|
Okay how minimal could the damage be, like say they settled out of court. With this firm on the payroll and everything what kind of money would that be?
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 16:44 |
|
|
TheAgent posted:holy gently caress at them not providing code fixes and improvements back to crytek as part of their agreement Yeah I know nothing about legal matters but seeing about 40 different clauses of the GLA being breached is a pretty clear indication to even a layman of the scope of this. "They contractually agreed here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here to provide things they did not provide and are unquestionably in breach of contract" I'm sure the legendary genius visionary Chris Roberts is going to reverse this 40 point takedown in court somehow. He is obviously doing everything completely flawlessly and the dream will be amazing.  Someone watch the grey market
VictorianQueerLit fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 13, 2017 |
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:06
|
|
|
i get to write about this for work i'm so happy. any interesting tidbits from the complaint i should highlight lmao
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:07
|
|
|
Christmas came early, and it came hard. Thanks Dr. Smart !
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:07
|
|
|
I'm betting roberts bet everything on having amazons support, engineers and tech for more than the 6 weeks they were out there before they noped off the fuckin project
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:07
|
|
|
D_Smart posted:As I posted on Twitter, it's Zenimax v Oculus bad. A firm like Skadden would never get involved in small potatoes. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941000218262241280 https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941003491497205761 ----------------
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
I'm glad you finally delivered something, Derek, and it looks pretty hilarious. Maybe in two weeks you'll actually get to finish, too.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
nnnotime posted:There is also a recent GBS thread on this topic already. I'm surprised nobody has updated it, yet, with the ELE news (slackers). Goddamit, I just did so.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
spacetoaster posted:Are you making a blog about it? The Oculus Rift is a virtual reality headset that was developed by Oculus VR. The company was founded by Palmer Luckey, who had a keen interest in head-mounted displays and had developed a prototype of the Oculus Rift by 2012. Concurrently, John Carmack, at the time of id Software, a subsidiary under ZeniMax Media, also was interested in head-mounted displays, saw Luckey's prototype for the Rift and modified it, showcasing the updated prototype at Electronic Entertainment Expo 2012 (E3) that June using a modified version of id's Doom 3. Following E3 2012, Oculus VR launched a Kickstarter to fund further development of the Rift, ultimately raising more than $2.4 million through it, one of the largest crowdfunding ventures at that time. The attention lead to additional venture funding, with more than $91 million invested by 2013. During this, Carmack left id Software to become the Chief Technology Officer for Oculus VR. In March 2014, Mark Zuckerberg announced that Facebook had acquired Oculus VR for $2 billion. The jury trial completed on February 2, 2017, with the jury finding that Luckey had violated the NDA he had with ZeniMax, and awarding $500 million to ZeniMax. However, the jury found that that Oculus, Facebook, Luckey, Iribe, and Carmack did not misappropriate or steal trade secrets, though ZeniMax continued to publicly assert otherwise. Oculus will have to pay $200 million for breaking the non-disclosure agreement, and additional $50 million for copyright infringement; for false designation of origin charges, Oculus and Luckey will have to pay $50 million each, while Iribe will be responsible for $150 million. ^^ nicked from wikipedia
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
Crazypoops posted:Okay how minimal could the damage be, like say they settled out of court. With this firm on the payroll and everything what kind of money would that be?
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
VictorianQueerLit posted:
Literally trying the "wrong company" argument. Wow!
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
CrazyLoon posted:Goddamit, I just did so.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:10
|
|
|
Has anyone said... Get a Refund yet?
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:10
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:minimum settlement on this would probably be something like $30m, with absolute and total control of any and all original cryengine assets and code turned over and a complete production halt on star citizen / squadron 42 This is basically just Silicon Knights again, right? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...en-destiny-more That went so well for them. CIG's in for a great couple of weeks.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
D_Smart posted:You have your wish. It's here. It's big. And it's 1 of 3 that I am aware of.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:
I found the problem.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
I just woke up And made coffee Lemme check SC thread I'll just skip to last page Holy poo poo tits. Now I'm not by any means an expert on legal matters in the software world, and please, any paralegals or lawyers step in and correct me here if I'm wrong, but upon skimming this and pondering over it for a bit, I'm beginning to think - yeah I'm just gonna come right out and say it, I think this means pole vaulting is confirmed for 2.2.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:holy gently caress at them not providing code fixes and improvements back to crytek as part of their agreement Basically, they were obligated to provide "StarEngine" back to CryTek. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:minimum settlement on this would probably be something like $30m, with absolute and total control of any and all original cryengine assets and code turned over and a complete production halt on star citizen / squadron 42 Depends on when the breaches occurred and the damages point they're looking for. Luckily there's a spreadsheet showing the amounts generated after the breaches. Particularly around sales. High fidelity damages development. $135,290,098 - 26th November 2016 $173,474,091 - Today Hav fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 13, 2017 |
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:11
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:minimum settlement on this would probably be something like $30m, with absolute and total control of any and all original cryengine assets and code turned over and a complete production halt on star citizen / squadron 42 So checkmate basically, they're hosed.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:12
|
|
|
so CIG tried to buy out as many Crytek employees as possible so that the company wouldnt work and go under but failed. Seems like a legit strategy.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:12
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:minimum settlement on this would probably be something like $30m, with absolute and total control of any and all original cryengine assets and code turned over and a complete production halt on star citizen / squadron 42 This kills the dream
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:12
|
|
|
Crazypoops posted:So checkmate basically, they're hosed. They dicked around with the T&Cs for their core tech, so yeah, sounds like it. I picked a great time to start following SC drama. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:12
|
|
|
how is this not on every fuckin gaming site right now again, please come to the dead comedy forum for real news and updates about star citizen lol
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:13
|
|
|
That DICK! posted:i get to write about this for work i'm so happy. any interesting tidbits from the complaint i should highlight lmao I want to see articles really focusing on how CIG's marketing blitz breached contract by directly exposed confidential information in their videos. I would love it if those became a giant millstone around their neck because they've been one of the biggest points in the "Everything is working great, see how much they're accomplishing" argument.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:13
|
|
|
i need a cigarette
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:13
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:this is bad. like really bad https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941008123216744449 ----------------
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:13
|
|
|
SCENE: Interior bedroom - daytime - drawers askew - CHRIS and SANDI SANDI: WHERE'S THE FUCKIN BUG OUT BAG CHRIS?!
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:13
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:14
|
|
|
nnnotime posted:Yeah, I see spacetoaster just gave the ELE update. Very well, carry on... We're going to need to update the OP for the Drama Thread too. But I'll let this simmer for a week, or so, before I add that entry.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:14
|
|
|
Mne nravitsya posted:Bravo Derek! You deserve a “called it” Scooby Snack. It's been in the works for almost a year, but I couldn't talk about it, only kept hinting at it. And recently, I kept saying the big one was coming. This is it. Then I was notified about the filing. So I posted this yesterday as a prelude. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3800238&pagenumber=3046&perpage=40#post479285341 Then, yesterday I come to find out that this wasn't even the big one. There's more. It's worse. They're hosed. Completely. ----------------
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:15
|
|
|
 lol if this ben parry jpg ends up as evidence in space court.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
In slightly lower-grade ELE news, the star citizen subreddit is now being monitored for vote manipulation from CIG employees
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
Oh poo poo, there's two more of these? Stick a fuckin' fork in 'em, they're done.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
Seeking an injunction against using the engine.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:holy gently caress at them not providing code fixes and improvements back to crytek as part of their agreement Chris Roberts is doing something that nobody has done before.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
Crazypoops posted:So checkmate basically, they're hosed.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:17
|
|
|
Any claim that they're using Lumberyard instead of CryEngine isn't worth poo poo. Amazon isn't going to help them here.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:18
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:Yeah, and if the whole Turbulent thing is still going (there was rumblings about Turbulent not getting a fair shake in 2016, with a renegotiation of their deal to have a "release" version of SC in 2017/2018 re: their owed royalties) that's another thing CIG is going to have to deal with. If there are other suits seeking money damages, it's gonna be a race to the courthouse now.
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 16:44 |
|
|
This could be the moment for Roberts to show the world the programing bits what he did
|
|
#
?
Dec 13, 2017 19:19
|
|
