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Overwined posted:I think Republicans now know that if they lose this vote on the tax bill that their party is in hibernation until the Democrats piss of the country in 10ish years and we get to start this stupid loving cycle all over again. Boom and Bust politics in the US is one of the most destructive forces to the people of the nation and it's really kinda sad. There seems to be no way off this rollercoaster. The way off is for Democrats to lock in advantages. Admit PR as a state, reenact the VRA, enact antigerrymandering laws, etc.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The way off is for Democrats to lock in advantages. Admit PR as a state, reenact the VRA, enact antigerrymandering laws, etc. Could they also make election day a national holiday? I think that would be a good idea. Require states to start mandatory vote by mail?
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Deified Data posted:There, they said it. Can we put a stop to futile rural white outreach now. Seriously, just stop wasting money on old white people, the ones that aren't utter poo poo are going to vote for dems and the ones that are going to vote for republicans, nobody will ever be convinced. Focusing on turning out minority and young votes is the way forward and it's stunning that it's taken so long for the DNC to get that
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The way off is for Democrats to lock in advantages. Admit PR as a state, reenact the VRA, enact antigerrymandering laws, etc. Going to be awkward when PR gets blown away entirely by a hurricane right after becoming a state. Turns into the proverbial desert island with one palm tree and 3 people, 2 of which are senators and the other a house rep.
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Oh, right, the spineless narrative, gotta keep that afloat. Well done, turds 
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theflyingorc posted:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo Oh- I thought I saw him at 36.2 once.
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theflyingorc posted:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo 538 adjusts polls to supposedly even out biases so that Rasmussen poll goes from 41% approve to 36%
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Delthalaz posted:Oh- I thought I saw him at 36.2 once. Maybe he was one day before another pollster came in? It's the lowest average I can find on the chart, at least. He's doing real bad
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Ganson posted:Going to be awkward when PR gets blown away entirely by a hurricane right after becoming a state. Turns into the proverbial desert island with one palm tree and 3 people, 2 of which are senators and the other a house rep. As long as it doesn't get destroyed until after the 2020 census they'll have vacancies for several more reps, PR has the population of like the 5-6 least populous states combined. Statehood isn't just about stacking the Senate, there's legitimately a lot of disenfranchised people there.
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scuz posted:Oh, right, the spineless narrative, gotta keep that afloat. Well done, turds Coming up next: "Gerrymandering having 'very troublesome' effects, but no action is needed, says party official." I'd be happier for last night if I didn't fear that it didn't embolden a ton of "See, we just need to find a vile enough monster to run against!" types.
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BonoMan posted:If a president shouldn't be allowed to seat a Supreme Court Judge in the last year of his presidency then why do the Republicans get to pass a bill in the last month before a new Senator is seated? Before you ask whether it's a big deal that Republicans are hypocrites or being unfair... Republicans are okay being: Rapists Child Molestors Thieves Nazis Traitors Slavers
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Hollismason posted:It doesn't work like that , they can tell how many times it's been reprinted as well because each printer leaves identifiable marks. The amount of fingerprinting varies a lot from printer to printer. Most B/W printers have little to no fingerprinting.
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Straight White Shark posted:As long as it doesn't get destroyed until after the 2020 census they'll have vacancies for several more reps, PR has the population of like the 5-6 least populous states combined. Statehood isn't just about stacking the Senate, there's legitimately a lot of disenfranchised people there. Also NOAA's expected "number of hurricanes per year" increase is like 12% by 2100, last year was an outlier and while the risk to Puerto Rico is definitely increased, there's no reason to expect them to get hammered by hurricanes every year, even with climate change.
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theflyingorc posted:Maybe he was one day before another pollster came in? And with no signs of improvement on the horizon. Even if they can manage to pass the tax bill and go in the media crowing about a "win", the thing is so wildly unpopular it's only going to drive him further down.
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TGLT posted:He can actually, they're just not going to do it. Oh, whoops. Demon Of The Fall posted:Could they also make election day a national holiday? I think that would be a good idea. Require states to start mandatory vote by mail? Mandatory vote by mail is lame but I'd like to see more early voting and election day being a national holiday. Voting is cool and good, everyone should be able to enjoy participating in democracy. 
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Here's some more on the Omarosa thing https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/941010292846288897 Sounds like they were poo poo talking black folk in front of her face for some time and she finally got fed up. Took her long enough?
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empty whippet box posted:Seriously, just stop wasting money on old white people, the ones that aren't utter poo poo are going to vote for dems and the ones that are going to vote for republicans, nobody will ever be convinced. Focusing on turning out minority and young votes is the way forward and it's stunning that it's taken so long for the DNC to get that I think it took Trump and Moore to really drive this point home, though. I mean, someone could have reasonably been on the fence between say, McCain and Obama without being a literally irredeemable person. I can see how you'd convince yourself they can be reached. But looking at the numbers and seeing that a giant majority of white men voted for an insane, racist pedophile, or a narcissistic, pathologically dishonest sexual abuser means there can be no mistake: these people are poo poo, they can't be reached by sanity or reason, and they can't be helped. The only thing left is to take whatever action is necessary to minimize their influence on the electoral process, and the only legal and ethical way to do that is by driving up numbers of minority voters, women voters, and then maybe white progressives*. * White progressive voters who weren't already voting democrat are probably a lost cause too, because if they didn't vote D to keep Trump out of the White House, no one will ever be pure enough for them, especially if they don't adopt an economics-first message instead of a racial/social justice message.
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scuz posted:Oh, right, the spineless narrative, gotta keep that afloat. Well done, turds It is a bit of a clickbait headline: quote:Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi haven’t stopped fighting to deliver something on immigration by the end of the month. But they’ve subtly shifted their rhetoric in recent days and aren’t insisting that deportation relief be paired with a government funding bill this year.
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ReidRansom posted:Here's some more on the Omarosa thing Got a feeling that "source" is her. Omarosa is cynical as gently caress and I don't believe for a second that she wasn't fired. If Trump being racially tone-deaf actually bothered her she wouldn't have shown up for the campaign.
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ReidRansom posted:Here's some more on the Omarosa thing While I don't doubt the Trump White House is a cesspool that entire article is a single anonymous source giving insight with how much Omarosa struggled with the responsibility of being black in the White house. I don't believe a word of that.
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ReidRansom posted:Here's some more on the Omarosa thing I absolutely do not believe this, something tells me that's just the story she's shopping around now that she's out
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ReidRansom posted:Here's some more on the Omarosa thing Cool, so Donnie said something SUPER racist last night about Alabama voters in front of her and she finally snapped and screamed at him, so Kelly fired her. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Trabisnikof posted:It is a bit of a clickbait headline: Bingo, it's a misleading article not based on any actual statements of intent, it's just reading tea leaves from the fact that Schumer and Pelosi have been more quiet on the subject lately. As one possible reason for this move, it also notes that simultaneously there's a bill with bipartisan support that could provide relief for the dreamers without needing to force a shutdown over it (which could leave the shutdown fight for something else, like CHIP, in which case you'd want to avoid pivoting seamlessly from one demand to the next in the course of a day). Honestly, I heard Pelosi at a presser say they'd come to no agreement on funding without a DACA fix as recently as Friday, too, so I'm not sure what they're going on here. Clickbait sucks.
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RiggenBlaque posted:I absolutely do not believe this, something tells me that's just the story she's shopping around now that she's out Lmao she is transparently trying to get back into the black community's good graces.
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Chilichimp posted:Cool, so Donnie said something SUPER racist last night about Alabama voters in front of her and she finally snapped and screamed at him, so Kelly fired her. Bingo
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Koalas March posted:Lmao she is transparently trying to get back into the black community's good graces. Was she ever there in the first place?
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Isn't a year the minimum to get some sort of tax break from selling your stuff so you can be in government? I remember that coming up when some other official left after a year, and people indicated it seemed more or less expected
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oh, NOW Trump is too racist, not when he was putting out loving newspaper ads calling for the death of 5 innocent men.
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Brony Car posted:Was she ever there in the first place? When she was first on the Apprentice, yeah
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Grapplejack posted:Mandatory vote by mail is lame but I'd like to see more early voting and election day being a national holiday. Voting is cool and good, everyone should be able to enjoy participating in democracy. I think voting by mail is a wonderful thing and the only realistic method of allowing everyone to vote. No offense, but a voting holiday is an absolute no-go in our hosed-up Puritan society and is nothing more than a pipe dream. Hell, we’re struggling now to recognize Thanksgiving, our one true national holiday, as a day when everyone deserves the day off. I give it 5-10 years before companies start asking employees to take it as a “personal holiday”. That said, I do agree that voting by mail could have a few major problems, and the one I fear the most is the very likely situation where mail collection boxes in Black, Hispanic, or otherwise left-leaning neighborhoods are constantly vandalized or had their contents stolen and destroyed regularly during the voting periods. The Republicans try their damnedest to suppress voting, it wouldn’t surprise me if some PACs pay off criminals to throw hot coals down mail collection boxes.
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"How was I supposed to know Trump was a racist before I took a job in the White House?!?!"
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Koalas March posted:When she was first on the Apprentice, yeah IMO her bullshit cost Kwame a win he should have walked away with. Trump being all "why didn't you fire her?" in the finale when there was no previous indication whatsoever that he had firing power was also some bullshit. This piece on her from Daily Beast was an odd read, for anyone who missed it: https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-one-knows-what-omarosa-is-doing-in-the-white-houseeven-omarosa
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loving Ohio https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/941016660412190721 quote:A female Democratic House member shocked fellow lawmakers Wednesday when she said that the revealing clothing that some members and staffers wear is an “invitation” to sexual harassment.
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Chilichimp posted:Cool, so Donnie said something SUPER racist last night about Alabama voters in front of her and she finally snapped and screamed at him, so Kelly fired her. BOOK BOOK BOOK BOOK BOOK
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Alter Ego posted:loving christ. I hope she gets piled on for this by everyone--her colleagues, everyone. gently caress this mindset. How could a woman think this? Would it surprise you that literally millions of American women think this?
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Ripoff posted:I think voting by mail is a wonderful thing and the only realistic method of allowing everyone to vote. No offense, but a voting holiday is an absolute no-go in our hosed-up Puritan society and is nothing more than a pipe dream. Hell, we’re struggling now to recognize Thanksgiving, our one true national holiday, as a day when everyone deserves the day off. I give it 5-10 years before companies start asking employees to take it as a “personal holiday”. I think we need a combination of vote-by-mail, national holiday, mandatory time off, etc. There's no one size fits all solution and we need a set of layered options to make sure voting is as accessible as possible.
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