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he's called Bakugo not Sasuke now
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Dec 13, 2017 00:21
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Dec 13, 2017 02:20
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Japan likes bad and dumb characters like Sasuke. America likes literal monsters. I don't know who loses. We all lose
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Dec 13, 2017 04:20
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PMush Perfect posted:He even had a whole arc where he realized the only time Goku took him seriously was when he was evil. Wasn't it half mind control mojo?
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Dec 13, 2017 04:34
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he let babidi give him a power boost but vegeta was in control there
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Dec 13, 2017 04:36
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Japan likes bad and dumb characters like Sasuke. America likes literal monsters. I don't know who loses. Sasuke is cool and has done less bad things than Vegeta
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Dec 13, 2017 04:39
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Aurora posted:Sasuke is cool and has done less bad things than Vegeta psh everyone forgets that kakashi's name was in the bingo book as well, how many did he murder?
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Dec 13, 2017 06:39
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Orochimaru is about peak forgiveness creep imo
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Dec 13, 2017 15:34
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He wasn't even really forgiven, people just let him stick around afterwards without talking about it.
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Dec 13, 2017 15:38
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Relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeYIlET3szA I really appreciate them telling All Might that Shigaraki is a terrible murderer so All Might is not allowed to confront him as his feelings for his grandparent would get in the way.
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Dec 13, 2017 15:52
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I mean, basically the entire cast of Dragon Ball aside from Goku and his immediate family were villains at one point or another.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:01
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SpacePig posted:I mean, basically the entire cast of Dragon Ball aside from Goku and his immediate family were villains at one point or another. I assume you aren't watching Super. Also his immediate family includes no less than two planet-conquering, genocidal monsters (pre-Bardock retcons), so you know, not even that.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:02
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Tbf Goku did kill his grandpa as a baby.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:04
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Blaze Dragon posted:I assume you aren't watching Super. I'm not. Gosh, is Goku a villain now? What a weird show. And I completely forgot about his dad and brother being as bad as or worse than Vegeta. So yeah, basically everybody on that show was a villain in some way or other.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:09
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SpacePig posted:I'm not. Gosh, is Goku a villain now? What a weird show. Goku' s midlife crisis is getting multiple universes deleted
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Dec 13, 2017 16:11
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TL;DR: Toriyama's feelings are "Goku's not really Good, it's more that he does good incidentally because he likes to fight people and just keeps getting pointed in the right direction". And that's kind of started causing issues. To be fair, though, Zen-Oh was probably gonna delete those universes anyways, Goku's just saved one of them.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:31
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Terper posted:He wasn't even really forgiven, people just let him stick around afterwards without talking about it.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:38
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PMush Perfect posted:TL;DR: Toriyama's feelings are "Goku's not really Good, it's more that he does good incidentally because he likes to fight people and just keeps getting pointed in the right direction". And that's kind of started causing issues. It is hard to say how much of this is Zen-Ohs doing as he seems to have an attention span of about five seconds.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:47
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Fabricated posted:He dissected children as one of his main hobbies Guy did a dangerous experiment on 50 babies he kidnapped and did not even bother checking if any of them survived it. (Only one did and was rescued) Guy was without a doubt the most depraved character in the series. It's kind amazing he got off Scot free.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:49
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I love Orochimaru's dumb ending. He died, and then came back to life without it being his plan. So he just chilled out and wanted to watch what happened next while considering himself removed from the final conflict. Then no one knew what to do with him besides keep an eye on him. So he started doing unethical experiments with clones, until he finally got an immortal body. And hes the only one that actually understands the concept of genetic clones vs shadow/water/sand clones so the Hokage Naruto deemed it ok.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:01
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Gruckles posted:I love Orochimaru's dumb ending. He also set up his Sound village as a legitimate one. Really the only big thing that changed with him is that he became interested in watching natural development alongside unnatural development.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:37
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It wouldn't be the first time the Japanese got a free pass performing unethical experiments on human beings because their knowledge was deemed useful.
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Dec 13, 2017 21:32
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Goku' s midlife crisis is getting multiple universes deleted people like to say this but it's explicitly not what happened and goku is the only reason any of them have a chance of making it out alive at all. like directly before goku shows up, the zeno's say they're gonna destroy everything and goku asking for the tournament is the only thing that lets one universe survive at the end. well discounting the fact that it's dragon ball and they're obviously gonna get wished back anyway the werewolf guy pr campaigned goku into being the bad guy to the other universes tho
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Dec 13, 2017 22:05
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Eej posted:It wouldn't be the first time the Japanese got a free pass performing unethical experiments on human beings because their knowledge was deemed useful. Lmao
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Dec 13, 2017 22:12
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Manatee Cannon posted:people like to say this but it's explicitly not what happened and goku is the only reason any of them have a chance of making it out alive at all. like directly before goku shows up, the zeno's say they're gonna destroy everything and goku asking for the tournament is the only thing that lets one universe survive at the end. well discounting the fact that it's dragon ball and they're obviously gonna get wished back anyway I always just view that as a desperate attempt to make Goku seem less monstrous then he really is. Anyway there is a new Vigilante chapter out on Viz. I really have come to enjoy just how all the characters act and how generally low key everything feels.
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Dec 14, 2017 00:46
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Eej posted:It wouldn't be the first time the Japanese got a free pass performing unethical experiments on human beings because their knowledge was deemed useful. Wasn't the knowledge they gained of extremely dubious usefulness due to the shoddy scientific methods used?
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Dec 14, 2017 01:12
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It was pretty much a veneer for horrible sadism like their German equivalents.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:26
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Terper posted:He wasn't even really forgiven, people just let him stick around afterwards without talking about it. At this point I think it mostly comes down to "Killing you is more trouble than it's worth and you'll just bullshit your way back to life anyway."
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Dec 14, 2017 01:26
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Shadowlyger posted:At this point I think it mostly comes down to "Killing you is more trouble than it's worth and you'll just bullshit your way back to life anyway." yeah pretty much he's under house arrest 24/7
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Dec 14, 2017 01:37
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Slime posted:Wasn't the knowledge they gained of extremely dubious usefulness due to the shoddy scientific methods used? Yep. Ditto for Nazi experiments.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:42
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Then that's pretty accurate to Orochimaru, a guy who's idea of science was just kind of injecting kids with stuff. Tree guy cells, monster guy cells...when he was feeling REALLY inspired he put like, wind pipes into people so they could shoot wind. I consider that just injecting them with wind pipes tbh.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:48
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Kild posted:yeah pretty much he's under house arrest 24/7 Except not at all and he is free to go were he pleases. People just spy on him. He went to Parent Teacher Day. While laughing that was he was to come and go from the Hokage's office as he pleased.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:30
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Finally read the new vigilantes chapter. bees? in my vagina? It might be more likely than you think
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Dec 14, 2017 02:42
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Fabricated posted:Finally read the new vigilantes chapter. bees? in my vagina? It might be more likely than you think Vigilantes is going places. Dangerous, terrifying places. 
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Dec 14, 2017 03:04
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Shinjobi posted:Vigilantes is going places.
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Dec 14, 2017 04:30
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https://imgur.com/a/ZvZZj the chapter since no one is linking it
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Dec 14, 2017 04:52
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So my running theory on that one is The girl is just a bee hive, basically. The actual villain is probably a queen bee or something. Judging by the eyepatch and apparent comatose state of punchman's wife there, she might have been a previous host? pretty interesting implications this chapter though.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:13
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Shinjobi posted:Vigilantes is going places. 
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Vigilantes once again proving itself superior to the main series. It seems like the arc's gonna get pretty dark and revengey with bee lady apparently having put punch daddy's wife into the hospital, but I like where it's headed so far. Skirt bees is a little weird, but certainly not the worst thing we've seen from the series.
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