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Ive not seen a single spoiler, trailer or piece of advertising with laura dern on it outside of her being on i think kimmel with 8 of the other actors. Was she cut from the movie?
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banned from Starbucks posted:Ive not seen a single spoiler, trailer or piece of advertising with laura dern on it outside of her being on i think kimmel with 8 of the other actors. Was she cut from the movie? She was at the premiere the other night, and has been doing all sorts of international press for the movie. it's probably safe to say her role is intact. It's probably just that they want to keep her character plot under wraps.
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Dec 12, 2017 06:53
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I think he's referring to the fact that even the people posting spoilers seem to have forgotten she's in this movie. Which is usually a sign that a character isn't doing anything interesting or important and it's questionable why they're even in the movie in the first place
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Dec 12, 2017 07:36
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Apparently she's a Republic bigwig who survived the destruction of the government because she was elsewhere. She supposedly shows up and starts calling the shots after the botched evacuation of D'Qar.
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Dec 12, 2017 07:41
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It's crazy to me that Benicio Del Toro and Laura Dern are in this film and seemingly do nothing important. It's like they tried to one-up Oscar Isaac in the first film.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SNOKE GETS MURKEDquote:ViewerAnon[S] 6 hours ago Rian Johnson swervin' err'ybody with this drat movie. quote:ViewerAnon 4 hours ago If any of that is true, then....man. Man. Gonz fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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The Cameo posted:I think he's referring to the fact that even the people posting spoilers seem to have forgotten she's in this movie. It sounds like Poe, Rinn and the new Asian character who I have forgotten the name of are all pretty extraneous, as well (Finn and new girl have to find a way to disable the First Order tracking but Kylo tracks them to Crait anyway, soo...?) A few people have said that there are characters that don't really do much and the middle of the film is the weakest part. Gonz posted:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SNOKE GETS MURKED I'd say "I want to know how the Star Wars fans who insisted that the new EU was building Snoke up to be The Biggest Bad who even Palpatine was wary of are taking this" but you can just look at the various Star Wars Reddits. It's like finding out Santa isn't real. "How could the Story Group do this to us!" But then again, that comes back to my 'Wow, this new trilogy is cynical as gently caress' thought. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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Dec 12, 2017 07:54
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quote:ViewerAnon[S] 4 hours ago
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You know what, I’m down with Snoke going out like a bitch.
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Dec 12, 2017 08:01
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Ben Chewbacca Solo killing Snoke and taking over is a great idea and saves us from JJ's bargain bin Throne Room Scene.
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Somehow this sounds even worse than the previous "semi-legitimate" leaks where they were trying to find the old separatist droid armies. It's almost like they realized it was gonna make billions regardless and just focused on whatever would make epic trailers and pre-release intrigue to just fill the seats. SW has always been way more interesting when it was about about X-Wings blowing poo poo up and gun fights so I'm glad I got that in Rogue One and am free to put this to bed because this trilogy is likely gonna be loving wretched. gently caress it, recast Leia if they hosed up so bad they need a way out.
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Dishwasher posted:Somehow this sounds even worse than the previous "semi-legitimate" leaks where they were trying to find the old separatist droid armies. It's almost like they realized it was gonna make billions regardless and just focused on whatever would make epic trailers and pre-release intrigue to just fill the seats. SW has always been way more interesting when it was about about X-Wings blowing poo poo up and gun fights so I'm glad I got that in Rogue One and am free to put this to bed because this trilogy is likely gonna be loving wretched. gently caress it, recast Leia if they hosed up so bad they need a way out. I'm actually quite sad that Hayden Christensen isn't in it. At this point, there is no doubt in my mind that Disney will reboot the prequels as soon as Lucas is gone. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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Dishwasher posted:Somehow this sounds even worse than the previous "semi-legitimate" leaks where they were trying to find the old separatist droid armies. It's almost like they realized it was gonna make billions regardless and just focused on whatever would make epic trailers and pre-release intrigue to just fill the seats. SW has always been way more interesting when it was about about X-Wings blowing poo poo up and gun fights so I'm glad I got that in Rogue One and am free to put this to bed because this trilogy is likely gonna be loving wretched. gently caress it, recast Leia if they hosed up so bad they need a way out. Actually, SW was always more interesting when it had compelling characters moving through an interesting and creative storyline.
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For better or worse, I respect that they're not playing things completely safe at least. It would have been very, very easy to keep Luke kicking around as undefeatable fan service god man a la the old canon and I was strongly expecting it. Likewise for Snoke as Palpatine 2, at least through the next movie. Those are weirdly non-Disney decisions, so even if the movie is trash I respect Johnson for trying and getting away with it. However, it does strongly enhance the 'chaos reigns, kill you're parents, welcome to nightmare universe' feel that was creeping on the edge of TFA which I imagine will rub people the wrong way even if the movie can make it feel convincing.
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No Mods No Masters posted:For better or worse, I respect that they're not playing things completely safe at least. It would have been very, very easy to keep Luke kicking around as undefeatable fan service god man a la the old canon and I was strongly expecting it. Likewise for Snoke as Palpatine 2, at least through the next movie. Those are weirdly non-Disney decisions, so even if the movie is trash I respect Johnson for trying and getting away with it. Slowly veering into "THIS AIN'T YO DADDY'S STAR WARS" territory
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Jiro posted:Slowly veering into "THIS AIN'T YO DADDY'S STAR WARS" territory After the safe nostalgia of TFW I’m okay with this.
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Dec 12, 2017 09:14
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Han dead, Luke dead, Leia... whatever they're doing with that.
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Dec 12, 2017 09:14
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Nothing about these spoilers sounds remotely bad.
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Milky Moor posted:Han dead, Luke dead, Leia... whatever they're doing with that. Probably have a heart attack on her way to...........oh I dunno let's say Moe's.
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Dec 12, 2017 09:20
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Is the porg the "Last Jedi"?
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No Mods No Masters posted:However, it does strongly enhance the 'chaos reigns, kill you're parents, welcome to nightmare universe' feel that was creeping on the edge of TFA which I imagine will rub people the wrong way even if the movie can make it feel convincing. Just existing in 2017 is "kill you are parents, welcome to hellworld" enough for me, don't really have a want for it in my Star Wars.
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Dec 12, 2017 09:48
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Completely eliding all the mysteries is pretty hilarious (although also really boring), but more hilarious still will be what JJ does when he takes over again.
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porfiria posted:Completely eliding all the mysteries is pretty hilarious (although also really boring), but more hilarious still will be what JJ does when he takes over again. Cut to a church with everyone milling about waiting somewhere in Hawaii, only to reveal that everyone is there except Leia as she is still alive guarding the Island. Everyone else has died and will travel on to Force Heaven.
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I mean what do you do with a pointless derivative nothing character like Snoke if you can't find a satisfying """"mystery"""" to justify his existence? Between bad options it's probably better to rip off the bandaid and introduce an actual villain than to muddle along with him, I guess
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porfiria posted:Completely eliding all the mysteries is pretty hilarious (although also really boring), but more hilarious still will be what JJ does when he takes over again. Snoke comes back, obviously. Like, I hated JJ's mystery boxes and thought they were the worst part of TFA, but just basically blowing them all up and shrugging is kind of weak, too. It makes TFA this strangely pointless film.
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The better option would of course have been to not pointlessly shoehorn The Emperor, Again Except Stupider into a story in which he didn't really fit. But we're beyond revising that, obviously, so a forceful pivot to Ben Ren that gets a good surprise out of the audience will have to do
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No Mods No Masters posted:The better option would of course have been to not pointlessly shoehorn The Emperor, Again Except Stupider into a story in which he didn't really fit. But we're beyond revising that, obviously, so a forceful pivot to Ben Ren that gets a good surprise out of the audience will have to do Yeah, absolutely.
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DrNutt posted:Just existing in 2017 is "kill you are parents, welcome to hellworld" enough for me, don't really have a want for it in my Star Wars.
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Dec 12, 2017 10:26
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In the grim darkness of the stars, there are only wars
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No Mods No Masters posted:In the grim darkness of the stars, there are only wars EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS STAR WARS AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, LUKE SKYWALKER. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD!
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Dec 12, 2017 11:00
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After reading all these leaks, I think Disney's shifting toward a post-trilogy future where people able to use the Force are everywhere. Like, a new order is established without Luke having to guide them just because after his sacrifice thousands of people around the universe realize they can move poo poo with their minds. It would certainly allow them to make a bunch of stories that make use the franchise's signature concept, without having to explain why in the face of it's known scarcity.
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No Mods No Masters posted:The better option would of course have been to not pointlessly shoehorn The Emperor, Again Except Stupider into a story in which he didn't really fit. But we're beyond revising that, obviously, so a forceful pivot to Ben Ren that gets a good surprise out of the audience will have to do The thing is, the idea of perpetual facepalm in motion Kylo Ren running the First Order makes me want an Episode IX in which the heroes have to survive and limit the damage while Ren proceeds to run the First Order into the ground hard, but being a danger to everyone around in the process. Just make the Empire-analogue as uncool as possible in it's failure. I doubt we'd get this from J.J. though.
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This is the universe where apparently a weird backwards rump state run by a nonsensical mystery lump man can build a weapon far superior to the death star and then have it be destroyed with no apparent consequences on their wartime footing whatsoever. I think we're beyond kylo ren's management style having any impact on their function. The first order will always be as overwhelmingly powerful as is necessary to drive a script, until they aren't at the very end
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No Mods No Masters posted:The better option would of course have been to not pointlessly shoehorn The Emperor, Again Except Stupider into a story in which he didn't really fit. The entire First Order is "what if the Empire, but f00kin HUUUUUUUUGE" which I have to say really grinds at me. How the hell did a small faction of Imperial loyalists that survived at the rim of the galaxy for 30 years manage to manufacture an array of weapons that is twenty bazillions gajillions times bigger and more powerful than what the Empire could do over a similarly long term of absolute rule? I was one of those kids that would draw imaginary space battles on a blank piece of paper, making bigger and bigger boxes and scribbling more and more and more lines of ink representing the exchange of fire between these increasingly larger vessels. The battle at the end of Episode 2 reminded me of that, but the First Order feels like it was taken seriously.
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Craptacular! posted:The entire First Order is "what if the Empire, but f00kin HUUUUUUUUGE" which I have to say really grinds at me. How the hell did a small faction of Imperial loyalists that survived at the rim of the galaxy for 30 years manage to manufacture an array of weapons that is twenty bazillions gajillions times bigger and more powerful than what the Empire could do over a similarly long term of absolute rule? they didnt wanna do a fascist insurgency and death squads. Leia needs to be a rebel AGAIN
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Wild Horses posted:they didnt wanna do a fascist insurgency and death squads. Leia needs to be a rebel AGAIN Apparently, there's a line in the film where Phasma calls Finn scum and he's all "REBEL scum  " and ugghghhhhAll the people saying it's like a Marvel film...
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the RLM nerd crew video said that finn and phasma have a long winded battle then finn dies but idk if they were trolling or not (they did say luke dies and the film ends with kylo vs rey i think maybe they weren't really talking about the movie seriously)
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drjuggalo posted:the RLM nerd crew video said that finn and phasma have a long winded battle then finn dies but idk if they were trolling or not (they did say luke dies and the film ends with kylo vs rey i think maybe they weren't really talking about the movie seriously) Finn and Phasma do fight. Finn wins and Phasma falls off a cliff.
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Craptacular! posted:After reading all these leaks, I think Disney's shifting toward a post-trilogy future where people able to use the Force are everywhere. Like, a new order is established without Luke having to guide them just because after his sacrifice thousands of people around the universe realize they can move poo poo with their minds. I guess Maz kind of presaged an outcome like that.
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