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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Yea there are stores there that still don't even have working chip readers

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BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

The best are the ones with chip readers but they jam a piece of paper in there with "CHIP DOES NOT WORK USE SWIPE"

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
welp, here we go again

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

The Management posted:

welp, here we go again

YOSPOS, bithc.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



I like the honking noise chip readers in the US make when your purchase is approved, that makes it sound like your purchase wasn’t approved.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

EL BROMANCE posted:

I like the honking noise chip readers in the US make when your purchase is approved, that makes it sound like your purchase wasn’t approved.

I bet you they tested a less annoying noise but people kept leaving their cards

HoboMan
Nov 4, 2010

i help maintain a point of sale system and the incredible number of complaints about transactions being super slow, combined with my own experience at checkouts has soured me to the whole "chip and pin" system

especially since we decided to eliminate the two factor security of needing a pin

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

infernal machines posted:

what 3rd world hellhole do y'all live in where your cards haven't all had contactless for at least five years?

they stopped issuing those in like 2013

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



im a big fan of how if your chip doesnt work 3 times it just lets you swipe, so you can put a piece of tape over the chip and completely bypass it

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

NEED MORE MILK posted:

im a big fan of how if your chip doesnt work 3 times it just lets you swipe, so you can put a piece of tape over the chip and completely bypass it

my time is worthless: the android user story.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

my time is worthless and i've gone out of my way to bypass even the minimal security measure provided: the android user story.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

America. Chips are new to us.

contactless has been in the us for a long time

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

It floundered and died years ago until apple decided to do it

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

It floundered and died years ago until apple decided to do it

google had two or three nfc systems that had a few thousand users max

one other thing about apple pay was it was relatively easy for banks to implement, last place I worked I knew a guy on the team that did it and they got it set up in under a year [which for a big bank is a miracle]

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

I like the honking noise chip readers in the US make when your purchase is approved, that makes it sound like your purchase wasn’t approved.

some of them make a pleasant sound. not many I’ve run into though.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

It floundered and died years ago until apple decided to do it

no it didn't. it stayed around and hasn't changed since it started and its ubiquity is what caused apple to choose it for apple pay

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

lol

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

whoever grabs your card after you lose your wallet is equally capable of taping over the chip

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Jabor posted:

whoever grabs your card after you lose your wallet is equally capable of taping over the chip

that's why everyone has been trained to call their issuer whenever they lose their card, and why issuers call you when your card is used somewhere you'd never go, like the hard rock casino in hollywood fl

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
my card people called me when I ordered something from the Microsoft store lol

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Shaggar posted:

no it didn't. it stayed around and hasn't changed since it started and its ubiquity is what caused apple to choose it for apple pay

nope, tokenization rolled out at the same time as Apple Pay. before that it was just virtual swipes.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
same diff from a user experience

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

what's funny is that some merchants started to intentionally disable the nfc capabilities of their terminals after apple pay started rolling out, even though contactless payments worked there before

walmart still does this because they would rather people use their lovely qr code app which is tied directly to the user's bank account

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Dec 13, 2017

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Cocoa Crispies posted:

that's why everyone has been trained to call their issuer whenever they lose their card, and why issuers call you when your card is used somewhere you'd never go, like the hard rock casino in hollywood fl

Shaggar posted:

my card people called me when I ordered something from the Microsoft store lol

the system works

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Jabor posted:

whoever grabs your card after you lose your wallet is equally capable of taping over the chip

my card specifically says "swipe not allowed" if you try to use the magstripe on a terminal that has a chip reader

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Cocoa Crispies posted:

that's why everyone has been trained to call their issuer whenever they lose their card, and why issuers call you when your card is used somewhere you'd never go, like the hard rock casino in hollywood fl

hey now, some of us are looking forward to the ridiculous guitar shaped hotel at the Seminole.

HoboMan
Nov 4, 2010

my bank keeps flagging my card whenever i use it at the corner store two blocsk from where i live

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
probably because a bunch of people report their cards getting skimmed after and also shop there

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Dec 14, 2017

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
or cards that have been skimmed are frequently used there.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
yeah, they can't necessarily tell the difference

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



infernal machines posted:

what 3rd world hellhole do y'all live in where your cards haven't all had contactless for at least five years?

I had to sign for a magstripe transaction in new york, and i was so confused because it's been about 20 years since that was a thing in Europe

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

jre posted:

I had to sign for a magstripe transaction in new york, and i was so confused because it's been about 20 years since that was a thing in Europe

the chip reader at a petrol station around here was broken a little while ago and they made me do a swipe and sign transaction
i was real loving confused and i kept a keen eye on my bank for months afterwards

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

jre posted:

I had to sign for a magstripe transaction in new york, and i was so confused because it's been about 20 years since that was a thing in Europe

visiting yurop, american cards still print a slip and require a signature

this freaks the gently caress out of cashiers and baristas. and nobody ever has a pen.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

visiting yurop, american cards still print a slip and require a signature

this freaks the gently caress out of cashiers and baristas. and nobody ever has a pen.

as of next year most payment processors are eliminating any remaining signature requirements since they found, to great surprise i'm sure, that making people draw a squiggly line vaguely resembling a signature doesn't actually do anything to prevent fraud

now the us just needs to catch up to europe 10+ years ago with those wireless payment terminals in restaurants so you can use mobile payment systems or pay with a card without the waiter taking it out of your sight

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

visiting yurop, american cards still print a slip and require a signature

this freaks the gently caress out of cashiers and baristas. and nobody ever has a pen.

this was definitely true in wales and france for me, but scotland, england, belgium, and netherlands all seemed unsurprised. i think wales isn't terrible used to american visitors and frenchpeople have to pantomime offense at literally everything that american visitors do.

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

"We have this notion that if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

As the audience reluctantly began to applaud during the silence, Biden tried to fix his remarks.

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids -- no, I really mean it." Biden said.

atomicthumbs posted:

they stopped issuing those in like 2013

What?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

this appears to be the closest place to a smartphone thread. Is the Nokia N9 still usable in A.D. 2017, and is it better than all Android phones past and present??

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
no and yes, respectively

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Maximo Roboto posted:

this appears to be the closest place to a smartphone thread. Is the Nokia N9 still usable in A.D. 2017, and is it better than all Android phones past and present??

who woke the fishy mech bot ityoogl nearly-2018???

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
what if android but no apps and a six year old browser that will never again be updated

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