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Steve2911 posted:What? Why? Because now we're going into the 3rd sequel movie and Han's dead, Carrie's dead so Leia will be written out, and now Luke's dead, after being barely a cameo in the first movie and Obi Wan in the second. Essentially a Chrono Chross Level of making GBS threads all over the established characters. Oh, all the stuff you did in the OT? Pointless as the empire is back and your kid/nephew is a mass murdering sociopath. It's bleak as hell and not what I'm looking for out of Star Wars in 2017.
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Luke can always be a force ghost. Besides the central theme of this movie was out with the old. Well, really the only theme of the movie. Other than empire = bad because animal abuse.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:50
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DrNutt posted:gently caress them for not rewriting it so Luke could live after Carrie died. What utter horseshit. Luke is like the fifth best character in the OT and Hamill is not a very good actor. It's time to move on.
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DrNutt posted:Because now we're going into the 3rd sequel movie and Han's dead, Carrie's dead so Leia will be written out, and now Luke's dead, after being barely a cameo in the first movie and Obi Wan in the second. Chrono Cross is good, sorry.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:55
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clown shoes posted:Luke is like the fifth best character in the OT and Hamill is not a very good actor. It's time to move on. Dumb opinions ITT
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Dec 13, 2017 18:57
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drunkill posted:I'm willing to put Episode 1 above this... almost. Well, that's a good sign, considering Ep I is third on my list 
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Dec 13, 2017 19:07
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drunkill posted:Luke can always be a force ghost. In all likelihood, with Carrie gone, this is what they're going to go to in lieu of her having her big moment in IX. Although Billy Dee Williams owns a phone, Disney. Feel free to dial his number anytime.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:16
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esperterra posted:Chrono Cross is good, sorry. In a vacuum it's a good game with outstanding music and an incredibly painfully slow bordering on unplayable battle system in 2017. As a sequel to Chrono Trigger, it's trash. clown shoes posted:Luke is like the fifth best character in the OT and Hamill is not a very good actor. It's time to move on. Hamill has come a long way since the OT and Luke had the potential of being a fantastic character, which was pissed away. I guess we'll see how much force ghostin' he does in ep 9 but if you're going to wipe out your old cast and replace them with new people, you should probably give us new characters that aren't simply boring retreads of their OT counterparts (except Finn and BB8, they're great).
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Dec 13, 2017 19:21
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OctoberCountry posted:I think a lot of the Lucasfilm "story group" were probably in on the joke too Literally every theory was better than the reality. Shove that smug bullshit.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:27
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Doesn’t Luke say something like “See ya around, kid” after taunting Kylo before he ascends to the Force? What if he’s not dead? What if he just leveled up to some previously unknown plane of existence that goes beyond force ghosts? He’ll definitely be back for IX.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:40
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DrNutt posted:In a vacuum it's a good game with outstanding music and an incredibly painfully slow bordering on unplayable battle system in 2017. As a sequel to Chrono Trigger, it's trash. Actually, it's a great sequel just awkwardly told, sorry.
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Gonz posted:Doesn’t Luke say something like “See ya around, kid” after taunting Kylo before he ascends to the Force? Now you're thinking like JJ Abrams! 
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The Cameo posted:In all likelihood, with Carrie gone, this is what they're going to go to in lieu of her having her big moment in IX. You know Star Wars law, only one black person can exist in the galaxy at one time in the main cast.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:50
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Has anyone seen it in 3D yet? I have only seen one movie in 3D ever, Avatar, as I usually don't see the point, but I'm going to be seeing it a second time next week (when my brother will be able to see it), and the only showing that worked for our schedules is a 3D showing. As those things go, is it a good 3D movie or bad? Assuming I already think 3D is dumb, I mean.
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Jiro posted:Now you're thinking like JJ Abrams! Hire me, Pablo Hidalgo!
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esperterra posted:Actually, it's a great sequel just awkwardly told, sorry. Yeah, the best sequels poo poo all over the previous entries characters just to prove a point about entropy or nihilism or whatever oh wai-
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Being butthurt that a. you don't play as the old cast or b. most of them die in the interim does not a bad sequel make. e: which is fitting here tbh! og trilogy people dying doesn't make this a bad sequel inherently esperterra fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Dec 13, 2017 20:01
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Jose Oquendo posted:You put Rogue One at the #3 so I have no idea if your review/opinions have any any merit. I'd say his ranking is spot on. ROTJ has a great first act and final saber duel, but is mostly garbage. The prequels are universally poo poo. TFA is a-okay, but nothing special. Yeah, I'd say The Guns of Navarone in Space deserves its number 3 spot.
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esperterra posted:Being butthurt that a. you don't play as the old cast or b. most of them die in the interim does not a bad sequel make. It's not about being butthurt, it's a lousy sequel because it takes a game that's generally bright, and full of hope for the future, and then says 'nah, actually, they died and everything they fought for just made things worse, losers." Which may or may not directly related to Star Wars, I guess we'll see what happens when ep 9 comes out.
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DrNutt posted:It's not about being butthurt, it's a lousy sequel because it takes a game that's generally bright, and full of hope for the future, and then says 'nah, actually, they died and everything they fought for just made things worse, losers." The future refused to change hth e; i'm high and bad
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esperterra posted:Being butthurt that a. you don't play as the old cast or b. most of them die in the interim does not a bad sequel make. If anything that probably bugs me the most is Luke never leaving the island, and force projecting or whatever. He dies sure whatever, but man have the guy actually BE THERE give him a lil bit of redemption. Have him fly in in his X-Wing blowing poo poo out of the sky, ejecting himself out of it as it flies into a ship, then him fighting on the ground, actually against Kylo, then give him that moment of relief before dying he senses everyone got away and poof disappears. Off to be naked while dead or something. Having him be a hard light hologram implies he wants it both ways of being unable to let go of his guilt and shame but he still wants to help. Guy should have died on Crait.
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We took my girlfriend's dad to see TFA when it came out, and he was really disappointed that Luke wasn't in it because he said he he had been waiting 30 years to see him again. He wants us to go see this with him, too, and I almost don't have the heart to let that poor old man be sad again when Luke dies.
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Gonz posted:What if he’s not dead? What if he just leveled up to some previously unknown plane of existence that goes beyond force ghosts? He’ll definitely be back for IX. In the scene in question...for the first half of that scene, that was a 3rd party Yoda CGI, right? It looks distinctly off from the CGI Yoda from the prequels and the ESB/ROTJ puppet. Like the weakest of both.
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drunkill posted:Luke can always be a force ghost. Kurzon fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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From another scene, the end battle. Bad idea Snoke, making Kylo take that mask off earlier in the flick. Driver is supposed to be in a rage but all I can hear is MATT. Watching that skit a few times, I was convinced it Driver deliberately parodying his own acting. Spoiler: He wasn't parodying.
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Luke Skywalker posted:Now that they're extinct, the Jedi are romanticized...deified. This movie is going to loving own
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aBagorn posted:This movie is going to loving own sorry i heard it was bad because it was funny?
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Seriously, these spoilers are making me even more hyped for this movie. I can't loving wait.
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Some fun haters ITT. The movie is good
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My one point of contention for all the people pissed about snoke getting killed like a chump on the grounds that the books are hyping him up, as far as I am aware none of those things explicitly make that presence in the unknown regions out to be snoke. Sure, you can say it’s implied but even that is still technically filling in the gaps. Could still become a factor as whiny kylo looks for more power.
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The Knights of Ren not being in this probably just means Kylo’s gonna get the band back together in the next one now that he promoted himself after an opening in manangement was made available. Like Vinny Chase’s pals on Entourage. Which one’s gonna be Turtle? Stay tuned!
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My mom asked me if "the black guy" is in the new Star War and I thought she meant Billy Dee but she was actually talking about Darth Vader.
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clown shoes posted:My mom asked me if "the black guy" is in the new Star War and I thought she meant Billy Dee but she was actually talking about Darth Vader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VZj-85E5o
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DrNutt posted:Oh, all the stuff you did in the OT? Pointless this is a really weird way to interpret poo poo that I see all the time and always confuses me did you expect all that stuff they did in the OT to make every sentient species in the galaxy better forever, or abolish space fascism as a concept for good? did you think all the main characters would or deserved to die happily in bed at the age of 120 surrounded by friends and lovers in perfect tranquility? why? one of the most important perspectives a piece of anti-authoritarian pop culture can offer in 2017 (since you said "what I expect from star wars in 2017") is that the real war, the final one, isn't over just because you won this or that battle, that you can't eradicate evil, greed, and tyranny forever by blowing up one moon base or throwing one guy down an elevator shaft, that you have to keep fighting forever and winning as much as you can over and over and keep the faith that someone will carry on after you're gone; it makes the heroism and sacrifice involved more meaningful
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Kylo Ren is yet another beautiful black visage revealed to be a pasty white man.
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It's not that everything should be good forever(although Star Wars was totally fine as a finite story and it's not like sequels were needed), it's that the characters should have some meaningful place in the overall narrative if you're going to try and continue that story. Why do we need another three movies of "young nobody from a desert planet is mentored by monk who failed and goes on to overcome the evil Empire and found a new order of space monks"? In what way is that additive or deepening the story of this series of films? Again, it's not just that it doesn't do the old characters justice, it's also that the main character of the new films doesn't have her own arc and the setting of the story is pretty much the same as it was before. Wouldn't letting the old characters have their own victories and roles to play while giving the new characters something new to do make everything stronger, both old and new? Would you be okay with it if in ten years they do another trilogy where some kid from the desert has to find Rey in exile so she can teach this new kid to fight the "New Order"? I know that historically it's not like everything only ever happens once, but if this is supposed to be some "Epic Saga" why not actually have the successive generations of characters as part of new stories, rather than doing a slightly different version of the same basic thing?
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^Also this.^wizard on a water slide posted:this is a really weird way to interpret poo poo that I see all the time and always confuses me I expected that Star Wars might be a little more optimistic. Although with Doug Jones' victory, it might be that the real world is going to be the place to find optimism and hope, and Star Wars full of bleak "nothing matters" nihilism because wouldn't that be a fitting twist to 2018. That said, I don't think you're wrong per say, just that they really swung too hard in the wrong direction. Sure, I'm a child of divorce, but did they really have to make Han and Leia lovely parents that sent their kid to boarding school and break up when he turned into We Need to Talk About Kevin? Did they really need to wipe out the majority of the galactic republic in the first episode of the sequel trilogy? Like, what is the resistance even fighting for now? A bunch of asteroids? Desert and ice planets? What the hell does the first order even want to rule at this point? poo poo seems pretty wack to me, in terms of scale and tone especially.
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wizard on a water slide posted:this is a really weird way to interpret poo poo that I see all the time and always confuses me I mean I can appreciate this sort of perspective but can you see the perspective that the way TFA resets the status quo almost entirely renders everything Lando, Han, Luke, Leia, Chewy, Threepio, R2, etc fought, killed and died for almost entirely moot? And how bizarrely cynical that is? And then to have TLJ render almost everything about TFA moot is just another baffling  moveLuke and co. from the OT, as of TFA don't have a single meaningful victory under their belts, and in fact seem to have aided in the further degradation of their galaxy That sucks Cheesus posted:And Luke, the Jedi master who saw the conflict in his father and helped him resolve it, with that experience wouldn't have any insight to help his nephew work through it instead of instinctively igniting his lightsaber to slay him? well we have to give the audience a cheer moment don't we oooh let's have a kid use the force on a broom too gently caress yeah this'll be good
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Jose Oquendo posted:You put Rogue One at the #3 so I have no idea if your review/opinions have any any merit. I like war films, I like the idea of stories in the star wars universe that don't focus around the Skywalker family. It was a flawed film, sure, but I loved it for the risks it took and the new things it introduced to what "Being a star wars film" is. Also, just because I have opinions you do not like does not mean they have no merit.
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