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WeAreTheRomans posted:Not sure I even know what a Tánaiste does really Political/Media meat shield
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julian assflange posted:Political/Media meat shield More to the point I don't know why anyone would bother their hole, as it seems totally superfluous to eventually getting the big job WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Nov 30, 2017 15:05
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I wonder what Leo and Simon have to say about today’s happenings
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I'm only sort of half-following what's happening today but it sounds pretty messed up? Like May agreed some sort of deal, Arlene gave a press conference, the two of them spoke, then May went back in and said there'd be no deal. Something like that?
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Dec 4, 2017 18:34
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Not sure if May has said the last bit yet
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Dec 4, 2017 18:52
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Uhhhhhh so no hard border between either NI and Ireland, or the island of Ireland and GB. So I guess this means that any deal reached in the next Phases is going to have to honour that.
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Dec 8, 2017 10:09
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Seems like Leo did a good job on this, to be fair.
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Dec 8, 2017 10:12
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irlZaphod posted:Uhhhhhh so no hard border between either NI and Ireland, or the island of Ireland and GB. So I guess this means that any deal reached in the next Phases is going to have to honour that. Seems like magical thinking which will fall apart in the technical negotiations, imo. Still, at least it is confirmation for Tory idiotfuckers that Brexit means Brex-poo poo
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Dec 8, 2017 10:22
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Entropy238 posted:Seems like Leo did a good job on this, to be fair. Kinda looking down at you guys with envy from up here in the Black North. Can’t quite remember the t8me we could say something as simple as “Yeah, our government did a good job there.”
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Dec 8, 2017 10:45
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Wasn't this pretty much a promise from the Tories that there wouldn't be a hard border and not anything actually written down. Is there anything that will stop them from reneging on it tomorrow especially with them so reliant on Arlene.
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Dec 8, 2017 11:31
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Well it's a written agreement from the UK that they're not going to gently caress things up in the Trade Deal negotiations. Like, basically, from what I'm seeing, it's just going to end up with the UK remaining in the single market, except now they're paying for it and have no say in anything which happens in it.
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Dec 8, 2017 11:59
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Nilbop posted:Kinda looking down at you guys with envy from up here in the Black North. Can’t quite remember the t8me we could say something as simple as “Yeah, our government did a good job there.” Been a long time since we have been able to say it tbh
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Dec 8, 2017 14:03
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Good work by Leo I guess, have to grudgingly give him that. The UK is pretty much bound to a soft Brexit now, unless the swivel eyed loons stage a coup and go for a no-deal Brexit.
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Dec 8, 2017 14:19
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This David Davis fella is a great laugh
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Dec 11, 2017 08:52
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All this Brexit lark is shining a light on just how incompetent Senior figures in the Tory party really are.
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Dec 11, 2017 10:30
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irlZaphod posted:All this Brexit lark is shining a light on just how incompetent Senior figures in the Tory party really are. It was pretty obvious before this.
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Dec 11, 2017 11:18
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irlZaphod posted:All this Brexit lark is shining a light on just how incompetent Senior figures in the Tory party really are. And they've been running britain for 100s of years.
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Dec 11, 2017 11:48
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So do we think SF abstaining on the 12 week unrestricted access motion at the abortion committee will come back to hurt em?
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Dec 14, 2017 20:01
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Hopefully. Its pretty cowardly. It really exposes the divide between their historical, rural border county, conservative Catholic vote and their new, urban, working class socially liberal socialist aspirations.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:06
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Yeah hope so
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Blut posted:Hopefully. Its pretty cowardly. Official Sinn Fein/Provisional Sinn Fein split incoming
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How conservative are Northern Sinn Feiners? I always thought the really hard-line conservatives were the DUPers (or Unionists in general).
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Dec 16, 2017 18:29
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irlZaphod posted:How conservative are Northern Sinn Feiners? I always thought the really hard-line conservatives were the DUPers (or Unionists in general). When it comes to attitudes to abortion Unionist voters aren't significantly different in attitude to Nationalist voters, polling has usually shown that public opinion favours legalisation for cases for rape,incest and fatal foetal abnormality - there is a significant number of DUP voters who disagree with the blanket opposition to reform from the party inner circle who vote for them regardless as they are "good for Unionism". SF has traditionally erred on the side of caution and though they have never called themselves pro life are keen to remind voters they don't like abortions, a lot of SFs policy changes have been reactive when it became apparent public opinion supported it. The SDLP, who traditionally have a close link to the Catholic middle class, is officially pro life and has struggled with maintaining this to some degree while retaining their status as a centre left party - losing almost half their councillors in Belfast City Council after they tried to whip a vote in favour of a motion criticising protests outside abortion advice centres. SFs ambitions up North involve becoming the sole party of Catholic political representation and they have been cautious not to trod on the Churches toes to achieve that - their education policy that supports more desegregated education but still protects the interests of the Catholic maintained sector equally shows their attempts to keep traditionalists and radicals happy with mixed results. kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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For example regarding education there was a successful court challenge against the SF education minister's decision a few years back to close a rural Catholic school, parents had lobbied for the school to be granted official integrated status which would keep it open and expand the student body while the Catholic maintained schools body lobbied for it to be closed (a Catholic sector school has never been switched to an integrated one and its widely perceived they would prefer schools be closed than reduce the sector). The court struck down the closure order as being based on faulty information and SF has routinely been challenged for advancing education planning policies that protect the CMS sector enrolment at the expense of expanding integrated education
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Dec 17, 2017 01:05
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Having every major political party kowtowing to crazy religious extremists is just one more way the North must be terribly depressing to be politically active in as a young/middle class/left wing person. I really hope the Alliance picks up speed up there.
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I fall well short of middle class and I generally vote for Alliance but without much enthusiasm. It really does tend to be Holywood, darling  accents all round with them. I really wish there was a viable non-sectarian left wing party here
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Dec 17, 2017 14:53
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It's not like the Shinners are loving kneecapping people. Or even arguing on behalf of kneecapping people. On the balance of odds the content of their message involving kneecapping has never been lower. Edit: God damnit I didn't realize this comment was over a week old. In new content, I've had to essentially do the entire "Explain the Troubles" conversation at work 3 times this week after these documents came out. How about you all?
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Dec 31, 2017 06:51
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Awesome. https://twitter.com/_mattuna/status/948562546847600640
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Jan 3, 2018 15:51
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Feeling so red-pilled right now. I can't imagine this strategy being very effective for the wingnuts though. The Irish may frequently be credulous idiots, but we're not loving Americans.
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There's some National Party bozo on Twitter with about 100 followers replying to anyone who's telling Nazis to piss off. He literally pulled a "You're the real Nazis". https://twitter.com/EvanOHerlihyNP/status/948569668348006400
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Jan 3, 2018 16:18
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There's a few thousand weapons offences in Ireland per annum, but this one has really exercised the imaginations of twitter smoothbrains 
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Jan 3, 2018 16:28
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Well they'll jump on anything to further their agenda, they don't need logic or care about whether there's another motive. They certainly don't give a poo poo about the victims.
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/948187792261177344 https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/948190419233525760
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I'm a 33yo renter who will proudly never vote SF in my life
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Oh god I'm outside of the range of the 2nd poll. 
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irlZaphod posted:Oh god I'm outside of the range of the 2nd poll. There's people who can now legally go drinking who weren't alive in the 20th century. We are all stardust.
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Jan 3, 2018 18:08
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Who are the 14% of people in council housing voting for the current Thatcherite FG? Talk about voting against their own self interests.
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Jan 3, 2018 18:59
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jBrereton posted:clearly they are awaiting the day they can buy their own council house They'll probably be forcibly relocated to Leo's poor person gulags in Roscommon long before that.
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