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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

I bet his heart skipped a beat when he heard that Disney migh be buying his hugbox.

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volts5000
Apr 7, 2009

It's electric. Boogie woogie woogie.

Trivia posted:

I've only taken a few econ courses in school, but have read several books based on D&D's recommendations.

Got any interesting ones you yourself liked? I find economics pretty fascinating but good luck trying to find someone outside of a uni who'll chat about it.

Inequality For All is my go-to documentary about the economy.

https://inequalityforall.com

It looks like there are some full uploads of it on YouTube.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Pai said that we need to repeal net neutrality because of Bitcoin miners are sucking up all the bandwidth

The coins keep falling off the back of the chains and clogging up the pipes


Remember that whole shitshow from a billion years ago? That was about ending net neutrality too

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

I thought they had a deal? Why are they still making changes?

Maybe there's still.time for them.to gently caress it up

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Alter Ego posted:

Speaker of the House Randy "Iron Stache" Bryce

(yes, I know he wouldn't become Speaker)

He must be seeing some truly heinous early numbers in his race, because otherwise he'd just step down from the Speakership.

I mean he's won his district pretty handily every time, so I'd bet it's more that he figures this was his peak. Better to get out now rather than later when he's just a nobody Rep with a brief and largely ineffectual flirtation with leadership.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I thought they had a deal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Pai said that we need to repeal net neutrality because of Bitcoin miners are sucking up all the bandwidth

You know you can't make jokes like this when there's a nonzero chance he really said that.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I thought they had a deal? Why are they still making changes?

Maybe there's still.time for them.to gently caress it up

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/941369996575412225

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
:cawg:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/kylef/status/941365373642858496

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I thought they had a deal? Why are they still making changes?

Maybe there's still.time for them.to gently caress it up

They had what was described as a deal on the broad principles, which you may interpret as no deal at all. The GOP was always agreed on the broad principles of the deal, which are as always more money for us, gently caress you.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
And Susan Collins will still vote for it :suicide:

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I thought they had a deal? Why are they still making changes?

Maybe there's still.time for them.to gently caress it up

Everything I've seen said they had an agreement "in principle" which lmfao is not "we have a bill we have the votes for"

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/AGSchneiderman/status/941370862976012288

Schneiderman 2020

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

axeil posted:

Ah, yep! That's what it was called and it was von Mises who wrote the paper I'm thinking of which is called "Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth".

At least I think that's the paper I'm thinking of. I recall the one I read having a proof for why a command/mixed economy could not be as efficient as a free-market but I'm not seeing the argument I remember seeing in my brief glance at that 1920 paper. Could've been some follow-up paper that I'm blanking on the name of.

It's an interesting debate and the one (and only one) arena where I will concede the Austrian's arguments aren't completely ridiculous (just very naive).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

edit: I would also add that the Austrian insistence that the calculation problem means socialism will never work is too strong a conclusion. It is a problem (potentially), but not a fatal one.

Well one thing I would say is that socialism means workers own the means of production not the government. So it might be true that command economies are inefficient but "Socialist Commonwealth" is a misnomer.

Also some Austrian came up with the "subjective theory of value" so maybe that is two things they got right.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Lemming posted:

Everything I've seen said they had an agreement "in principle" which lmfao is not "we have a bill we have the votes for"

"They" being "leadership"

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy
My only regret is that I'll never know if Johnson felt any pain when he blew his brains out. gently caress that piece of poo poo.

http://longcon.kycir.org/

Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Angry_Ed posted:

You know you can't make jokes like this when there's a nonzero chance he really said that.

I 100% heard and watched him say that.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Exactly how +R is Ryan's district

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
I really hope the tax bill blows up in their face like health care did. It's all I want for Christmas.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling
What exactly do the Republicans want to do to Medicare in 2018? What are the chances they will succeed?

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

"there won't be anyone left on the internet to complain if I trick everyone into punching their monitors!", thinks Pai

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

SHOAH NUFF posted:

What exactly do the Republicans want to do to Medicare in 2018? What are the chances they will succeed?

end it, and 50/50

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Exactly how +R is Ryan's district

91.1% white, 53-42 Trump in 2016.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Lightning Knight posted:

91.1% white, 53-42 Trump in 2016.

Ok so yeah a seven point swing is entirely within predictions

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

How does this man exist?

He's a Dril tweet personified.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Exactly how +R is Ryan's district

He won it pretty handily, but his seat has historically been pretty purple.

His district comprises a largely educated white suburban voter base, but also includes elements of Racine and Kenosha.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Dmitri-9 posted:

Well one thing I would say is that socialism means workers own the means of production not the government. So it might be true that command economies are inefficient but "Socialist Commonwealth" is a misnomer.

Also some Austrian came up with the "subjective theory of value" so maybe that is two things they got right.

Yeah, wasn't it Trotsky who argued a true socialist economy would not be command and instead based on the communes of workers determining their output and thus it would mimic a free market system instead of a central planning commission like what Stalin had?

Lightning Knight posted:

91.1% white, 53-42 Trump in 2016.

I am 95% sure he's retiring because he suspects he will lose his seat in November if he sticks around.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Exactly how +R is Ryan's district

A slim R+5

hanales
Nov 3, 2013

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Exactly how +R is Ryan's district

Pretty high. Haven't you heard about all the gun shows they have there?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Ok so yeah a seven point swing is entirely within predictions

Possibly, this district isn't like Alabama, it's a heavily gerrymandered district filled predominantly with affluent white suburbanites, with one significant city (Racine).

Ironstache has an advantage (should he win the primary, which is most likely) in that he is a white dude blue collar type, so he can peel off more lower middle class types like my parents from the upper class assholes, though.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010

Ularg posted:

How does this man exist?

He's a Dril tweet personified.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7js0aj/based_regulation_slayer_ajit_pai_trolls_the_shit/

quote:

Based regulation slayer Ajit Pai TROLLS THE poo poo out of snowflake Soros NN shills. Shitposting has become an art form! TENDIES EVERYWHERE!

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

how do you post this and not feel very stupid

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

I'm toxxing right here, right now: Donald Glover will run for and win the Presidency of the United States in the year 2020. God bless.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Is there a even vaguely legitimate sounding argument against net neutrality, or is this just 100% republicans knowing their base has absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything at all ever?

Like, I'm not looking to be convinced NN is bad, but is anyone even trying? "Lowering corporate taxes will make more jobs" is bullshit, but it's at least an argument. What is the argument here?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Is this dude 12?

JFC

Slugworth posted:

Is there a even vaguely legitimate sounding argument against net neutrality, or is this just 100% republicans knowing their base has absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything at all ever?

Like, I'm not looking to be convinced NN is bad, but is anyone even trying? "Lowering corporate taxes will make more jobs" is bullshit, but it's at least an argument. What is the argument here?

Regulation Bad!

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


axeil posted:

I don't think any other economics book out there is talking about stuff that happened in the 17th and 18th centuries.

FWIW, an aside. There are plenty of work about that, but afaik American econ literature is heavily oriented towards the big three (chicago/columbia/harvard) - outside the anglo-saxon mainstream there are plenty of perspectives using a lot of interesting methods.

Schumpeter, for one, wrote plenty about past crises thanks to his idea of creative destruction. There's Karl Polanyi and his Great Transformation, which a mammoth work of anthropology applied with economics about how capitalism transformed man and vice-versa, with a lot dedicated to crises. The Scandinavian authors are also great (I think Veblen and Myrdal are some of the absolute greatest econ intellectuals and it is a goddamn disgrace that they are so little known). There are also the new Marxist authors with plenty of approaches (geographical, historical, sociological) which David Harvey is (imho) the most accessible and interesting.

Also, there are other guys like Wallerstein and Arrighi which study crises through the lens of world-systems theory, which is a pretty good framework form some problems in economics. And for a more technical approach, I really like guys like Hyman Minsky: his explanation for the inherent instability of financial markets is imho loving solid

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

haveblue posted:

Scroll to the bottom and there's an itemized list of lies. Keep your doctor is counted.

You know what. I'm okay with them counting that as a lie. If I let Obama get away with a false claim because he believed it then all of a sudden Trump becomes the most honest president ever.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Ok so yeah a seven point swing is entirely within predictions

Percentage of white people notwithstanding, someone like Iron Stache is the perfect foil to someone like Ryan, and if the Republicans end up with some smoothbrain pizzagater as their nominee I'd put this seat in play easily.

Just please, God, let him have no skeletons in his closet.

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Slugworth posted:

Is there a even vaguely legitimate sounding argument against net neutrality, or is this just 100% republicans knowing their base has absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything at all ever?

Like, I'm not looking to be convinced NN is bad, but is anyone even trying? "Lowering corporate taxes will make more jobs" is bullshit, but it's at least an argument. What is the argument here?

No, it's nothing but "gently caress you".

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