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Teenage Fansub posted:You will not besmirch the Uncanny Inhumans tie-in to IvX. I mean IvX has the dumb "We've created a machine that converts Terrigan mist to Crystals again!" "Wow that's amaz-" "So we can destroy it all!"
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Uh huh. The event wasn't good, but the actual run was by far the most enjoyable superhero team book at the time, but I did enough trying to get y'all past the perceived push at the time and I guess it's no different a few years later, so that's me. Bye.
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Dec 15, 2017 08:26
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Teenage Fansub posted:Uh huh. The event wasn't good, but the actual run was by far the most enjoyable superhero team book at the time, but I did enough trying to get y'all past the perceived push at the time and I guess it's no different a year or so later, so that's me. Bye. Reminds me of my constant attempts to get people to move past One More Day to read the Spidey period that followed
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Dec 15, 2017 08:29
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Hey wait a minute What's this now about Wanda and Pietro being reconned back to being Magneto's children? When did that ever change? Is Polaris being his other kid still a thing?
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Dec 15, 2017 08:35
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that happened a while ago. idk the timeline of that change but it was probably around the time marvel decided to include wanda and pietro in the second avengers movie 
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Dec 15, 2017 08:37
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Teenage Fansub posted:Uh huh. The event wasn't good, but the actual run was by far the most enjoyable superhero team book at the time, but I did enough trying to get y'all past the perceived push at the time and I guess it's no different a few years later, so that's me. Bye. Yeah, the overall story was bad, but the books themselves were great at and real fun. Manatee Cannon posted:that happened a while ago. idk the timeline of that change but it was probably around the time marvel decided to include wanda and pietro in the second avengers movie It was, and I hope it will be put back to the old status as quickly as possible.
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Dec 15, 2017 08:41
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I feel like the stunt Marvel pulled downplaying the X-Men and getting rid of the Fantastic Four and trying to push the Inhumans is when Marvel sales started to decline. Then replacing all of their main characters with gimmicky legacy versions didn’t help either.
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Dec 15, 2017 09:01
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Lightning Lord posted:The Inhumans work as a weird kingdom of isolationist jerks that live in a magic city or on the moon and don't otherwise They can work as well as any super culture that Jack Kirby created. Asgardians, Mutants, New Gods, Eternals, Inhumans. All cut from similar cloth. I've pointed out before that in the first story arc involving the Inhumans, they are referred to as the Uncanny Inhumans, the X-Men show up for two pages to accept an invitation to Reed and Sue's wedding, and Sue even compares the Inhumans to Mutants.
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Dec 15, 2017 10:32
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I don't mind having necessarily trying to make the Inhumans a thing, and having Marvel trying to revive old concepts from time to time. But they have a lot of baggage as side characters involving eugenics, a slave class, and discrimination based on physical appearance, which is fairly problematic when they're being positioned to replace an oppressed minority metaphor. Functionally the Inhumans might be able to replace the mutant angle of getting to dodge the "how did you get your powers?" question, but they can't realistically replace them thematically. They're not actually two equivalent concepts, and I think that's part of why the whole exercise always rang rather false.
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Dec 15, 2017 10:33
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I don't mind having necessarily trying to make the Inhumans a thing, and having Marvel trying to revive old concepts from time to time. But they have a lot of baggage as side characters involving eugenics, a slave class, and discrimination based on physical appearance, which is fairly problematic when they're being positioned to replace an oppressed minority metaphor. this, pretty much
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Dec 15, 2017 10:42
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Functionally the Inhumans might be able to replace the mutant angle of getting to dodge the "how did you get your powers?" question, but they can't realistically replace them thematically. It's a good thing they didn't, then!
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Dec 15, 2017 11:32
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Teenage Fansub posted:It's a good thing they didn't, then! In the comics they absolutely did. They even showed inhuman teens getting persecuted in bendis uncanny X-Men run. The whole loving thing was the brain child of Ike Perlmutter and some of the big wigs at Marvel to see if they could substitute out the X-Men with another cast of characters and pretend like no one would notice. Luckily Kevin Feige scrapped the inhumans movie in favor of Spider-Man and Perlmutter dumped them on the tv division while also keeping the pressure on the comic division to keep pumping out inhumans books no one was asking for. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 15, 2017 12:05
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Top Gun posted:I feel like the stunt Marvel pulled downplaying the X-Men and getting rid of the Fantastic Four and trying to push the Inhumans is when Marvel sales started to decline. Then replacing all of their main characters with gimmicky legacy versions didn’t help either.
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Dec 15, 2017 13:52
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Gimmicky legacy characters is code for minorities.
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Dec 15, 2017 14:32
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Is Top Gun an American Dracula re-reg?
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Dec 15, 2017 15:19
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irlZaphod posted:Is Top Gun an American Dracula re-reg? I was under the impression that Race Realists was the American Dracula re-reg.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:24
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How far out do we have to be before the creators can all speak candidly about the situation? I wanna hear all about how the idea came about: "a big fuckin' cloud that circles the world randomly turning people into Inhumans, and get this, it also kills Mutants!" The "replacement" could definitely have been done without seeming like a big obvious cloud-shaped gently caress-you to the Mutants. Could have been a gradual supplanting of characters and books, lots of crossover and, above all, teaming up instead of fighting each other, and by the time this whole new Movie Rights situation happened, we might have barely noticed that all the new kids were Inhumans instead of Mutants because they all hung out in each others books and were friends and all thought Beast was a turd. Instead some genius decided the solution was to start killing mutants, make a fuckton of new Inhumans at once, and then have them all go to war with each other because that's what sells comics, smashing the action figures together.
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Dec 15, 2017 17:21
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*stands up* No, I'm nacirema alucard!
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Dec 15, 2017 17:21
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One decent thing that came out of inhumanity/post secret wars inhumans was that they blew up the whole caste system thing and black bolt having like 6 wives who he actually didn't like. those things were gross
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Dec 15, 2017 17:38
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Do they still have alpha primitive slaves
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Diet Poison posted:How far out do we have to be before the creators can all speak candidly about the situation? In this industry? Like a decade at least. Maybe more, depending on how "candid" we're talking. It's a small industry and talking poo poo gets you blackballed, even if it's entirely true poo poo. BetterToRuleInHell posted:Do they still have alpha primitive slaves They keep freeing them and unfreeing them.
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irlZaphod posted:Is Top Gun an American Dracula re-reg?   Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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site posted:black bolt having like 6 wives who he actually didn't like. those things were gross I was trying to think back on which of them Peter Parker and Johnny Storm were partying with in FF. Guess this wasn't the horse wife, but whatever. I'll post the pages anyway, cause they should come out for any occasion.  
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Dec 15, 2017 19:49
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Autism Sneaks posted:*stands up* No, I'm nacirema alucard! :looks over resume: I'm sorry, you haven't said nearly enough hateful things about minorities. Or any at all really. I just don't think we have a place for you here currently. Maybe get back to us when you've developed a vicious hatred of THE GAYS.
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Dec 15, 2017 19:51
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How can you have the page where Peter kisses her and not include the later scene on attilan where they run into each other
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Dec 15, 2017 19:57
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Looks like Johnny was about to get his flame on with MJ.
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head58 posted:Looks like Johnny was about to get his flame on with MJ. Pete wakes up on the couch hungover and listening to Johnny tell her on the phone that she "hit the jackpot".
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good day for a bris posted:Pete wakes up on the couch hungover and listening to Johnny tell her on the phone that she "hit the jackpot". I hate this
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site posted:How can you have the page where Peter kisses her and not include the later scene on attilan where they run into each other Got you covered  FF#21
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Got you covered Ok parts of inhumans are good
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Dec 15, 2017 20:30
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In 2017 peter would be proud of his big butt
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Mr Hootington posted:I hate this Johnny didn't sleep with MJ. If I remember right, he was just messing with Pete.
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Dec 15, 2017 20:43
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You know not the depth of shame in admitting you haven't read FF.
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Dec 15, 2017 20:49
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So like is that Moloid old enough to go out drinking and partying?
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Teenage Fansub posted:You know not the depth of shame in admitting you haven't read FF. It is next after seven soldiers and multiversity.
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Teenage Fansub posted:You know not the depth of shame in admitting you haven't read FF. The Mike Allred FF
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Teenage Fansub posted:Uh huh. The event wasn't good, but the actual run was by far the most enjoyable superhero team book at the time, but I did enough trying to get y'all past the perceived push at the time and I guess it's no different a few years later, so that's me. Bye. It's okay, I'll die on that hill too, bud.
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Onmi posted:I mean IvX has the dumb "We've created a machine that converts Terrigan mist to Crystals again!" "Wow that's amaz-" "So we can destroy it all!" 
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Roth posted:
You show that and don't mention that he ate that ban for crying about all the mean SJWs in BSS to lowtax in a random GBS thread. SAD!
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Nuns with Guns posted:You show that and don't mention that he ate that ban for crying about all the mean SJWs in BSS to lowtax in a random GBS thread. SAD! lmao I never noticed that that's awesome
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