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Spacedad posted:Also remember that from investigations and polling, the allegations about moore was making alabama republicans MORE LIKELY to get out the vote for him. No, white vote was down. You read cherry picked garbage or stuff that didn't account for party fleeing causing self-selection in republicans.
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Spacedad posted:Also remember that from investigations and polling, the allegations about moore was making alabama republicans MORE LIKELY to get out the vote for him. Do you think those who still voted for Moore really believed he was a pedophile and that the allegations were true? I hope thats not the case.
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He died when I was two months old, but there's a better than even chance that my grandfather had something or other to do with that, and not on her dad's side. Again, I voted for Jones today. History rhymes, indeed.
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The exasperated "well FINALLY the blacks voted!" poo poo is freaking me out and I'm feeling like I've been here before Like, gentlemen, I'm not uh, certain you're aware of how literally black and white gerrymandered Alabama is. Or how loving strong their suppression is. Blacks weren't too blame for 2016, goondamnit. Edit: I'm referring to neoliberal Twitter Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Potato Salad posted:The exasperated "well FINALLY the blacks voted!" poo poo is freaking me out and I'm feeling like I've been here before I don't think I've seen it phrased that way anywhere; all the outlets I've seen have been much more neutral about it. Could you be coming into the moment with preconceived expectations about coverage?
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Potato Salad posted:The exasperated "well FINALLY the blacks voted!" poo poo is freaking me out and I'm feeling like I've been here before That's not the vibe I'm getting at all
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Quorum posted:I don't think I've seen it phrased that way anywhere; all the outlets I've seen have been much more neutral about it. Could you be coming into the moment with preconceived expectations about coverage? Neoliberal twitter, not itt Really should have clarified that, my mistake
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Potato Salad posted:Neoliberal twitter, not itt Twitter's gonna twitter, I wouldn't pay any mind. That goes for lovely leftist twitter, RWM death cultist twitter, neoliberal twitter, whatevs. Just enjoy the moment. (that's definitely a super bad take, but I don't think from what I've seen that it's a very common one across the democratic constellation; if anything, the takeaway here will be that focusing on turnout and the base with your policies and GOTV while using rhetoric to appeal to squishy moderates is a good way to go) Quorum fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Potato Salad posted:Edit: I'm referring to neoliberal Twitter Fruity Rudy fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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The punishment for a crime loophole in the 13th amendment is super hosed up on multiple axes
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Fluffdaddy posted:thanks and god bless! Go get 'em, Tiger.
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Casimir Radon posted:
I mean he is. Moore and those like him are just contemptible heretics and he's showing them his displeasure. 
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GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL GUYS!
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:lol what if Moore doesn't concede like legally what happens If Jones had won by 0.5% of the vote or less it would have triggered an automatic recount, but it looks overwhelmingly likely that won't come to pass. Moore can apparently ask for a recount anyway, but he has to pay for it. And even if he managed to scrape together the cash, well... Moore is toast regardless of how much he wants to kick and scream about it.
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The creationist pedophile lost, good
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Man I wish I had a gif of The Needle slamming down to 95%. I would make it into an emoticon and pay to put it on SA, and to hell with how well it turned out. Or just post the full-size gif in response to anyone who says "Hope is a lie".
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So apparently, we owe it to the poc communities for preventing white voters from loving up. So thanks guys! Also not surprisingly, there seems to have been widespread attempts at suppressing aforementioned communities from voting. Didn't help this time though!
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It is abundantly clear that God did not want Roy Moore to be Senator
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Lprsti99 posted:Man I wish I had a gif of The Needle slamming down to 95%. I would make it into an emoticon and pay to put it on SA, and to hell with how well it turned out. Or just post the full-size gif in response to anyone who says "Hope is a lie". Shouldn't be that hard to piece together screenshots shared in this thread from the last 20 pages. You ever make a gif before?
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I can't believe a Democrat won in Alabama of all states. Incredible.
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Roy Moore is going to scream voter fraud, go on wingnut welfare, and stick to the popular consciousness like a tick, and it's going to be horrific and beautiful at the same time. Let every election hence be a referendum on Roy Moore and Donald Trump.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:Roy Moore is going to scream voter fraud, go on wingnut welfare, and stick to the popular consciousness like a tick, and it's going to be horrific and beautiful at the same time. Let every election hence be a referendum on Roy Moore and Donald Trump. It's already the narrative of his supporters
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Quorum posted:https://twitter.com/lyman_brian/status/940798815837270016?s=17 lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC
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Malcolm XML posted:lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC I guess we're ignoring VA and AL, ok
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Malcolm XML posted:lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC That has historically been the case, certainly.
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Malcolm XML posted:lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC Yeah, which is why they've been on a losing streak since 2008. Hopefully enough this seems to be changing for the better. Now if only they would get rid of the goddamn grifters and incompetents and channel that money to local orgs who know what they're doing.
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Confounding Factor posted:I can't believe a Democrat won in Alabama of all states. Incredible. I can’t believe that a vocally pro-choice Democrat won in Alabama of all states.
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 This is every state with a Republican PVI. Anyone at a PVI of R+15 or less is on watch now.  That's the 2018 Senate map. The only places that are safe are Utah and Wyoming. Mississippi should absolutely be targeted next year. When Wicker won it last time he got 57% of the vote. Dem candidate is currently someone named Jensen Bohren who I can't find anything about but the primary isn't for a while and they are trying to recruit Ray Mabus (former governor and Sec of the Navy) and Brandon Presley, the Public Service Commissioner. Democratic recruiting was already doing really well. It's about to go bonkers.
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Confounding Factor posted:I can't believe a Democrat won in Alabama of all states. Incredible. This is why it's important to reach out to minority communities. The next time you see someone who doesn't want the party to reach out, or champion our causes, remind them of Doug Jones. We win elections.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Still thinking Dems can pull an upset in Tennessee now that they've got Bredesen on board. i would rate it as him being one of the few Democrats with a chance but it still being a heavily uphill battle. Tennessee has been trending heavily toward the Republicans. it will depend on how the race shakes out. I would not dismiss Texas though even though it's not an open seat the state is plagued with low turn out elections and in a year where Democrats feel highly incentivized to get out the vote, Cruz could have a real fight on his hands.
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Malcolm XML posted:lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC There's no overstating the power of grass roots movements/support. I don't think national organizations can simply cut a check and build the political machines that carried Dems to victory in VA and AL this year. They were able to exist and do what they did because thousands of regular people got mad as hell and then got involved on the local level. Maybe the Kochs can astroturf this stuff right on the right, I don't know, but the left at least doesn't seem to work that way.
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Malcolm XML posted:lmao dems are loving terrible at local state level organizing. the dude who runs pinboard has done more for downballot/special/local elections than DCCC Welcome to the new age. It’s almost as if people learn from mistakes and change their thinking. Perez era DNC is dangerous. State level machinery has found the formula and VA/AL has the blueprint. All we have to do is ride the tide and do the work.
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I wouldn't get too excited, not every Republican is a literal child molester with multiple credible women willing to testify to that fact on the record. Strange would have won easily.
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Konstantin posted:I wouldn't get too excited, not every Republican is a literal child molester with multiple credible women willing to testify to that fact on the record. Strange would have won easily. true, but every state isn't Alabama, either we're probably not taking Oklahoma by force in 2018. But we might take Tennessee.
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Konstantin posted:I wouldn't get too excited, not every Republican is a literal child molester with multiple credible women willing to testify to that fact on the record. Strange would have won easily. Not every state with a Republican Senator running for re-election is as red as Alabama. Get an infrastructure like Alabama's/Virginia's in Arizona and Nevada, and Heller and the AZ nominee (assuming Kelli Ward) are toast.
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theflyingorc posted:true, but every state isn't Alabama, either Actually, take a look at the recent state level elections in Oklahoma. Democrats are winning in Trump districts.
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