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Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Erdricks posted:

Its not even the hanjos. I had two games in a row where someone called gg and stopped participating in under 5 minutes when nothing serious had happened.

Just had a match where I was top hero damage as Malfurion.

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Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Mind over Matter posted:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20760635893#1

Short version: MMR hosed up, but not related to performance-based matching. They hope to fix it tomorrow but not certain yet.

The best part of this Blizzard post is that they do not indicate in any way whatsoever how you would know if your account was "affected"

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Libertine posted:

The best part of this Blizzard post is that they do not indicate in any way whatsoever how you would know if your account was "affected"

Are you dense? There's absolutely no way for a player to know if they were affected. How could you possibly think there would be?

Erdricks
Sep 8, 2005

There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

Toshimo posted:

Are you dense? There's absolutely no way for a player to know if they were affected. How could you possibly think there would be?

When you check out the people you are playing with and they are obviously less experienced?

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Libertine posted:

The best part of this Blizzard post is that they do not indicate in any way whatsoever how you would know if your account was "affected"

I figured that "Don't play HL until then, and if you get reset you were affected" was implied, honestly.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Toshimo posted:

Are you dense? There's absolutely no way for a player to know if they were affected. How could you possibly think there would be?

Yes me and every single reply in that thread. We are all morons.

The only reason to use the language is to try and clarify for people whether or not they should continue to play HL, which the post does not do at all, which leaves it entirely vague like "hey maybe play ranked maybe don't, you might be 'affected'" that's not helpful at all.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Here I thought my jump from plat to diamond was a sign of personal improvement, not a bugged system. :sigh:

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
So... actual stealth you say?

https://streamable.com/exok7

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Elysium posted:

So... actual stealth you say?

https://streamable.com/exok7

Absolutely the best.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

I am serious I have no loving idea what to do. Everyone on my team have always run in at least 1v3 or said to do boss when their entire team is alive or don't listen to pings. While their team has a Kerrigan who can hit their kombo 100% of the time or a Hanzo who has immaculate aiming. Did this patch just just gently caress over Quick Match or something?



This poo poo is why I only play AI mode in HotS

This post is just me venting steam, I am incredibly frustrated.

Filthy Monkey
Jun 25, 2007

Newbie diary, day FRESH MEAT. Still trying out free heroes, as they are all new to me. In the past three days I have reached 5 with Li Li, Stukov, Varian, and Butcher.

Li-li actually seems mildly amusing if I feel like turning my brain off. Two abilities that don't need to be targeted, and one that only requires me to click an ally. Her actual healing thoughput feels pretty good, though admittedly I haven't tried all of the supports.

Stukov definitely requires more work to play, as I actually have to hit and time things instead of mashing my face on the qwe buttons. My hunch is that he is probably better? His healing is more bursty, but killswitch does have a longer cooldown than Li Li's tea enemas. His lurking arm feels handy too, and I have been using it to reveal stealth enemies.

Varian seems very flexible. Being a certified quickplay scrub newbie, I was using a twinblades setup, which seems to be able to outtrade anything except a juiced up butcher. It is pretty lovely at waveclear, but it does clean up camps and lets you push around anybody who can't stun you.

Butcher seems....pretty sweet if things are going well. Admittedly, his meat stacking feels kind of like a 'win more' mechanic. If my team is getting wrecked, I am probably not collecting all the meats. If we are doing a good job in fights, butcher just seems to start dominating harder and harder. In my last game of the night I finished with 370 stacks of meat at level 23, and was autoattacking for 804 damage a hit. We won that one.

tcjimbo
May 15, 2008

This is Jimbo!
Hey-hey, man!
We got this!

Spudd posted:

I am serious I have no loving idea what to do. Everyone on my team have always run in at least 1v3 or said to do boss when their entire team is alive or don't listen to pings. While their team has a Kerrigan who can hit their kombo 100% of the time or a Hanzo who has immaculate aiming. Did this patch just just gently caress over Quick Match or something?



This poo poo is why I only play AI mode in HotS

This post is just me venting steam, I am incredibly frustrated.

Play with goons. If playing with goons, play with better goons.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

tcjimbo posted:

Play with goons. If playing with goons, play with better goons.

But never EVER play with...

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

tcjimbo posted:

Play with goons. If playing with goons, play with better goons.

The issue with this is most goons are in America I need to find people in Australia, I already lag if I get put into a Singapore server imagine if I got into one of your servers.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
Yo Valeera is crazy good now, I wonder how long this is going to last

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

tcjimbo posted:

Play with goons. If playing with goons, play with better goons.

You're always saying goons are terrible and are bad at the game because we/they don't play the objective or map.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

lucifirius posted:

You're always saying goons are terrible and are bad at the game because we/they don't play the objective or map.

Don't worry about that, too much. Jimbo says I'm the worst player that he's ever seen, but I was ranked higher than him when the game released and I ranked higher than him in the season that just ended, so I'm pretty sure he just says that because he secretly has a crush on me.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Toshimo posted:

Don't worry about that, too much. Jimbo says I'm the worst player that he's ever seen, but I was ranked higher than him when the game released and I ranked higher than him in the season that just ended, so I'm pretty sure he just says that because he secretly has a crush on me.

Yeah I just have him on ignore because it's better for my sanity.

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
I take back my making GBS threads on Hanzo. After watching McIntyre show him off, I played some quick match and tore it up. Scatter is still weird to aim, but I can typically get it fairly close now after some practice. Natural agility also feels kinda janky to use, but I'm getting more used to it.

Erdricks
Sep 8, 2005

There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

Dick Burglar posted:

I take back my making GBS threads on Hanzo. After watching McIntyre show him off, I played some quick match and tore it up. Scatter is still weird to aim, but I can typically get it fairly close now after some practice. Natural agility also feels kinda janky to use, but I'm getting more used to it.

Its funny to see the divergence in opinion between the reddit community and the pros playing around with banjo on twitch. I was watching Kala from TS tonight since I like his community coaching series and Kala also really liked Hanzo. Second night of banjo praise from streamers, particularly for the w build.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


I think people just didn't get Hanzo for a little while. His Q is comparable to Chromie's in damage and easier to aim since you can continually aim it as the range goes out, but he can hit structures too, and sonic arrow is really good.

Lprsti99
Apr 7, 2011

Everything's coming up explodey!

Pillbug
You guys nuva is super fun

Olaf The Stout
Oct 16, 2009

FORUMS NO.1 SLEEPY DAWGS MEMESTER

Lprsti99 posted:

You guys nuva is super fun

Today my friends and I won 5 quickmatch games in a row queueing as TLV, Nova, Valeera, and Zera. The 5th didn't matter. I would hold down lane soak with three vikings and the stealth rotation deletion was incredible. Valeera opening with that silence would set up guaranteed kills on muradins while garrosh would be fleeing.

We had no real ability to do objectives like haunted mines, the stealthies would just farm an incredible amount of kills until the death timers and late game TLV pushing ability came online to win games.

Three buffs to TLV from this patch: The globe changes make their trait much stronger. I can stack over 60 globes a game now, giving them almost as much regen as murky. Three different camps were buffed or changed to make them much stronger, which combos amazingly well with TLV's lvl 4 merc lord talent, which gives a 50% buff to the health and damage of mercs. Lastly, the tower ammo changes are hugely beneficial to the vikings overall style of safe soak behind towers to grab xp.

Overall best patch I can recall in a long time.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Midnightghoul posted:

Yo Valeera is crazy good now, I wonder how long this is going to last

How are you building her? I really like grabbing all the garotte talents and just goin to town on people but that's probably suboptimal.

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Valeera's silence is just stupid long now. As Genji, a single Valeera silence at any time meant I died because she can kill me before it wears off and all I can do is try to walk away.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED

The Shortest Path posted:

How are you building her? I really like grabbing all the garotte talents and just goin to town on people but that's probably suboptimal.

https://heroeshearth.com/builds/mcintyre/mcintyre-heroes-30-valeera-build/ is pretty much how I saw people building her, mostly with Ad. Rush at 20 instead. Dunktrain was spamming her in HL last night on stream and she just completely destroys people during the silence window, especially after 16

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



I don't know if Hanzo is overall bad or if I'm just bad with him, but drat I'm losing so many games. Still having fun because he's a blast to play, but probably tanking my MMR.

Edit: I know HotSLogs MMR isn't Blizzard's, but wow. Down by around 500 points in two days.

Mind over Matter fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Dec 14, 2017

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
I regret ever building Murky around not specifically fighting. Like taking his talent that makes him stronger the longer he's alive or taking Big Tuna Kahuna. Things meant more to keep him alive and kind of a threat but mostly to do the PVE stuff better.

No more. Ink talents all day er' day. Once he hits 16-20 he's loving ruthless in team fights. He can take camps very fast without the support of bribes at that point. I take march cause it slimes them and I can slime them with the pufferfish and slime them with my regular slime and slime them repeatedly really fast with the level 20 talent and goddamn!!! Murky rules!!!! I used to loath Braxis as Murky. Not anymore. Bring me my slime quest stacks

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Big Tuna Kahuna is still really good. Not being blown up by Valeera instantly means you are alive to slime. Having tons of health means you can just stand in there and AA them (for a free Slime every third) all day.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Elysium posted:

Big Tuna Kahuna is still really good. Not being blown up by Valeera instantly means you are alive to slime. Having tons of health means you can just stand in there and AA them (for a free Slime every third) all day.

Pffft Valeera don't scare me

Butter Hole
Dec 8, 2011

I've only played a few QMs since the patch, but does the game feel REALLY pushy to anyone else right now? It seems like whatever team pushes harder or has more specialists wins and teamfights don't matter as much.

I already though waveclear was OP but now it seems even more OP. I dunno, it just felt really snowbally. Course I didn't play too much. Hopefully the meta sorts itself out soon.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
The coward Valeera crushed by mighty fish Murky

TwoWordName
Jan 3, 2013


I had the most confusing QM experience of my life last night and in my drunken haze I don't think I managed to get a screen shot. My duo (Johanna and Murky) and three strangers (Li Li, Morales, and Hammer) were matched against a four stack of level 1000 players (Stitches, Hanzo, Garrosh, Ragnaros) and a pubbie Auriel. Our team immediately resigned ourselves to quickly and quietly while partying the entire way. I can't decided what actually ended up happening is either the greatest object lesson that time investment, team organization, and balanced team composition are all lies that don't matter in QM or the most horrendous throw in history.

Highlights of the match include Ragnaros killing himself on Murky's fake eggs, Morales ending the match with more kills then any other player in the match, and winning because a tank and two healers rushed the core while they were capturing the braxis beacon. We ended the game three levels up on them and really confused if that was an intentional throw or not. When I looked at the other team's profiles I noticed two of them were chat muted, the Auriel has literally never played a non-auriel hero (Level 113), and the highest any of them were ranked was bronze 5.

So was that a real match or a brilliant plan to fight lower MMR players or which ones of you in this thread was that?

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Butter Hole posted:

I've only played a few QMs since the patch, but does the game feel REALLY pushy to anyone else right now? It seems like whatever team pushes harder or has more specialists wins and teamfights don't matter as much.

I already though waveclear was OP but now it seems even more OP. I dunno, it just felt really snowbally. Course I didn't play too much. Hopefully the meta sorts itself out soon.

You're definitely not the first to notice. I'm wondering if/when we're going to see changes.

Also the fact that they didn't modify orb quests at all is a bit mystifying. And I'm pretty sure they mucked up neutral orbs from objective mobs so they disappear faster using the new 4 second timer.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

TwoWordName posted:

the Auriel has literally never played a non-auriel hero (Level 113)

This is the most mindboggling part of your post, imo. I can't imagine why anyone would do that to themselves.

TwoWordName
Jan 3, 2013


They had almost every hero in the game unlocked as well if their collection tab was reporting accurately.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



TwoWordName posted:

So was that a real match or a brilliant plan to fight lower MMR players or which ones of you in this thread was that?

I have no clue what it was, but it was an amazing story. Also, if you want to watch it or screenshot things or whatever you can probably go in and find the replay.

bio347
Oct 29, 2012
Well, there's nothing that says playing a lot makes you better at the game.

whalestory
Feb 9, 2004

hey ya'll!

Pillbug

bio347 posted:

Well, there's nothing that says playing a lot makes you better at the game.

But once you hit 10,000 hours you'll become a god

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EdRush
Dec 13, 2005

by R. Guyovich
You can get a free loot chest by going to your battle.net client and clicking on View Gifts



Apparently it is to celebrate loot chests being giftable

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