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Endless Mike posted:I don't think Adam-X, the X-Treme could do that, dude. I forgot what Gabriel can do. Looking it up, he was a "past omega level" energy manipulator who could do nearly anything. I think the reality bending stuff I got from a youtube series called "Beyond Omega Level" which talks about super strong characters and talked about what he could theoretically do.
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The only thing theoretical about EMPEROR VULCAN! is that theoretically someday I guess he could be in a good comic. But it's so unlikely that it's not really worth trying.
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rantmo posted:Gambit and Adam X, the X-Treme. Gambit is a clone of sinister
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Dec 11, 2017 03:04
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Skwirl posted:That's not really what I'd use to introduce him to it. If you can find it for a reasonable price, the old 50 Years of X-Men disc is worth it. It only covers Uncanny, but it is all the Annuals and Giant Sized Issues up until the mid 00s. It's how I first read all the Claremont stuff originally, since as a kid I started reading just after that originally. My first issues were X-Force #2, X-Men #1, & Uncanny #281, and somehow I thought that was cool enough to make me want to keep on getting comics.
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Dec 11, 2017 03:06
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Is vulcan still in the space hole
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Synthbuttrange posted:Is vulcan still in the space hole Most importantly he's in a memory hole. Hopefully for good.
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X-O posted:Most importantly he's in a memory hole. Hopefully for good. I bet he shows up during Infinity WHATEVER.
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bobkatt013 posted:Gambit is a clone of sinister Well yeah, now.
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Dec 11, 2017 03:20
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My best Gambit memory is when I was playing Magic with a bunch of friends and one of them threw a bunch of basic land cards in another's face while yelling "MON AMI!"
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I hope Gabriel Summers gets introduced into the Marvel Cinematic Universe when Disney buys Fox or whatever. I'm still disappointed that Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire was such a long, poorly paced and boring storyline.
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Just read Astonishing #6, dunno how many weeks old it is by now. Loved it, though (and I know I risk ire here) I can't stand Del Mundo's art in comics. Makes for nice covers, would look great airbrushed onto a panel van, just doesn't do it for me in little panels that are supposed to convey motion. I'd almost say I like the art in Gen X better. Almost. So am I reading this correctly when I say the ending was (and I'll spoiler this in case you're like me and always behind; this is the kind of thing you should read firsthand) the "spirit" or whatever of Xavier taking over Fantomex's body with the latter's consent, basically overwriting him? I am... not sure how I feel about that. Fantomex was never my favourite character, but I feel like Xavier being dead was the kind of death that should have been allowed to stick, the X-Men no longer requiring their "creator" to guide them anymore. Also caught up on Jean Grey, and while it wasn't going in the direction I'd been hoping, it's still the best of the new solo series so I'm disappointed it's ending so soon. Plus, well, I'm one of the three card-carrying Hope Summers fans, and Hope was written exactly how she should have always been since the Cable series she was introduced in. If it was my call, I'd depower her boring power-mimic ability and make her whole thing "teenage girl raised by Cable, has the power of flying motorcycle, hacking into global spy networks, and Liefeldian firearms". And Quire is like the easiest character to gently caress up, or should I say one of the hardest characters to write. He should be an arrogant dickhead, but you have to keep him funny. I loved him in WatXM, and didn't in WatXM vol 2. Again, I think this Jean Grey series has a pretty good handle on him.
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X-O posted:The only thing theoretical about EMPEROR VULCAN! is that theoretically someday I guess he could be in a good comic. But it's so unlikely that it's not really worth trying. I liked Emperor Vulcan as a rat bastard villain who was like a character from Warhammer 40K who just stepped into the Marvel Universe. Then again I thought War of Kings was great which is a controversial opinion around these parts. The main part I missed from it was where Black Bolt and Vulcan got blown up by the mega Terrigensis bomb in the hole in the universe and how Black Bolt just came back later on because Jonathan Hickman needed him back. I would have loved it if they did the Transformers story with Ratchet and Megatron* only with BB and Vulcan instead. * = Basically Ratchet sacrificed himself by blowing up a ship that he and Megatron was on. Years later they come back as this merged monster. The Autobots are begging Optimus to put this monster out of its misery, which he refuses to do. He later finds out that they are capable of splitting Ratchet from Megatron, but only if they save them both as they were now molecularly linked. Cool stuff.
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Diet Poison posted:And Quire is like the easiest character to gently caress up, or should I say one of the hardest characters to write. He should be an arrogant dickhead, but you have to keep him funny. I loved him in WatXM, and didn't in WatXM vol 2. Again, I think this Jean Grey series has a pretty good handle on him. It seems like Quire is the platonic ideal of the sort of character Dennis Hopeless would prefer to be writing, so it works out.
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One of next year's X-Men omnibus collections is going to be "X-Men: Revolution by Chris Claremont" i.e. the soft reboot at the end of the 90s where Claremont returned to Uncanny and adjectiveless (and Wolverine's solo book) for about a year. The age of stuff like the Neo etc. Odd choice in my view but Claremont's name is obviously what will sell it.
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Wheat Loaf posted:One of next year's X-Men omnibus collections is going to be "X-Men: Revolution by Chris Claremont" i.e. the soft reboot at the end of the 90s where Claremont returned to Uncanny and adjectiveless (and Wolverine's solo book) for about a year. The age of stuff like the Neo etc. Odd choice in my view but Claremont's name is obviously what will sell it. As someone who loves X-Men specifically because of his first run but never read any of that, would it be worth getting? Or is it just his name selling it and it wasn't actually worth it? How was the art for that stuff?
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davebo posted:As someone who loves X-Men specifically because of his first run but never read any of that, would it be worth getting? Or is it just his name selling it and it wasn't actually worth it? How was the art for that stuff?
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Dec 14, 2017 17:15
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davebo posted:As someone who loves X-Men specifically because of his first run but never read any of that, would it be worth getting? Or is it just his name selling it and it wasn't actually worth it? How was the art for that stuff? It's not good at all
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Dec 14, 2017 17:16
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I'd much rather if they continued collecting his original run in omnis.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:19
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Yeah it's really not good, but at least it isn't as horrible as X-Treme.
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X-Treme is definitely bad but I think it starts out so promising.
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The start of X-treme was ok, and it had a good hook. It just...wasn't very good.
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So Disney just bought back the X-Men film rights, among other things. I guess we'll know whether or not all those rumors and conspiracy theories about the X-Men's place in Marvel were bullshit soon enough. Kind of hoping we get a 'No, MORE mutants!' out of it.
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I am willing to bet that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver go back to being Magnetos kids again.
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I always forget that Claremont is to blame for that whole Neo horseshit. It really was Claremont at his worst, long game planning to no actual end and a lovely nonsense story up to that part.
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The Question IRL posted:I am willing to bet that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver go back to being Magnetos kids again. Hey, it's always possible that that retcon was, as Marvel claimed at the time, done purely for creative reasons. Maybe Remender really is enough of a hack to think that the High Evolutionary origin was an improvement.
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I just realized Marvel got the rights back to Kang, The High evolutionary, And Mr Sinister and got really excited again 
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On the whole Scalert Witch thing(since I've been in a coma and forgot this was a thing), are Wiccan and Speed still mutants? Or can they just get around that with "They're reincarnations of a machine and not mutant, so idk"
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davebo posted:As someone who loves X-Men specifically because of his first run but never read any of that, would it be worth getting? Or is it just his name selling it and it wasn't actually worth it? How was the art for that stuff? I have vaguely nostalgic feelings towards it because that Claremont run and the Alan Davis run before it (which I honestly think is a lot better because Davis basically wrote the X-Men having Excalibur adventures where they had run-ins with Galactus and met mutant Skrulls who formed their own Skrull version of the X-Men) because those were the first X-Men comics I read. Probably not very good if I went back to them. I think the only really notable events in it are the deaths of Moira MacTaggart and Senator Kelly, which have actually managed to stick for the past 15 years.
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Um did they kill OML, Emma, Quire, the cuckoos, and young Jean this week?
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Dec 15, 2017 14:42
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Young Jean is super dead, which will last about a month. The others are just unconscious.
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BrianWilly posted:Young Jean is super dead, which will last about a month. The others are just unconscious. It sure as hell looked like OML git his head blown off with a red murasama bullet though.
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twistedmentat posted:It sure as hell looked like OML git his head blown off with a red murasama bullet though. I kind of doubt it's going to stick. "We killed [x]!" leading into a next issue revelation of "Oh, actually, [x] is still alive!" is pretty standard comic book drama.
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twistedmentat posted:It sure as hell looked like OML git his head blown off with a red murasama bullet though. He's apparently enjoying part one of a however many part adventure in Weapon X so I'm sure he'll be fine.
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Cabbit posted:I kind of doubt it's going to stick. "We killed [x]!" leading into a next issue revelation of "Oh, actually, [x] is still alive!" is pretty standard comic book drama. Yea, his head is completely gone, so I dunno. We'll see! Though my thought since they said Jean was coming back, my assumption has been that young Jean and Old Jean were going to merge, and I'm thinking that's exactly what's going to happen from this.
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Looking at the February solicits, Young Jean seems to still a part of X-Men Blue while Old Jean is running X-Men Red, so no I don't think they are merging. Which admittedly is an awfully cynical way to consider upcoming comic book plots, but enh.
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twistedmentat posted:It sure as hell looked like OML git his head blown off with a red murasama bullet though. Which comic was this in?
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Dec 16, 2017 06:10
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davebo posted:Which comic was this in? All new Wolverine.
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They need to merge the young characters with their older selves or send them back to their own timeline. I just want 1 version of each character in the main continuity especially now that they are going to start appearing in the MCU.
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