thalantos is either trying squirm out of a loving moronic claim about the definition of "civilian" or still genuinely thinks that 75%+ of Israelis are currently employed by the IDF.
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this is such a D&D-tier argument. BUT HE SAID AND THEN HE SAID who gives a poo poo
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Suicide Watch posted:Welp I guess Mali doesn’t count as a black hawk down/Benghazi moment because one of the dead was black What? No, it didn't count because it didn't involve a US Embassy. And I thought they were killed by seals.
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boop the snoot posted:this is such a D&D-tier argument. I saw your first post, Cole.
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Thalantos posted:I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand? quote:It's pretty clear in context that AWDY meant "take the uniform off" to mean "leave the military," and Thalantos is either trying squirm out of a loving moronic claim about the definition of "civilian" or still genuinely thinks that 75%+ of Israelis are currently employed by the IDF. You are a civilian as far as legally justifiable force is concerned if you are not actively involved, as far as I understand it. You do not need to be formally discharged - if someone lobs a missile into your family's living room while you are between deployments, that's a war crime. The US tending to be thousands of miles from combat zones lets us gloss over most of this. If Iraq took out a reserve barracks in Georgia in 2003, people would be indignantly calling it a terror attack.
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Dec 10, 2017 18:13
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Let's not try to mesh Israeli military activities and the law...nope, sure wouldn't want that.
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The blood-spattered killdozer got his DD214 years ago and now spends his retirement years pushing dirt around an illegal settlement
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Everything an israeli does is a war crime. It's not that difficult to understand. It's an illegal country filled with illegal people. They shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt.
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Dec 10, 2017 18:22
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Most Israelis spend 2-3 years as a conscript from about ages 18 to 21/22. From the IDF soldiers I've talked to, most of them live at home and take the bus to their post on the days they're required to report in. They can get away with this because Israel is smaller than New Jersey and a posting on the other side of the country can still be a 2 hour bus ride. Israel has an exemption for the ultra orthodox who choose to attend yesheva (religious school). Incidentally, ultra orthodox who were never conscripted make up a vastly disproportionate number of the settlers founding communities, sometimes illegally, in the West Bank because they have a religious obligation to reclaim all of Eretz Yisrael.
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My take from this is that civilian casualties if Seoul gets nuked just drastically got lower.
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:Everything an israeli does is a war crime. It's not that difficult to understand. It's an illegal country filled with illegal people. They shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. Thalantos posted:I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand? Maybe you guys can make a thread for easy-to-understand takes on current events.
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Zionism sucks and gently caress Israel. Jews have been historically pretty cool and good to me. I just don't honestly know what the gently caress to do and I don't envy anyone who has to make meaningful decisions in that region. It should be done by our most analytical and compassionate minds put together, but instead I cannot fathom Trump, Pence, or any member of his cabinet having any measure of compassion. Like past cabinets were filled with people that I disagreed with but seemed reasonable. This cabinet seems so self serving and petty, I just feel disheartened.
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If you think this cabinet cares at all about any compromise decision or one that gives Palestine anything just lol. I grew up with evangelicals (entire family) and their entire mantra is that the Jews are gods chosen and Israel needs to be fully restored before the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur. They also don't like to talk about the bit that mentions *all* nations will side against Israel before this happens though.
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Thalantos posted:I dunno what the equivalent is in israel, but in the us, if once you enlist, your not a civilian until you get your dd214. How is this hard to understand? TheGreasyStrangler posted:I'm not sure I ever actually met anyone in the military who thought they stopped being a soldier once they took their coat off for the day JFC people it's a figure of speech. "The uniform" is taken to mean military service and "take off the uniform" means to leave the service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche quote:A synecdoche is a class of metonymy, often by means of either mentioning a part for the whole or conversely the whole for one of its parts. Examples from common English expressions include "bread and butter" (for "livelihood"), "suits" (for "businessmen"), and "boots" (for "soldiers") (pars pro toto), or conversely "America" (for "the United States of America") (totum pro parte).
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