Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.
Yeah, I bought it. It's me. I like the trashy junk on occasion. The Higurashi set was the main reason though. I needed chapters 2-5 so $10 is a steal.

This brings my backlog of VNs up to 62 :gonk:

I don't even want to think how many hours that's gonna be.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

there cant be more then 15 good games total there and thats being generous

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

Cake Attack posted:

there cant be more then 15 good games total there and thats being generous

I think most of what's there sounds decent enough. I'm not too hard on VNs as long as I'm given reason to care\plot doesn't move at a glacial pace. Everything can't be amazing. :shrug:

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


This thread really made me want Chaos;Child but there's no way in hell I can justify paying full price for a VN in 2017, year of amazing games. :( Of course it's not involved in the PSN sale, too.

gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl

astr0man posted:

Just be aware that IMHHW is very generic slice of life. If you enjoy slice of life stuff it's decent enough.

Generic slice of life with some cool glider stuff.
I could do with more glider porn and less wacky anime hijinks. (the world does not need a duck that steals panties)
I may be weird.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

The translation for If My Heart Had Wings is insanely bad. At its best it reads like bad engrishy manga scanlations and at its worst it's actual gibberish.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

The translation for If My Heart Had Wings is insanely bad. At its best it reads like bad engrishy manga scanlations and at its worst it's actual gibberish.

not only that, the translators basically rewrote one of the routes from scratch (because the sex scenes they removed actually mattered to the plot)

it was still enjoyable fluff for the one and a half routes i sat through; and the glider parts are legit interesting and probably the only really unique thing about the game (aside from having a disabled love interest, which was also neat)

but yeah overall i would never actually recommend it unless you're that starved for a high school life romance gliding visual novel fluff time thing

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007

food court bailiff posted:

This thread really made me want Chaos;Child but there's no way in hell I can justify paying full price for a VN in 2017, year of amazing games. :( Of course it's not involved in the PSN sale, too.

Personally, I decided to start a Gamefly subscription last month because I blow through games quickly, and I can get four months of Gamefly for one $60 game. Plus most games I play have limited replay value, so it works out really well for me.

My point is, Gamefly stocks VNs (I got Chaos;Child through it), and if you really want C;C, it might not be a bad idea to do a trial free month and get through C;C. Hopefully you can find a way to play it, it's been a ride.

I've played one and a half of the routes now, and I'm really liking the fact that they don't even try to stay close to the plot of the main route. They basically branch off completely and change events so much (to the point where I wonder why initially small changes change the outcome so drastically) that you really can't predict what will happen. They kind of use your preconceptions about knowing what's going on behind the scenes against you, and I'm enjoying that enough to not worry about the logic of the shifts. They go to some pretty dark places to, as my favorite non-canon routes do.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Would you say c;c is overall better or worse than SG 0

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007

Stefan Prodan posted:

Would you say c;c is overall better or worse than SG 0

I haven't played SG 0 yet, so I can't compare, but I'd say that I like c;c more than SG, although that might just be because I tend to enjoy darker/more horror-themed VNs. They're definitely very close in quality.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



3D GAY WORLD posted:

I haven't played SG 0 yet, so I can't compare, but I'd say that I like c;c more than SG, although that might just be because I tend to enjoy darker/more horror-themed VNs. They're definitely very close in quality.

Wow is that an endorsement if I ever heard one.

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

As someone who played both S;G games I’d say the quality is between the two games.

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007

MegaZeroX posted:

Wow is that an endorsement if I ever heard one.

I really don't want to go overboard on my praise and create false expectations, but I can say that if you enjoy murder mysteries, semi-scientific elements of the supernatural, horror and VNs like S;G or Zero Escape, you will really like (and probably love) C;C. Even if you're not a huge fan of all those things, it has some well-developed characters and great twists, and it's well-written enough that most people who like VNs will enjoy it.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Chaos;Head is in like the top 3 most monumentally disappointing VNs I've played. I'm glad Child is apparently better but that series has garnered absolutely zero good will from me after C;H and S;G 0.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Nate RFB posted:

Chaos;Head is in like the top 3 most monumentally disappointing VNs I've played. I'm glad Child is apparently better but that series has garnered absolutely zero good will from me after C;H and S;G 0.

No Robotics;Notes?

And zero good will from Chaos;Head (a.k.a., the very first one in the series)? Why would you even play Steins;Gate after that?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Well, the Robitics;Notes anime was pretty bad at least. Anyway, what I was more trying to get at now is that looking back on their overall catalog they just have had a lot more misses than hits (in fact, just one barring Child being also good) and I kind of feel like S;G 0 was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Have they patched up the absurd amount of typos and grammar errors in C;C yet? I know PQube released a patch a few weeks after release but that only fixed a handful of them.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
is there any voice acting in any of the games that reaches the peak of Okarin's actor yelling BANANA in stein's gate

that is my favorite piece of video game acting of all time lol

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I finished Muv-Luv Alternative. It was pretty good though if I have a major complaint it's that the game is just too long. I mentioned the many science conversations dragging on a bit, but also I feel like in the buildup to the reveal what happened to Sumika with the BETA had a lot of repetitive scenes of Takeru asking people the same questions and having the same revelations over and over again, and if I'm gonna be honest the game probably had one big BETA operation too many. Also the gang of what I can only assume were more Rumbling Hearts characters had a bit of a "Shrike Team from Victory Gundam" feel to them. There's just a lot of fat on here in a way that Extra and Unlimited just didn't have. I'm not sure how much I'd commit to this view myself, but I think you could make a legitimate argument that Alternative is the worst executed part of the trilogy, at least in the second half or so of the game.

That isn't to say its bad though, I found Alternative overall to be a very good and enjoyable experience. I think it probably needed a bit more polish though. Also it would be fun in Super Robot Wars.

Raxivace fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Dec 15, 2017

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Stefan Prodan posted:

is there any voice acting in any of the games that reaches the peak of Okarin's actor yelling BANANA in stein's gate

that is my favorite piece of video game acting of all time lol

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Have they patched up the absurd amount of typos and grammar errors in C;C yet? I know PQube released a patch a few weeks after release but that only fixed a handful of them.

I just played through it in the last 2-3 weeks, and while I did notice some typos/grammar errors, I would say it was fewer than 8-10 throughout as much of the game as I've played (about 3/4ths). That could just be the fact that I didn't notice them, since the mind tends to be able to fill in gaps if you're not paying close attention to smaller typos. I thought they mostly did a good job, very few of those errors were glaring, barring one exception (subtitles not being present for one line of spoken dialogue towards the end of the game).

Also, yeah, I looked into Chaos;Head a bit more (haven't played it) and it definitely seems like a hot mess compared to C;C. Again, some cool ideas with potential, but a lot of serious issues.

I mentioned that the protagonist from C;C (Takuru) was a lot better than the one from C;H, but I think I understated the difference; C;H's protagonist is an extremely creepy shut-in who somehow lives in a shipping container with his collection of waifu's (anime figurines), one of whom "talks" to him on a regular basis. Compared to him, Takuru is a mature, well-adjusted social butterfly with robust friendships and fulfilling hobbies. I mean, granted that that's not really saying much, but Takuru is an infinitely more sympathetic and interesting character whose flaws are rooted in a massive earthquake that traumatized basically everyone in Shibuya.

That being said, I actually really like the idea of "weak" protagonists, especially in stories like C;H, since it heightens the feeling of terror and helplessness. Throwing a an already unstable, unsympathetic protagonist with a tenuous grasp on reality into the events surrounding a series of brutal murders is a great premise, but there's such a thing as going too far.

I would really try to hold off on judging C;C based on C;H. I know that's obviously impossible if you've played and hated C;H, but C;C is legitimately an excellent game. Again, this is only a personal theory with no real evidence, but C;H was the first game in the whole series, and the developer probably regretted not being able to accomplish what they wanted to with C;H. I could easily see C;C as being an attempt to take an excellent premise from a flawed VN and give it the resources it deserved.

This is not to say that C;C is just C;H recycled into a prettier package with cosmetic changes, it definitely isn't.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I don't mind awful shitheads being protagonists, but all of my time with C;H was nothing but the protagonist being a weirdo and little else even after several hours of gametime and I just couldn't take it anymore.

FWIW you've definitely made me more interested in giving C;C a chance at some point whereas before I was content with just skipping it.

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007
Ahaha, holy gently caress do these side-routes go off the rails in the most exciting and bat-poo poo ways.


"So for Kazuki's route, we should definitely make sure the player gets a chance to know her better, but why can't we do that via (spoilers from side-route, almost entirely unrelated to main plot) a pandemic causing a supernatural portal device to materialize and then transport horrible things (including a gigantic, head-eating dragon from a fictional MMO) into the real world, where they proceed to do exactly what you would expect them to?"

And I've only just started the route. :psyduck:

3D GAY WORLD fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Dec 15, 2017

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

I bought and finished Danganronpa v3. Quite an ending. Which ended up being somewhat undercut by me repeatedly failing the final minigame. I can't offer a firm opinion about the ending because I start hearing beats and getting upset.

Oh wait...

There was an epilogue. Eh. Guess the audience got their happy ending after all.

Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Dec 15, 2017

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

Hypocrisy posted:

I bought and finished Danganronpa v3. Quite an ending. Which ended up being somewhat undercut by me repeatedly failing the final minigame. I can't offer a firm opinion about the ending because I start hearing beats and getting upset.

Oh wait...

There was an epilogue. Eh. Guess the audience got their happy ending after all.

Lol wait if there is I missed it can you elaborate in spoiler tag when it appears

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Stefan Prodan posted:

Lol wait if there is I missed it can you elaborate in spoiler tag when it appears

I'm talking about the scene that appears after you save your clear data and try and open the main menu.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Yeah I never saw that I had to look it up just now lol

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.
I'm reading F\SN's Unlimited Blade Works route right now and Holy gently caress, can they not help themselves with the Archer is Emiya pointers even super early in the route?

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Irritated Goat posted:

I'm reading F\SN's Unlimited Blade Works route right now and Holy gently caress, can they not help themselves with the Archer is Emiya pointers even super early in the route?

Um, is it bad that I only figured it out a little while before the reveal?

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
I watched the anime and didn't really figure it out until way late also, maybe the anime doesn't give as many hints or I'm just dumb (good evidence for this within the past page of this thread)

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




I'm almost done with 999 on PS4, next up is VLR/ZTD, and I have Dangan Ronpa 1-2 after that. Also got the Silver Case. what other VNs should I be playing? PS1-4 are the only consoles I've got, and I much much prefer physical discs to digital.

EDIT: holding off on steins;gate for the elite version in march, then gonna do 0. are there ways to play the other games in the series on ps1-4 with English text?

Fate Accomplice fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 17, 2017

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Stein's Gate

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


Stefan Prodan posted:

Stein's Gate

It kind of depends on if ketchup needs something gamey like the puzzle rooms in 999 or the trials in DR to break up the novel, though. Steins;Gate is amazing but some people get weird about pure VNs.

It's kind of a moot point though because VLR will take you a while and ZTD after that will just make you swear off VNs forever.

e: also the murder mysteries of DR 1 and 2 can be fun but the plot for both is pretty garbage. DR3 has a really great plot (in my opinion at least - it's kinda love it or hate it) and weak mysteries but the whole thing that it does probably falls flat if you haven't slogged through the first two games.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




food court bailiff posted:

It kind of depends on if ketchup needs something gamey like the puzzle rooms in 999 or the trials in DR to break up the novel, though. Steins;Gate is amazing but some people get weird about pure VNs.

It's kind of a moot point though because VLR will take you a while and ZTD after that will just make you swear off VNs forever.

e: also the murder mysteries of DR 1 and 2 can be fun but the plot for both is pretty garbage. DR3 has a really great plot (in my opinion at least - it's kinda love it or hate it) and weak mysteries but the whole thing that it does probably falls flat if you haven't slogged through the first two games.

I'm cool either way on the gameplay stuff, but I just want more text on the screen and faster advancement. 999 has this irritating thing where the novel mode only writes text on the top half of my TV, which means like 5-6 lines of text tops.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
I kinda wish ZTD had never come out and I could just imagine what the third game might be like instead tbh

It had some ok moments but was overall a step back from VLR

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


ketchup vs catsup posted:

I'm cool either way on the gameplay stuff, but I just want more text on the screen and faster advancement. 999 has this irritating thing where the novel mode only writes text on the top half of my TV, which means like 5-6 lines of text tops.

Uh....is this how they handle the Akane projecting thing? I know it's been brought up before but I don't really remember how it works without the original hardware. I'm thinking of getting the Nonary Game collection on Vita for my brother to check out but want to make sure the reveal still "works".


Stefan Prodan posted:

I kinda wish ZTD had never come out and I could just imagine what the third game might be like instead tbh

It had some ok moments but was overall a step back from VLR

It really should have ended with the Radical-6 ending and scrapped the whole Delta poo poo for something that actually...I don't know...worked, and wasn't awful in every way except a cheeky anagram in the game title.
The Luna/Phi stuff was interesting but there has never been a story where a long lost evil twin is a compelling plot point, and ZTD is no exception.
There's enough good scenes in it that I'm glad we got it, and tonally it's pretty solid, but yeesh that final ending was underwhelming.

The way everything fit together at the end left it really open for future games though - not just Delta leading everybody against the ultra psychic terrorists or whatever, but (this is kind of going out on a limb here based on ZTD and VLR in the context of each other) there's probably a team of people in the doomed future who are stuck on earth in the Mars sim complex. After all, doesn't that make more sense than having access to space travel in the post-apocalypse? Sigma knows about the teleporter from the events of ZTD, unless I'm mistaken and he never finds it in the apocalypse route. I know we're probably never going to get another one but I really just don't want the whole series to end on such a wet fart.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

food court bailiff posted:

Uh....is this how they handle the Akane projecting thing? I know it's been brought up before but I don't really remember how it works without the original hardware. I'm thinking of getting the Nonary Game collection on Vita for my brother to check out but want to make sure the reveal still "works".
Judging by reactions I've seen from people who've only played the new version, the reveal still works. There is kind of an issue with the game's presentation (999 spoilers?)in that you can switch between ADV and NVL mode at any time, and if you play the whole game in ADV mode you'll only get the narration text at certain forced points, but it's certainly not enough of an issue to stop someone playing the new version.

quote:

The way everything fit together at the end left it really open for future games though - not just Delta leading everybody against the ultra psychic terrorists or whatever, but (this is kind of going out on a limb here based on ZTD and VLR in the context of each other) there's probably a team of people in the doomed future who are stuck on earth in the Mars sim complex. After all, doesn't that make more sense than having access to space travel in the post-apocalypse? Sigma knows about the teleporter from the events of ZTD, unless I'm mistaken and he never finds it in the apocalypse route.
(ZTD spoilers)Sigma doesn't know about it in that ending but Carlos and Akane do. So it depends how good you think Crash Keys are at sharing information.

Also ZTD is fine. Sure it's the weakest of the trilogy now that they've fixed all the repeated content in 999, but the weakest entry in a great trilogy is still great.

3D GAY WORLD
May 15, 2007

ketchup vs catsup posted:

I'm almost done with 999 on PS4, next up is VLR/ZTD, and I have Dangan Ronpa 1-2 after that. Also got the Silver Case. what other VNs should I be playing? PS1-4 are the only consoles I've got, and I much much prefer physical discs to digital.

EDIT: holding off on steins;gate for the elite version in march, then gonna do 0. are there ways to play the other games in the series on ps1-4 with English text?

I highly recommend Chaos;Child (assuming you're down for a really long horror/murder mystery). I've posted a lot about it over the last two pages, so check my posts for a good summary of why you should try Chaos;Child.

It's on PS4 (and Vita). One drawback is that since it was just released in the west, it's not going on sale for a few months probably, and it goes for the price of a AAA game ($59.99). Granted, it has extremely high production values for a VN, and it's a good 70 hours (50+ hours at an absolute minimum) long.

To give you an idea of my taste in VNs, my favorites (in no real order) are:

999, VLR, ZTD

Danganronpa 1/2/3

Steins;Gate, Chaos;Child

3D GAY WORLD fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Dec 19, 2017

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

3D GAY WORLD posted:

To give you an idea of my taste in VNs, my favorites (in no real order) are:

999, VLR, ZTD

Danganronpa 1/2/3

Steins;Gate, Chaos;Child

Saya no Uta

dont play the last listed VN imho

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




3D GAY WORLD posted:

I highly recommend Chaos;Child (assuming you're down for a really long horror/murder mystery). I've posted a lot about it over the last two pages, so check my posts for a good summary of why you should try Chaos;Child. Also, it's on PS4 and PS Vita.

To give you an idea of my taste in VNs, my favorites (in no real order) are:

999, VLR, ZTD

Danganronpa 1/2/3

Steins;Gate, Chaos;Child

Saya no Uta

are the games in the steins gate series related? does playing order matter?

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply