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Milky Moor posted:OT character and not explicitly identified as Coruscant. Same thing as Mustafar it is but also isn't. Like really, this idea feels more like "I wish Disney would ignore the prequels."
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Cat Machine posted:Snoke got as much backstory as the Emperor did before the prequels came around, i.e. none. It doesn't matter who he is or where he came from. He's just the latest Big Bad trying to manipulate poo poo. ANH sets up a big bad empire which is followed through on until Jedi supposedly fixes the problem. Making a direct set of sequels where a threat comes in which appears to directly contradict the originals should at least have a cursory "yeah he was at sith school with big palpy way back when that's why"
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What did everybody make of the scene with Rey in the spooky dark side hole? I liked it and the overall weirdness of it, but I didn't totally grasp what it was getting at. As far as the visual inspiration, there's this of course 
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General Dog posted:What did everybody make of the scene with Rey in the spooky dark side hole? I liked it and the overall weirdness of it, but I didn't totally grasp what it was getting at. It felt like they were trying to emulate the scene in ESB when Luke walks into the Dark Side cave, only with less setup and even less payoff.
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General Dog posted:What did everybody make of the scene with Rey in the spooky dark side hole? I liked it and the overall weirdness of it, but I didn't totally grasp what it was getting at. I thought it was a "you're the most important thing in the galaxy" view of the dark side. Really lovely shots in the film. The lightspeed shot and the speeders were beautiful.
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General Dog posted:What did everybody make of the scene with Rey in the spooky dark side hole? I liked it and the overall weirdness of it, but I didn't totally grasp what it was getting at. She's searching for meaning by trying to find her family. But the only meaning she'll find is within herself. I found it really strange that scene had voice-over narration. Has that happened before? This wasn't like the "one character tells a story to another while the scenes play out" narration, but like right in Rey's head listening to her thoughts. Unless I'm misremembering it, and she was talking to Kylo after the fact.
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PostNouveau posted:She's searching for meaning by trying to find her family. But the only meaning she'll find is within herself. There's a lot of stylistic firsts in this one, especially with the Luke/Rey scenes- first uses of slo-mo, the quick cuts to grass and dirt and clouds and stuff when she's meditating, extensive use of flashbacks including some with Rashomon-style unreliable narration (we see three different versions of the Luke/Ben flashback.)
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Snoke was the worst thing in these new movies, and the fact that they kill him off in such a fantastic way and replace him with the best thing in the new movies was aces. Loved that part, and the fight scene with the royal guards was pretty great too. I have to go and see it again, but it felt like Ben Solo's whole deal was very much a Lucas/Johnson perspective of putting all the nostalgia away and doing something new. Very prequelish in that regard. But they never could fully accept that swerve and you could almost see Disney's hand reaching in and grabbing hold of the movie and yanking it back on course. The scene in Snoke's throne room with Ben asking Rey to join him and let the past go was probably my favorite bit of the movie. Overall this was a mess of a film. Paced extremely weirdly with the whole Finn/Rose storyline on Canto Bight feeling like an odd side story stitched onto the larger narrative. The core conceit of the First Order chasing down the last remaining Rebel ships while they run out of fuel just didn't work for me. It takes the issues with the passage of time that were in ESB and makes them even worse. As much as I love Canto Bight and the imagery of the rich and powerful profiting off the backs of the galactic conflict, it doesn't work in the movie and could have left out to bring the runtime down.
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Is gasoline blue in the Star Wars universe?
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Do you guys think Ben just started working out while shirtless randomly after the first time their minds meet just in the off chance she links again during a workout? I mean all he was missing was a “999... 1000... 1001... 100 oh hi Rey, didn’t see you there”
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Saw this last night at 1:00 am and went to bed at 4:00 am  Movie is good imo There's a LOT going on. A lot of poo poo happens and there are a billion characters and pew pew one-hundred thousand things explode. But it's a blockbuster, so what do you expect? I liked it, it was the most unique Star Wars film imo and was similar to Rogue One in that it's a bit darker and edgier. I loved Luke and his whole Jedi plot. It was very satisfying overall. My main gripe would've been if it was cliffhangery, but I didn't feel like it was. Frijolero fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Dec 15, 2017 17:15
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I saw a youtube review point out that Snoke didn't like Ben's helmet, which means it wasn't Snoke's idea, which means Ben just showed up wearing that loving thing one day and everyone thought it was as weird as you would if your coworker showed up to work in helmet they never took off.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I think I liked this movie a lot more than most people because I didn't watch the monday night football trailer. I remember feeling like i already knew ep 7s plot from reading poo poo and watching the trailers. I went in completely blind and I really liked it 
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PostNouveau posted:She's searching for meaning by trying to find her family. But the only meaning she'll find is within herself. She was talking to Kylo in the scene immediately after when Luke finds them.
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General Dog posted:Is gasoline blue in the Star Wars universe? No, that's milk
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PostNouveau posted:I saw a youtube review point out that Snoke didn't like Ben's helmet, which means it wasn't Snoke's idea, which means Ben just showed up wearing that loving thing one day and everyone thought it was as weird as you would if your coworker showed up to work in helmet they never took off. Well yeah... He's a huge vader fan boy, and vader just happened to have a rad helmet that made him sound like a bad-rear end to disguise the fact he's a disabled old white man. What's a pasty white boy to do but make a shittier helmet with a voice modulator that just makes him hard to hear and strut around like he's not a huge loser?
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I thought the movie was excellent and I plan on seeing it again and maybe again in the near future.
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Danger posted:She was talking to Kylo in the scene immediately after when Luke finds them. Ah, OK. Good that would have been a weird bridge for them to cross.
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Was it just my theater or was there some really jarring shots where the focus shifted from the foreground to background (sorry if there's a more technical term for that). There was scene on the island where it happened like 4 times back to back and it was really fuckin' distracting, like there was some obvious lens distortion around the corners that made it look super sloppy.
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Did anyone else laugh out loud (lol) at the blue milk callback?
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fridge corn posted:Did anyone else laugh out loud (lol) at the blue milk callback? It was one of the few good jokes in the way-too-jokey first hour.
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Just saw it. About on par with TFA. Behind the original trilogy and Rogue One.
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I loved it. Lols to people who think Star Wars was at any point some pure, unadulterated film not intended to sell toys. Lols to people who are too stupid to pick up on plot points, like Benecio Del Toro’s role. Lols to people who missed clear references to the prequels. Lols to people angry that we still don’t know poo poo about Snoke (who cares). The casino planet owned too. Glad we got a random side plot. I guess I’m a terrible person.
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New official film ranking: 5, 4, 3, 8, r1, 6, 7, 1, 2
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Every singe aspect of this movie was terrible. It’s absolutely worse than the prequels. - Opening bomb run, okay, so what... you blew up one ship and lost most of your people. Now we get a three hour slow crawl space chase where they are “at a distance” for the entire movie. Boring as gently caress - They ruined Luke’s character - Oscar Isaac and Benicio are the only two people who know how to act and don’t give wooden performances - The entire plot has no point. The casino planet is pointless and lasts forever. And now they are captured except whoops they survived being exploded at light speed lol. - why is phasma in this at all - porgs, lol - the comedy falls flat, and ruins the tone - Rey’s “training” is 5 minutes sitting on a rock and now she knows everything - yoda, a ghost, can summon lightning lol - and he burns something? But oh wait that doesn’t matter either because Rey saved the books. So that’s pointless as well. The Jedi live on - Snoke is pointless, so why have him. Why is he killed by a magic trick lol - Kylo is now the leader despite failing at everything he has done, he is said to be powerful but we are never shown it - a giant canon that only blows open a door but doesn’t damage the inside of a bunker? - a fat faced girl is Finns love interest now and she is the most annoying character ever put to film - Leia, in space, survives being outside of a ship and an explosion despite never using the force that we have seen, and goofily uses it to summon herself inside again lol - wow, one lightsaber fight - luke projects himself and that causes him to die, amazing - The kid at the end of the movie and that scene looks like a loving McDonalds commercial and is probably the worst ending I’ve ever seen in a film No offense but if you like this movie at all you are most likely braindead and jump up and down when Coke commercials come on. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Liquid Drink posted:- Snoke is pointless, so why have him. Why is he killed by a magic trick lol Star Wars has been about goofy rear end space magic for 40 years (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Liquid Drink posted:No offense but if you like this movie at all you are most likely braindead and jump up and down when Coke commercials come on. Coke makes good commercials, friend.
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Frijolero posted:Star Wars has been about goofy rear end space magic for 40 years Why have a bad guy then? If he can see so much, and is so powerful, how is he defeated so easily and so pointlessly, that scene is entirely pointless to anything in the plot. Really, really stupid. It wasn’t “space magic” it was turning a lightsaber on lol. Very bad. Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Liquid Drink posted:Why have a bad guy then? If he can see so much, and is so powerful, how is he defeated so easily and so pointlessly, that scene is entirely pointless to anything in the plot. Really, really stupid. It wasn’t “space magic” it was turning a lightsaber on lol. Very bad. Why are you watching things you hate you big idiot
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Liquid Drink posted:Why have a bad guy then? If he can see so much, and is so powerful, how is he defeated so easily and so pointlessly, that scene is entirely pointless to anything in the plot. Really, really stupid. It wasn’t “space magic” it was turning a lightsaber on lol. Very bad. i can 100% guarantee this poster thinks that episode 2 and 3 are good because they have long and involved battles (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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How come they didn't just hyperspeed scuttle a ship through the Death Star or Starkiller Base?
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I actually liked Star Wars until this one. The ending scene alone was one of the most insulting things I’ve ever seen in a movie. Disney ruined this franchise and this movie is absolutely worse than the prequels by a mile. I gained newfound respect for Lucas after seeing this trash heap.
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Serf posted:Overall this was a mess of a film. Paced extremely weirdly with the whole Finn/Rose storyline on Canto Bight feeling like an odd side story stitched onto the larger narrative. The core conceit of the First Order chasing down the last remaining Rebel ships while they run out of fuel just didn't work for me. It takes the issues with the passage of time that were in ESB and makes them even worse. As much as I love Canto Bight and the imagery of the rich and powerful profiting off the backs of the galactic conflict, it doesn't work in the movie and could have left out to bring the runtime down. I’m amazed that, despite having extensive reshoots and essentially 2 different directors, Rogue One was far more coherent than this film.
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Movie was a major disappointment. Putting aside the endless Star Wars goon criticism regardings canon/plausibility the biggest problem is I believe this film marks the first time we have seen full blown Marvelization of the Star Wars franchise. The quirky self-aware humor, the forced cameos, and the ending that was essentially a Marvel post credit sequence but tacked on before the credits play. The corporate managers played it a bit safer with TFA and RO but TLJ makes it clear that they have assumed control.
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There's a spoiler thread isn't there? What's the rules here? I came in just hoping to see some basic thumbs up/thumbs down comments and now I know about a major character's death. The movie literally just came out today.
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Apparently this movie have 59% audience on Rotten Tomatoes right now. I guess most of the complaints in this thread are legit.
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Liquid Drink posted:How come they didn't just hyperspeed scuttle a ship through the Death Star or Starkiller Base? The mass differential alone would ruin that plan. I mean, yeah, you'd carve a big chunk out...but one ship won't wreck a planet or moon-sized station. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Guys. *Looks around furtively* Guys. *Speaks so quietly you have to lean in to hear* Star Wars sucks.
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porfiria posted:Guys. *Turns around pensively like Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi* "I believe one thing only... It's time for the Star Wars to end."
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jivjov posted:The mass differential alone would ruin that plan. I mean, yeah, you'd carve a big chunk out...but one ship won't wreck a planet or moon-sized station. So a few ships autopilot lightspeed through the Death Star? I mean that’s literally a thing now lol. This movie is absolute unmitigated AIDS. Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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