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kimbo305 posted:The 996 exhaust sounds super tame, tbh. One of the more disappointing aspects of the car. God drat, I didn't know that you could get a 4S with <100k miles for that much. e: it showing me the 4S that's still up was a lie! fknlo fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Dec 10, 2017 |
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Jymmybob posted:Just spend a hundo and have a muffler shop do the gundo hack. The PO of my 996 did something similar and it sounds really good considering the cost but I also haven't heard a stock one either. Neat; now I just have to procrastinate on calling around and finding the cheapest shop for it.
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the spyder posted:I wish I had garage space right now. Do it!!! Flat 6 is a healthy addition to the rotary lifestyle, also aren't you left coast? TOP DOWN 120k is actually a good thing considering the 05 ims
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Could someone please convince me I'm a dummy for wanting a 2001 911 Carerra 4 (~78K miles)? The asking price is $19,995. Usually my wife talks sense into me, but this time she said I should at least test drive it.
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ibntumart posted:Could someone please convince me I'm a dummy for wanting a 2001 911 Carerra 4 (~78K miles)? The asking price is $19,995. Usually my wife talks sense into me, but this time she said I should at least test drive it. If that's just some random car, the price could be a bit high. BringATrailer's recently sold a few nice 996s with IMS bearings replaced for under 20k: https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/996/ Look at that square cluster at the end.
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ibntumart posted:Could someone please convince me I'm a dummy for wanting a 2001 911 Carerra 4 (~78K miles)? The asking price is $19,995. Usually my wife talks sense into me, but this time she said I should at least test drive it. Thats right about the asking price I've seen a few here in Canada , so you should def. Be looking for a lower price if that's in usd Unless it's a private sale in which case they will always try to get you to pay top dollar when every other car around it is selling for 5k less
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Emailed the seller about this salvage/rebuild 2000, 911 Carrera with 43k miles listed for $16k. "We purchased this Porsche from the insurance company 10 years ago. The damage was on the left side ( Hood, Bumper, Headlight, fender, Strut and Radiator ) This has been our personal car for 10 years." From the sounds of it, it looks like the shops fun car that didn't actually see that much usage. They probably did some burnouts or whatever early on but let it sit around for the last few years. If it looks like a good deal, are there any questions I should send them? The only one I could think of was if the 43k miles were original or post rebuild.
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I don't think I'd do it for 16k. Not even 14k.
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Even if it looks decent (even seems to be the original frunk hood which is good for a wreck), the rebuild status will always be a huge, HUGE red flag for anyone. There are enough nice 996s out there that you can avoid this unless they're almost giving it to you.
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Don't do it. I can't imagine that 10 years ago it could be totaled out for such minor damage. If you want a rebuilt super cheap 996 then you can take mine for much less than that.  edit: not actually kidding, someone buy it Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Jymmybob posted:Don't do it. I can't imagine that 10 years ago it could be totaled out for such minor damage. If you want a rebuilt super cheap 996 then you can take mine for much less than that. If I didn't have mine already, I'd yours. I have a feeling yours is tighter all around.
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For you 996 prospective buyers, two more on BaT. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-porsche-911-17/ Aftermarket turboed, so a lot of people aren't touching it. Understandable. I dunno if I'd seen this one locally a while in the past. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-porsche-911-targa-4/ Will probably go over 20, but not too much more. I've never driven an AWD 996, so have no idea how different it feels.
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Thinking about £20k on a 2010 Boxster S 987.2 Any advice?
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willie_dee posted:Thinking about £20k on a 2010 Boxster S 987.2 What's that in freedom dollars?
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kimbo305 posted:https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-porsche-911-targa-4/ Ha, was actually going to come back here and ask people’s thoughts on this. I might put a bid on this one, but am a bit leery buying a car I don’t get to inspect or test drive first.
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willie_dee posted:Thinking about £20k on a 2010 Boxster S 987.2 Blue On Blue posted:What's that in freedom dollars? $27,360 Which would be kind of a great deal, any other info? How many miles? EDIT: Oh wow, I guess that's about average these days. Well not a great deal but depending on the miles could be great value thechalkoutline fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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kimbo305 posted:For you 996 prospective buyers, two more on BaT. Just noticed the AWD comment. Bit confused: the Carfax for that listing says RWD, and honestly, I thought the standard Targa came in RWD.
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ibntumart posted:Just noticed the AWD comment. Bit confused: the Carfax for that listing says RWD, and honestly, I thought the standard Targa came in RWD. Big whoops on my part -- I pasted the url and saw that it said targa-4 at the end. That just means it's the 4th listing that matched those words, but in my mind I turned it into a 4 for AWD.
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Holy poo poo that TT 996 C2 was an amazing buy. RIP seller Apparently it was a new 3.6 crate motor that was installed and turboed at 42k miles so it's probably a monster.
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Yes but iTs NoT aN oRiGiNaL PoRschE aNyMorE god I hate BaT people but I guess it's good for deals that the collector/speculator types don't want
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I think it's fair to be cautious about any car that's been aftermarket turboed, especially one that didn't have extensive community support for the mods. On this car, the mods truly added 0 value.
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What was the Porsche model from the 80's (?) that was legendary for unreliability?
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thechalkoutline posted:$27,360 Didn't go for it, dealer poo poo all over my car (fair enough negotiating wise) and it was too much to change for not enough of a change.
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Groda posted:What was the Porsche model from the 80's (?) that was legendary for unreliability? The 928? It is easily fixed with a LS swap. I am still kicking myself for not buying an $6,000 that was already swapped. The speedo didn't work or the tach so I had doubts about the quality. I just wanted to troll the porsche club and track days.
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kimbo305 posted:I think it's fair to be cautious about any car that's been aftermarket turboed, especially one that didn't have extensive community support for the mods. On this car, the mods truly added 0 value. I think if the seller wasn't a dealer that didn't figure out what they had then it would have gone for more. Looks like people found out it was a TTP turbo kit strapped to a new 3.6 engine then dropped in so it should be about as bulletproof as you'll get from an M96. Goddamn that had to be expensive. Long shot that it's a TTP Stage 4 crate engine but that'd be incredibly cool for the buyer.
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Jymmybob posted:I think if the seller wasn't a dealer that didn't figure out what they had then it would have gone for more. Looks like people found out it was a TTP turbo kit strapped to a new 3.6 engine then dropped in so it should be about as bulletproof as you'll get from an M96. Goddamn that had to be expensive. Long shot that it's a TTP Stage 4 crate engine but that'd be incredibly cool for the buyer. I saw an aftermarket turboed silver 996 on Boston Craiglist a ways back; I can't remember far, but it definitely hung around without a sale at the 25k mark. Given that that had a MA title, I would bet it's the same car. Not saying anything was wrong with the car, but I'm sure a lot of people had the same apprehension about that extensive of a mod. The seller never answered my question about that.
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kimbo305 posted:I saw an aftermarket turboed silver 996 on Boston Craiglist a ways back; I can't remember far, but it definitely hung around without a sale at the 25k mark. It's the same one. I'm not too risk averse on top of not being a Porsche traditionalist so I'm always surprised how much Porsche values are depressed by mods and lack of service history. That thing is like the C2 equivalent of my 996TT by having really expensive mods offered without the extended service histories sold by a non-enthusiast so it hits close to home. If it was closer to me and I didn't have my C2 I would have bid it over 20k easily.
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Replaced frunk (no vin/option sticker anymore) but no accident claims on the carfax? 
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Um, dumb question time, guys. Most modern Porsches (as of built this century) will be 50 state certified for emissions compliance, right? I feel like I'm being annoying every time I email/PM a seller to ask to check for the emissions sticker. Also, am I missing something about this listing? Not a fan of the rear wing spoiler, and I know people tend to prefer manual over automatic Porsches, but I'm still surprised the bids are so low: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-porsche-911-carrera-6/
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slidebite posted:Replaced frunk (no vin/option sticker anymore) but no accident claims on the carfax? Things only show up on Carfax if they are reported
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ibntumart posted:Also, am I missing something about this listing? Not a fan of the rear wing spoiler, and I know people tend to prefer manual over automatic Porsches, but I'm still surprised the bids are so low: In other news, I'm considering dropping the motor and doing the timing chains/paddles purely as preventative maintenance on my 99. Then I started thinking, if I do that, how far should I go? And THEN I started thinking... I wonder how much a Raby Flat 6 Innovations refresh would go for.... and if I sold the car in a few years how much of that I might get back... 
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ibntumart posted:Um, dumb question time, guys. Most modern Porsches (as of built this century) will be 50 state certified for emissions compliance, right? I feel like I'm being annoying every time I email/PM a seller to ask to check for the emissions sticker. I think the automatic really torpedoes the price. Much more so in the air cooled generations, but certainly still real here. This one is in the same boat: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-porsche-911-turbo-14/ I wonder if it'll break 30k. slidebite posted:In other news, I'm considering dropping the motor and doing the timing chains/paddles purely as preventative maintenance on my 99.  Is it easy "while you're in there" work with an IMS fix? I'm debating do the oil squirter solution in the spring.
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The camshafts have to be pulled to do the guides.
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slidebite posted:Meh, it'll probably still climb a bit but it's got a lot of little negatives about it. When I was in the market it seems a Raby engine adds about 10k to the sales price so you get some of the cost back. It might just be that I am assuming a lower non Raby price then is reasonable though. I bought a mustang because a replacement ecoboost 4 banger is $800 on ebay in running condition with all accessories. It seems mustangs have a 20% crash rate per year or something.
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kimbo305 posted:How many miles are on it? Looks like chains are on both ends? I don't think that's the engine. All the timing chains on the M96 series should be in front.... at least all the tensioners are! Dave Inc. posted:The camshafts have to be pulled to do the guides. If I go a Raby rebuild, it'll be done to a 3.6 and a full tilt rebuild. It ain't cheap though, so I've got to do some serious thinking if that's a hole I really want to go down.
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slidebite posted:71K Miles/115K Kms. No the chain guides, I don't think you can get to them with the chains in place as the chain galleys are integral to the head, not under a cover. And the M96/7 engines have timing chains front and rear, it's the Mezger based engines (turbo/GT) that have all the chains up front.
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Phone posting, but these are the timing chains on the vanilla M96. They are in the front. I *think* the only chain in the rear is for the IMS. I’m not sure what’s required for disassembly to get at all of them, but the usual culprits are the ones that flex with the tensioners.
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The IMS has gears on the front and back, the back gear is for cam timing to cylinders 1-3, the front gear is for cam timing to cylinders 4-6. On the M96/7 they used the same head for both sides so the gears were flipped back to front. Here's an M97 rebuild. They don't show the left head teardown but you can see that he's doing all the gear/chain work on the rear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_IeP_iShxA
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